[Buff]Jakiro, THD

teng) · 01-19-2010, 05:50 PM

Some buff to THD to make him pickable compare to Rhasta, QOP, Puck etc

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Attack Range: 500~600 (from 400)
- Rhasta, Lion, CM, Lina, puck etc all has 600 attack range. Why a hero with shitty attack animation and turning rate deserve such a low attack range.
- Buff the attack range.

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Dual Breath

- Unchanged

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Ice Path

Old:
- Cooldown: 16/15/14/13
- AOE: 175

New:
- Cooldown: 17/15/13/11
- AOE: 175 to 200

- why an Impale which is not instant and deals no damage has such high CD?

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Liquid Fire

Old:
- 20/30/40/50% attack speed reduction

New:
- 30/40/50/60% attack speed reduction

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Macropyre
Old :
- 75 damage per second, 4 flame strikes, 200 AOE each
- 125 damage per second, 5 flame strikes, 200 AOE each
- 175 damage per second, 6 flame strikes, 200 AOE each
- Why pick Jakiro while there are QOP, Rhasta, Lion, Puck, Mirana around?

New:
- 75 damage per second, 3 flame strikes, 175+200+225 AOE
- 125 damage per second, 3 flame strikes, 200+225+250 AOE
- 175 damage per second, 3 flame strikes, 225+250+275 AOE

Unnamed_ · 01-19-2010, 06:12 PM

sure, why not?I haven't seen a thread about him in ages though, I thought he was OK.

n3cr0_fear · 01-19-2010, 06:17 PM

T-Up

Redeemed A.I. · 01-19-2010, 07:00 PM

Nice and effective way to buff him.T-up!

fremdlaender · 01-19-2010, 09:02 PM

T-Up on attack range buff, but an AoE buff for Ice Path and Macropyre is not what Jakiro needs.

Lifeburns · 01-19-2010, 09:16 PM

Turning IcePath a cone is most logical to make up for the 1.15 second before it takes effect at its maximum range. The range buff is a no brainer, it is that or a nice armor buff (+ 3.5~4 armor at least). T-Up for these two.

Macropyre change isn't needed imo.

Hero Hunter · 01-19-2010, 09:24 PM

Isn't Jakiro ok in 6.65 (and 6.66)? I only support a manacost reduction for Dual Breath.

Lifeburns · 01-19-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero Hunter

Isn't Jakiro ok in 6.65 (and 6.66)? I only support a manacost reduction for Dual Breath.

His problem is that he is just ok, but Lina, Lich, Lion, Rhasta, CM, all have something that make them better than Jakiro. And management is far from his actual problem.

kyokunchan · 01-19-2010, 10:58 PM

T-Up and hope to god it would happen lol. The remakes you gave him are nice and are right yo teh point. Love it.

Torchic Maniac · 01-19-2010, 11:39 PM

T-up for Icepath and Macropyre change.
T-down for Liquid Fire change. It's already powerful against towers.

Gheizen64 · 01-19-2010, 11:46 PM

Good changes on Macropyre and ice path, also pretty logical : )

I don't think Liquid fire need a buff, Jakiro isn't THAT bad that he need three buffs, just one or two should do.

Lord_Talron · 01-20-2010, 12:55 AM

tup only sensible remake ive seen for jaki

smilike · 01-20-2010, 02:27 AM

T-up for sure. his ult doesnt make any sens at the moment, so it can buff it a bit.

Dynes · 01-20-2010, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Torchic Maniac

T-up for Icepath and Macropyre change.
T-down for Liquid Fire change. It's already powerful against towers.

This

Jaxune · 01-20-2010, 11:23 AM

T-Up I find it hard to hit all with Macro so this would prove to be effective.

SUperPhat · 01-20-2010, 01:52 PM

The extra attack speed reduction on Liquid Fire is not needed. However the whole concept of a cone effect will make this hero better so its a good idea.

Krecix · 01-20-2010, 05:09 PM

More AS reduction isn't needed. Instead increase final icepath's AOE.
T-UP

Nerevarie · 01-20-2010, 05:16 PM

T-up Very good

alexjz · 01-21-2010, 05:43 AM

Love this buff dude,T-up

sweepberry · 01-27-2010, 12:42 AM

T-up for the changes for Ice path. Coned -shape inspired.
macropyre could be much more / same pulse with the old. I like only the cone shape style of it.

Yet I got other plans for Ice path. Would you check it? ^^
Liquid fire is enough said as powerful. Shiva + LF is great.
Its good to hear for his range buff, but I hear several times that the reason of his 400 range is for exchange for his godly spell skills, which he is known to be.

01-19-2010, 06:12 PM	#2
Unnamed_ Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,251	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD sure, why not?I haven't seen a thread about him in ages though, I thought he was OK.

01-19-2010, 06:17 PM	#3
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01-19-2010, 07:00 PM	#4
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01-19-2010, 09:24 PM	#7
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01-19-2010, 10:58 PM	#9
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01-19-2010, 11:39 PM	#10
Torchic Maniac Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 643 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD T-up for Icepath and Macropyre change. T-down for Liquid Fire change. It's already powerful against towers. __________________ Suggestion Review Status: CLOSED

01-19-2010, 11:46 PM	#11
Gheizen64 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,173	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD Good changes on Macropyre and ice path, also pretty logical : ) I don't think Liquid fire need a buff, Jakiro isn't THAT bad that he need three buffs, just one or two should do. __________________ Analysis of item usage in competitive 6.66, 6.67, 6.68, 6.69 and 6.71. Ongoing. Look my reorganization of the weapon shop for: • Organized shop layout (ala Sena the Accesorizer) • More unique +dmg items (BoA ,Broadswoard & Claymore) • Items and recipes are more logical and intuitive • Hammer is the old Javelin (the %chance fits naturaly in Basher + Mael) • Desolator is now made from swords and more!

01-20-2010, 12:55 AM	#12
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01-20-2010, 02:27 AM	#13
smilike Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Riga, Latvia Posts: 77	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD T-up for sure. his ult doesnt make any sens at the moment, so it can buff it a bit.

01-20-2010, 11:23 AM	#15
Jaxune Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Surprise Buttsecks Posts: 970	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD T-Up I find it hard to hit all with Macro so this would prove to be effective.

01-20-2010, 01:52 PM	#16
SUperPhat Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downstairs Posts: 778 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD The extra attack speed reduction on Liquid Fire is not needed. However the whole concept of a cone effect will make this hero better so its a good idea. __________________ Suggestions Portfolio Hello http://www.playdota.com/forums/blogs/superphat/ Hello

01-20-2010, 05:09 PM	#17
Krecix Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 71	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD More AS reduction isn't needed. Instead increase final icepath's AOE. T-UP __________________ Sorry, If i made any mistakes English isnt my native language.

01-20-2010, 05:16 PM	#18
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01-21-2010, 05:43 AM	#19
alexjz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 405	Re: [Buff]Jakiro, THD Love this buff dude,T-up