[IMPLEMENTED][Icon/Animation] Forked Lightning

[AmplifyDamage]

Originally Posted by Zirath

Wow, one lightning skill. I guess that makes me 100% wrong. Shamans are all about lightning. Its the only thing they do obviously. Get over yourself.

Do you really think Blizzard would make lore independent of the core of fantasy gaming?

Sorry but throwing the WoW card game and a number of pictures based on WoW at me doesn't say much else.

I proved my point that lightning is part of the shaman's theme (lightning shield / purge) and the Farseer's (chain lightning)

I was merely pointing out the facts and the Shadow SHAMAN fits the lightning controlling theme perfectly.

Your arguement however fails with no logic. First you say Farseers don't have a lightning spell, then you make fun of me for pointing out Chain lightning.
You spout nonsense bout "Core of Fantasy Gaming" hahahha don't make me laugh with your useless logic.
Fail much?

"hey guys look at my pissed colored lightning!! isn't it awesome? it just screams! voodoo magic!! lolol1111"

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by AmplifyDamage

I proved my point that lightning is part of the shaman's theme (lightning shield / purge) and the Farseer's (chain lightning)

I was merely pointing out the facts and the Shadow SHAMAN fits the lightning controlling theme perfectly.

Your arguement however fails with no logic. First you say Farseers don't have a lightning spell, then you make fun of me for pointing out Chain lightning.
You spout nonsense bout "Core of Fantasy Gaming" hahahha don't make me laugh with your useless logic.
Fail much?

"hey guys look at my pissed colored lightning!! isn't it awesome? it just screams! voodoo magic!! lolol1111"

You're point is that in the warcraft lore orc shamans tend to use lightning offensively. While this does fit the theme of a shaman, Trolls are not Orcs. They also sometimes worship Voodoo spirits instead of Elemental Spirits. This is also a Shamanistic belief. Keep in mind that DotA is not Warcraft. It is loosely based on Warcraft. It does not have to follow the strict rules.

I think you are not reading my writing carefully and filling in the blanks for me at your own convenience.

I'm sorry you don't like to check the aesthetics of a hero but that's not my problem.

[AXN]

Yup Farseer's do have control over lightning as well (chain lightning and their default projectile - lightning ball)

Though it wouldn't hurt to have Rhasta have that yellow looking lightning. I think its a good flavor for his color scheme and skill animation color.

[AmplifyDamage]

Warcraft = DotA
Dota is an alternate Universe with it's own unique time-line, but it's still in the world of warcraft.
Don't get me wrong i'd love to change Forked Lightning into something more fitting of a "voodoo shadowhunter/shaman".

But tacking on a different tint on a lightning animation isn't what's going to solve anything. All you got now is a yellow lightning.

I personally believe there is no problem, since shamans can harness the energies of the elements, but if i were to implement a change into Forked Lightning, i would definitely try to think of a voodoo themed attack.
Keep in mind he is a shaman, not a witch doctor and the lightning fits his theme and its very logical.

"Ancient Magic" just doesn't cut it for me, I'd rather keep it the same.

I hope this picture helps us brainstorm a more interesting and flavourful attack if we were to think of a new animation.

[Zirath]

The reason to change the lightning to Orange is to preserve the orange theme in Rhasta's skill. It could have just been easily change to a different lightning effect such as Healing Wave (actually this would look good). That part doesn't really matter. The point is to cosmetically improve Rhasta without changing the mechanics.

DotA deviates quite a bit from Warcraft. I don't think Thor and Mjolnir could arguable exist in the World of Warcraft.

[AmplifyDamage]

you're quite right zirath, your point is quite correct, i can't much argue with Thor or Mjollnor.

But that's beside the point, if the animation is lightning, might as well keep it lightning color. It's cosmetically appealing to have it normal.

"don't worry, be happy" - Rhasta.

[Zack1996]

First, please read the lore of SS:

Originally Posted by Lore

Once a gifted troll witch doctor, young Rhasta was well versed with the secrets of voodoo magic. When the war between the Sentinel and the Scourge began, Rhasta, then a Shadow Hunter, offered his allegiance to the Sentinels to vanquish the Scourge once and for all. While he was gifted as a witch doctor, Rhasta is a genius as a shadow hunter, exceeding his master by mastering the art of summoning multiple serpent wards, binding enemies for a short time and casting elemental lightning to several units.

Although the lore does mention lightning once, there are many more things that say "Rhasta is not lightning themed".

Also, I do realise that Voodoo looks really out of place, but I'll leave that for another suggestion or something

I know the name is lame and not the most epic, come up with one before you post a picture of a Shadow Hunter. You can't expect him to throw other projectiles when he already has a double sided blade on one hand -_-

@Zirath
Your suggestions (tinting of lightning + healing wave) are actually pretty damn sweet The lightning looks much more defined and Healing Wave as the lightning effect might look really good.

I really appreciate you trying your best to support this suggestion! I have reported the spam and hopefully, a mod would do something about those unrelated posts.
Once again, thanks Zirath

PS: Shadow Priest is really fun xD
PPS: There could also be the possibility of making Rhasta conjure a temporary serpent that attacks multiple units, but I doubt it would work/look very nice.

[Cp6uja]

@ Amplify Damage and Zirath

I think you should both leave this topic. You gave your opinion, you gave your vote. I don't want to warn any of you, but if I see only one more "I'm smarter than you" post, someone will get a Warn/Infraction!

[Nightmunnas]

I really like this! Rhasta has always been like this "warm" hero to me. And this has been kept away by the white chain lightning. Excellent! T-up!

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

@ Amplify Damage and Zirath

I think you should both leave this topic. You gave your opinion, you gave your vote. I don't want to warn any of you, but if I see only one more "I'm smarter than you" post, someone will get a Warn/Infraction!

I've already put my sword away (so to speak).

@Zack: Thanks. I'm actually taking the GREs today; if you want I can play with the World Editor and make a small test map for a new "Forked Lightning" effect sometime tomorrow.

[AmplifyDamage]

I wasn't looking for a fight, I was merely defending Icefrog and his work.
shamans can have a lightning spell, it's perfectly logical.

Originally Posted by Nightmunnas

I really like this! Rhasta has always been like this "warm" hero to me. And this has been kept away by the white chain lightning. Excellent! T-up!

In no way is Rhasta trying to be warm when he inflicts lightning upon his enemies.

He's trying to fry them to ashes Sith Lord style!

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by AmplifyDamage

I wasn't looking for a fight, I was merely defending Icefrog and his work.
shamans can have a lightning spell, it's perfectly logical.

In no way is Rhasta trying to be warm when he inflicts lightning upon his enemies.

Erm, that wasn't Icefrog. Guinsoo made Rhasta in 5.XX.

Rhasta doesn't have the very harsh killing feel that Zeus, Lion and Lina do. He kills you softly with his wards.

Just got done with GREs; I have a couple ideas for complete animations. Hopefully I'm done by Friday.

[AmplifyDamage]

Sorry i was merely defending Euls.
But in no way does Rhasta kill you softly.
Yes, his wards gives him damage over time while he shackles which may seem "soft", but that's why his nuke is an instant "ZAP!" to finish off his fleeing foes.

[Zack1996]

Originally Posted by AmplifyDamage

Sorry i was merely defending Euls.
But in no way does Rhasta kill you softly.
Yes, his wards gives him damage over time while he shackles which may seem "soft", but that's why his nuke is an instant "ZAP!" to finish off his fleeing foes.

Eul did not create Rhasta -_-
I still don't understand why you think lightning should be everywhere. Tell Icefrog to make Dagon have the Chain Lightning effect or something, since you love lightning.
Please, don't ignore what everyone else says just because you love lightning. Rhasta did not say "I learnt lightning since young!", he only says "I can call lightning". Its lame, don't you think?

Meh, if you want the Ward summoning Rhasta to become a Jedi/Sith, create your own map, and create a Jedi/Sith hero that uses loads of lightning.

Lightning, as Zirath kindly pointed out, is meant as a "super-chain-epic-3-second-ownage". Rhasta doesn't do this, he is more passive compared to other nukers IMO.

Irregardless, I can assure you that I will find something that will convince you, it just takes time.

[AmplifyDamage]

Originally Posted by Zack1996

Eul did not create Rhasta -_-
I still don't understand why you think lightning should be everywhere. Tell Icefrog to make Dagon have the Chain Lightning effect or something, since you love lightning.
Please, don't ignore what everyone else says just because you love lightning. Rhasta did not say "I learnt lightning since young!", he only says "I can call lightning". Its lame, don't you think?

Meh, if you want the Ward summoning Rhasta to become a Jedi/Sith, create your own map, and create a Jedi/Sith hero that uses loads of lightning.

Lightning, as Zirath kindly pointed out, is meant as a "super-chain-epic-3-second-ownage". Rhasta doesn't do this, he is more passive compared to other nukers IMO.

Irregardless, I can assure you that I will find something that will convince you, it just takes time.

Please stay on topic, and don't drag this argument into a stupid personal lightning debate.
Your whole post was useless, and i wish i never read it.


I only simply pointed out that Shaman can use lightning, a simple fact.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Shamanism_and_nature_worship

I'm no longer going to post in this worthless thread.

[virtviuz]

I cant really support this since it makes the voodoo icon out of place.

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by virtviuz

I cant really support this since it makes the voodoo icon out of place.

Well, Voodoo would change next as a result to fit the orange theme he's got running.

[EseQueL]

Well! I love it! T-up!
and youre right! shadow shaman casting lightning?????
lion too.....demon witch casting electrics and impales???

[Kanashimi]

Naah, i like him the way it is, fits more with rhasta.

[Eypioh]

t-up
now we need an orange frog icon!