[Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak

Infinite- · 02-04-2010, 03:35 PM

With the new Visage remake this hero is a really different hero to play, fresh and fun. There is only one thing that buggs me, why not make animated layers equal to the amount of layers he has from his skill "Gravekeepers cloak". This would give some eye candy to his otherwise "Effectless" skin.

Im not a mapmaker but i guess its codeable.

The idea itself is to add green circles around visage while gravekeepers cloak is in full strenght, and decrease the number of circles equal to the amount of bonuses.

Thoughts?

Necro · 02-04-2010, 03:52 PM

I like it... would fit the already transparent model. Waiting for some suggestions.

Black.Lotus · 02-04-2010, 03:57 PM

Add screenshots^^ or ask someone for that^^

Zangetsu2201 · 02-04-2010, 03:58 PM

Waiting for screenies, but I think this would be great!

Infinite- · 02-04-2010, 04:02 PM

As i mentioned above, im not that experienced with mapmaking and animation. Maybe someone could make one

?

Black.Lotus · 02-04-2010, 04:03 PM

Maybe ask someone before you post this^^

B.M.K. · 02-04-2010, 04:16 PM

T-up on idea

Infrisios · 02-04-2010, 04:52 PM

I got something on my mind there, but it's more complicated than most stuff I usually do.
Gonna try it tomorrow or something.

Infinite- · 02-04-2010, 05:03 PM

Thanks for your effort Infrisios

Infrisios · 02-04-2010, 05:41 PM

Well, I have not done anything yet

I'd also enter a partially new area.
I'd make it look like the anti magic shell from ladder's Banshees, but far more transparent, like a thin sphere around him.
Has some problems, though... for example it can't be done with a single model, each charge needs an own one.

Monsterlord · 02-04-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

I'd make it look like the anti magic shell from ladder's Banshees, but far more transparent, like a thin sphere around him.

This is exactly what I thought when I read th topic tbh.

Schremba · 02-04-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infrisios

Well, I have not done anything yet

I'd also enter a partially new area.
I'd make it look like the anti magic shell from ladder's Banshees, but far more transparent, like a thin sphere around him.
Has some problems, though... for example it can't be done with a single model, each charge needs an own one.

I played a bit with the Anti Magic Shell Model (also my first thought), but I don't think it looks that good. If you only use one unit with different transparencies (e.g. 10%, 40%, 70%, 100%, gone) you can't differ much how many layers there actually are, especially the 40% and 70%. Using multiple units all with 100% transparency isn't that good either, because the full layer looks too strong and there is still the problem that you can't differ second and third layer. I added screenshots of them below.

The best solution I found was using the Eye of Sargeras model, with 100% transparency, 0.65 size (fitting for a flying high of 80 and a scaling value of 1.00 for Visage) and 400%/200%/100%/50%/gone animation speed.

1. One unit, different transparencies. Hard to notice any difference, especially ingame. Second and third layer nearly look exactly. Bad on screenshot and ingame (imo!).

2. Multiple units per layer. It really looks too strong, easier too see what layer currently is active, but only if you see them at the same time. Hardly to notice ingame which one is currently active. Bad on screenshot and ingame (imo!).

3. Eye of Sargeras model, different animation speed. Looks best, since you can easily differ which layer is currently active. You see the difference better ingame. Not too flashy, has a nice effect when moving. looks average on screenshot and good ingame, especially when moving (imo!).

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaxeT

Testmap pliiz!

awesome

I wasn't thinking about a testmap, but if you ask... here is it.

Black.Lotus · 02-04-2010, 11:00 PM

I like your last effect!!

dominator02 · 02-05-2010, 04:56 AM

It is good thing that the animation of layer can be show if the layer is gone or it has recharged.

from Schremba's animation.

Infinite- · 02-05-2010, 06:15 AM

The last example with the eye of sargeras model looks awesome. But i am waiting for more examples, keep evaluating and see if this leads somewhere

Ez_Mystery · 02-06-2010, 02:48 AM

this is awesome

The Observer · 02-06-2010, 09:44 AM

i would want something that would like do a blur effect on him. every attack, he gets more transparent(meaning, weaker) which would fit the spell well IMO

Infrisios · 02-06-2010, 10:35 AM

I like the sargeras-based one most, too.

Raxet · 02-06-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schremba

3. Eye of Sargeras model, different animation speed. Looks best, since you can easily differ which layer is currently active. You see the difference better ingame. Not too flashy, has a nice effect when moving. looks average on screenshot and good ingame, especially when moving (imo!).

Testmap pliiz!

awesome

Edit: Thank you

Burndead · 02-06-2010, 05:33 PM

Nice one. All you do is to set higher speed as the level grows up. T-UP

02-04-2010, 03:35 PM	#1
Infinite- Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 55	[Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak With the new Visage remake this hero is a really different hero to play, fresh and fun. There is only one thing that buggs me, why not make animated layers equal to the amount of layers he has from his skill "Gravekeepers cloak". This would give some eye candy to his otherwise "Effectless" skin. Im not a mapmaker but i guess its codeable. The idea itself is to add green circles around visage while gravekeepers cloak is in full strenght, and decrease the number of circles equal to the amount of bonuses. Thoughts?

02-04-2010, 03:52 PM	#2
Necro Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,506	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak I like it... would fit the already transparent model. Waiting for some suggestions. __________________ Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain. Puck Aghanim's Effect \| Invoker Victory Animation \| Shapeshift Sound Against the Ropes on www.DotA-Allstars.com.

02-04-2010, 03:57 PM	#3
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Add screenshots^^ or ask someone for that^^ __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

02-04-2010, 03:58 PM	#4
Zangetsu2201 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,507 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Waiting for screenies, but I think this would be great!

02-04-2010, 04:02 PM	#5
Infinite- Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 55	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak As i mentioned above, im not that experienced with mapmaking and animation. Maybe someone could make one ?

02-04-2010, 04:03 PM	#6
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Maybe ask someone before you post this^^ __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

02-04-2010, 04:16 PM	#7
B.M.K. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mother Russia, Severodvinsk Posts: 698 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak T-up on idea

02-04-2010, 04:52 PM	#8
Infrisios Forum Staff Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,529 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak I got something on my mind there, but it's more complicated than most stuff I usually do. Gonna try it tomorrow or something. __________________ Mechanic Article - Clickability My suggestions RATATATATA When they come for me, I'll be sitting at my desk With a gun in my hand, wearing a bulletproof vest singing "My, my, my, how the time does fly, when you know you're going to die By the end of the night." And said hey - Streetlight Manifesto - Keasbey Nights

02-04-2010, 05:03 PM	#9
Infinite- Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 55	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Thanks for your effort Infrisios

02-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#10
Infrisios Forum Staff Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,529 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Well, I have not done anything yet I'd also enter a partially new area. I'd make it look like the anti magic shell from ladder's Banshees, but far more transparent, like a thin sphere around him. Has some problems, though... for example it can't be done with a single model, each charge needs an own one. __________________ Mechanic Article - Clickability My suggestions RATATATATA When they come for me, I'll be sitting at my desk With a gun in my hand, wearing a bulletproof vest singing "My, my, my, how the time does fly, when you know you're going to die By the end of the night." And said hey - Streetlight Manifesto - Keasbey Nights

02-04-2010, 11:00 PM	#13
Black.Lotus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The World Posts: 4,626 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak I like your last effect!! __________________ <MISSING> Don't like the Switch Mode? Join this group: <Click> <MISSING>

02-05-2010, 04:56 AM	#14
dominator02 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 7,762	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak It is good thing that the animation of layer can be show if the layer is gone or it has recharged. from Schremba's animation. __________________

02-05-2010, 06:15 AM	#15
Infinite- Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 55	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak The last example with the eye of sargeras model looks awesome. But i am waiting for more examples, keep evaluating and see if this leads somewhere __________________

02-06-2010, 02:48 AM	#16
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02-06-2010, 09:44 AM	#17
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02-06-2010, 10:35 AM	#18
Infrisios Forum Staff Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,529 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak I like the sargeras-based one most, too. __________________ Mechanic Article - Clickability My suggestions RATATATATA When they come for me, I'll be sitting at my desk With a gun in my hand, wearing a bulletproof vest singing "My, my, my, how the time does fly, when you know you're going to die By the end of the night." And said hey - Streetlight Manifesto - Keasbey Nights

02-06-2010, 05:33 PM	#20
Burndead Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria Posts: 1,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Cosmetic] Add layers for gravekeepers cloak Nice one. All you do is to set higher speed as the level grows up. T-UP __________________ My (implemented) suggestions