[NEUTRAL - STR]Zepplin - Goblin Shredder

[HeartAdriel]

UPDATES

v1.1 February 15, 2010

- Increased base INT from 16 to 18
- Improved movement speed from 300 to 305
- Skill Levels are now stored as variables instead of directly referenced basis
- Reduced Boomerang Assault range from 1600 to 800/900/1000/1100
- Rescaled Boomerang Assault mana cost from 140 to 95/110/125/140
- Rescaled Boomerang Assault cooldown from 12 seconds to 18/16/14/12 seconds
- Increased Boomerang Assault damage from 75/150/225/300 to 100/180/260/340
- Boomerang Assault now cut trees 175 AOE around the blade on its path
- Updated and fixed Boomerang Assault tooltip (both on skill and buff)
- Lowered Boomerang Assault blade height from 75 to 35
- Zepplin no longer pauses when the blade is coming back but ordered to be stopped until the blade goes back
- Rescaled Razor Fan mana cost from 120 to 90/105/120/135
- Increased Razor Fan cooldown from 10 seconds to 12 seconds
- Changed Ironskin name to Metal Fortify
- Added a special effect when Metal Fortify triggers
- Remade Goblin Shredder's Ulti (See on Hero)

Zepplin The Goblin Shredder



ATTRIBUTES
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Starting HP - 587
Starting Mana - 208
Strength[Primary] - 23 + 2.25
Agility - 14 + 1.5
Intelligence - 18 + 1.6

ADVANCED STATISTICS
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Affiliation : Neutral
Damage : 52 - 60
Armor : 2
Movespeed : 305
Attack Range : 100 (melee)
Attack Animation : 0.6/0.3
Cast Animation : 0.51/0.5
Base Attack Time : 1.7
Missile Speed : Instant
Sight Range : 1800/800

BACKGROUND STORY
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Rejected from the laboratory Zepplin used to work, he retained his own knowledge and created his own mechanism, the Shredder. It was designed for industrial use. But soon after, the war begun. Without knowing that the Shredder is capable of fightning, Zepplin was amazed and started making weapons for it. And so they joined the war. The Shredder is capable of dealing massive AOE assault, being a tank mechanism and a decent fighter with superb mechanical speed.

SKILLS
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(Icon from: BTNRazor - Warcraft 3 Icons)
(Model from: BladeGlovebySunchipsLeft - Warcraft 3 Models)
- Boomerang Assault

The Zepplin orders his Shredder to unleash its blade, going forward and then going back to the Shredder by making a parabola.

Dealing major damage to hit units. Upon going back, the Shredder will gain 10 bonus damage for each unit hit. Cap increases

per level. Lasts 10 seconds.

Level 1 - 100 damage, 20 max damage, 800 range
Level 2 - 180 damage, 40 max damage, 900 range
Level 3 - 260 damage, 60 max damage, 1000 range
Level 4 - 340 damage, 80 max damage, 1100 range
AOE - 145 AoE
Cast Range - 800/900/1000/1100
Mana Cost - 95/110/125/140
Cooldown - 18/16/14/12 seconds

(Icon From: BTNGlaiveStorm - Warcraft 3 Icons)
- Razor Fan

The Shredder spins wildly, unleashing razor blades around it. Deals minor damage for each set of blades which spawns every

0.25 seconds. Can be channeled for up to 5 seconds.

Level 1 - 7.5 damage, 575 AoE, 3 targets max
Level 2 - 11 damage, 600 AoE, 5 targets max
Level 3 - 14.5 damage, 625 AoE, 7 targets max
Level 4 - 18 damage, 650 AoE, 9 targets max
AOE - 575/600/625/650 AoE
Cast Range - N/A
Mana Cost - 90/105/120/135
Cooldown - 12 seconds

Notes:
- Damage type is pure
- Nearest targets are always chosen
- Fogged units are not hit regardless whether the unit is within the area or not

- Metal Fortify

Whenever the Shredder casts a spell, its armor increases additively. Additionally, it grants passive bonus armor. Bonus armor

lasts 10 seconds.

Level 1 - 2 passive armor bonus, 2 armor per spell
Level 2 - 3 passive armor bonus, 3 armor per spell
Level 3 - 4 passive armor bonus, 4 armor per spell
Level 3 - 5 passive armor bonus, 5 armor per spell

Passive

Notes:
- Only includes own spells (items are excluded)
- The bonus armor from spells can be removed by Purge
- Stacks up to 10 times

- Goblin Enginering

Gone from vast knowledge of engineering, the Zepplin can tweak the Shredder's system to unleash its full potential. When

activated, the Shredder's arsenals will be upgraded and nearby enemies will be dealt 20/35/50 DPS. Mechanical Heat won't

function due to excessive energy.

Boomerang Assault - Cap is increased by 20/30/40
Razor Fan - Regenerate 3/4/5 mana for each unleash

AoE - 200/300/400
Mana Cost - 50/75/100
Mana Drained Per Second - 5/7/9
Cooldown - 10 seconds

OTHER NOTES
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Am I supposed to input ITEMS and HEROES synergies? I guess not. With proper analization of skills and their respective roles and effects, you can easily conclude what is needed for The Goblin Shredder to dominate.

But in my opinion, heroes with disables or stun will do, because the Goblin Shredder can handle several situations with ease.

Items? Boost his attack power or speed. Why not give a Battle Fury for farming and regen? Or BKB to be unstoppable in Battle Mode? It's really up to you and to your preferences and role.

CONTACTS
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You may PM me directly here, post your suggestions and comments here. You may also PM me at heartadriel@yahoo.com or add me at facebook using that email address. Thank you in advanced for your comments.

[sparkletts]

nice hero...XD...
i like tis hero model since play TFT...
anywhere...tis hero's skill gt weakness...
a hero wif high armor or tide's kraken shell can make him very useless...

[HeartAdriel]

Thanks for the comment. But the Boomerang Assau;t is intended for Creep Farming and for gaining its added power, the bonus damage. But it has been covered by the Razor Fan's pure damage.

[NHP54]

Boomerang Assault
- What is the speed of the boomerang because 1,500 distance is quite far, so if the blade is slow, this will leave the hero too vulnerable.
- Can a target be hit more than once?
- Is the damage just physical or mixed? If it's just physical, then there is no need to mention the magic resistance because it is not applicable.

Razor Fan
- Pretty cool.

Ironskin
- Not bad, but I don't like the name.

Battle Mode
- This is OK because I see that the ideal thing is to use spells first and then turn the ultimate on.
- Again, the name is on the bad side. It is simple enough to match what the skill does, but it just sounds too generic.

[Rathman55]

Overall: At first glance this hero idea looks okay. A closer stat look reveals a few flaws that are easy to fix. The skills good, for the most part. The theme fits, You're new here by the looks of it. So I'll start a more in-depth review.

Boomerang Assault: I have almost no problems with this spell. I hope you realize 1500 units is a long distance. However the distance is justifiable. Perhaps the worse part of this spell is it would be easy for an enemy to avoid. But I bet you could get some pretty awesome Hero Kills using it perceptibly.

The biggest problem here is pretty easy to see. Your starting mana is 200. This spell costs 120. You don't gain much intellect too. Starting out with this spell would be weak for this hero. Maybe scale the mana cost?

Razor Fan: It's a creative AOE spell. I think it would be fun to use. It's mana cost is high too. Justifiable seeing it's an AOE. But 10 second cooldown? Seems a little low. I could see having to use it twice in two seconds, but sometimes it might seem a bit unfair. Just my thoughts.

IronSkin: It's boring. It would be cooler if you made it a self cast-able buff or something. But I guess it's all right as a passive. It does fit the hero.

Battlemode: It's simple. But that's not bad. Seeing most suggested ultimates are complicated these days.

Conclusion:
Skill Concepts 7/10
Numbers 7/10
Theme 10/10
My Relative Interest 8/10
Average: 8/10

My interest is high, mostly because I'd like to try some of these skills out. Your theme is good. But your numbers and skills need some tweaking.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate it if you could check out one of my heroes.

[HeartAdriel]

Okay. Now I got your point.
First, my question is: Have you tried the test map? The test map answers all of your questions.

Second, have you thought also of items? Because most of your reviews are item independent (mana cost).

Here are my replies.

- What is the speed of the boomerang because 1,500 distance is quite far, so if the blade is slow, this will leave the hero too vulnerable.
- Can a target be hit more than once?
- Is the damage just physical or mixed? If it's just physical, then there is no need to mention the magic resistance because it is not applicable.

- Sorry. Yes, it only hits a unit once. The animation when the blade comes back is that it creates a parabola opening downwards while going back
- Yeah, I've thought of that too, that 1500 distance is quite long. But the blade moves as fast as Rexxar's Wild Axes I guess.
- Why pointed out "Physical"? Just to clarify that it is "not" affected by magic immunity, magic resistance and magic block (pipe).
- For the Battle Mode, I've come up of a different concept and planning to remake it tomorrow (since I have no classes tomorrow)

The biggest problem here is pretty easy to see. Your starting mana is 200. This spell costs 120. You don't gain much intellect too. Starting out with this spell would be weak for this hero. Maybe scale the mana cost?

- Hmmm, imagine Sven, starting Mana is 182, and the mana cost of storm bolt is 140. Anyway, would you be using this skill at level 1 without any mana regeneration items (clarity, bottle)?

It's a creative AOE spell. I think it would be fun to use. It's mana cost is high too. Justifiable seeing it's an AOE. But 10 second cooldown? Seems a little low. I could see having to use it twice in two seconds, but sometimes it might seem a bit unfair. Just my thoughts.

- Yeah, high mana cost and low cooldown, just for scaling. Low cooldown to match the passive. Use twice? BTW, the spell is channeling

It's boring. It would be cooler if you made it a self cast-able buff or something. But I guess it's all right as a passive. It does fit the hero.

- I guess for a tank build, it would not be boring, but a pure BUFF. You just need mana

Just starting out? Right. First time to post, but I have already made a map (Glacier Bash). And the numbers are quite good. I'll reconsider your thoughts and construct a more balanced hero. But then again, thank you for your reviews. Appreciated

[Keenz.]

It's really cool. I tried the testmap. btw, pinoy ka?

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by kz16

It's really cool. I tried the testmap. btw, pinoy ka?

Yeah, how did you figure that out?

O really? That sounds good. Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.

Edit: Oh, I see, my siggy answers my question )

[l0r4k]

Imo Boomerang should deal damage twice(as it flies through and back) , but at lvl 4 about 225 (so its 550) and should !reduce armor! Would be more awesome then. Battle Mode could also reduce armor or just steal it like every attack you steal .5 armor from opponent oO. Suggested names- Battle Mode- Steel Rage (or something like that ^^), Ironskin- Tank's Soul (LOL)

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by l0r4k

Imo Boomerang should deal damage twice(as it flies through and back) , but at lvl 4 about 225 (so its 550) and should !reduce armor! Would be more awesome then. Battle Mode could also reduce armor or just steal it like every attack you steal .5 armor from opponent oO. Suggested names- Battle Mode- Steel Rage (or something like that ^^), Ironskin- Tank's Soul (LOL)

If you have seen the effect of Boomerang Assault in the test map, it makes a parabola when coming back, therefore it doesn't touch units on its come back. I've been on remaking the ulti, and renaming Ironskin. Thanks for the feedback.

[Kaar]

Does boomerang assault cut down trees (like rexars axes)? I think it would fit the theme.

Led Zeppelin could be a joke name ^^. Like "Gandaf" and "Mogul Khant Touch This".

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by KaaR

Does boomerang assault cut down trees (like rexars axes)? I think it would fit the theme.

Led Zeppelin could be a joke name ^^. Like "Gandaf" and "Mogul Khant Touch This".

Nope, it does not. Thanks for that, I'll apply that

[casczxc]

Nice one T-UP

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by casczxc

Nice one T-UP

Thanks for that. The update will be posted any while from now.

EDIT: Updated to Version 1.1!

E2: BUMP!

[HeartAdriel]

bump

[Zodiac]

How the hell is Skill 3 supposed to work if all his cooldowns are 10 seconds or above and the skill lasts 10 seconds?

and a 10x stack? umm, stacking at all is basically out of the question, 10x is like a hell no.

T-up for concept though.

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by Zodiac

How the hell is Skill 3 supposed to work if all his cooldowns are 10 seconds or above and the skill lasts 10 seconds?

and a 10x stack? umm, stacking at all is basically out of the question, 10x is like a hell no.

T-up for concept though.

Use what you call Logic.

Scene One:
You use Boomerang Assault, goes into cooldown for 12 seconds.

Scene Two:
After 8 seconds, you have cast Razor Fan, goes into cooldown for 12 seconds. After 4 seconds, the Boomerang Assault is once again ready. There are 6 seconds left for the buff.

Scene Three:
After 1 second, the Razor Fan is done. The Boomerang Assault is once again ready. After casting, turn on Goblin Engineering, leaving you +15 armor (at level 4).

I'll consider changing numbers out there, just waiting for an in-depth review. Thanks for the comment.

[ven_veng]

Tested it and T-up for the concept. Likes Boomerang Assault but it would be cooler if it spins like a boomerang in a 180% arc and hits everything in its path as it completes its cycle. Makes the skill more interesting.

[HeartAdriel]

Originally Posted by ven_veng

Tested it and T-up for the concept. Likes Boomerang Assault but it would be cooler if it spins like a boomerang in a 180% arc and hits everything in its path as it completes its cycle. Makes the skill more interesting.

Thanks for the comment though. I'm quite new in JASS programming and in this skill, I'm encountering problems when the blade goes back, as it won't follow the caster perfectly. So changing the skill into something like that would cause me so much problem, but thanks for the additional concept though. Thanks again

[HeartAdriel]

bump!