[IMPLEMENTED]-[Tweak] Sprout

GoD_Tyr · 02-07-2010, 08:35 PM

It`s a small suggestion to give existing sprout more room and flexibility.

As of now, Sprout can only be targeted on existent unit. It should be made in that way that you could target both ground&unit instead. Just small tweak, Trees should be able to grow anywhere (not just unit targeted), useful for blocking passages (choke points) and gives Furion some versatility that`s all.

Any thoughts?

BorisPeace- · 02-07-2010, 08:56 PM

T-Up.

Zangetsu2201 · 02-07-2010, 09:05 PM

Pros: more versatile and can be used to block paths.
Cons: With Furion's cast animation it would be easy to miss the spell (not catch anyone in the trees).

Nerevarie · 02-07-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zangetsu2201

Pros: more versatile and can be used to block paths.
Cons: With Furion's cast animation it would be easy to miss the spell (not catch anyone in the trees).

It would be unit targetable too. T-up

Quiesce · 02-07-2010, 09:21 PM

T-Up

0hSnap · 02-07-2010, 11:56 PM

I don't see why not. T-Up.

Lord_Talron · 02-08-2010, 12:07 AM

this would make it harder to catch people at the edge of his range like you can do now sometimes. make it also unit castable

GoD_Tyr · 02-08-2010, 03:19 AM

Ok thanks for the comments people. I edited that both ground&units allowed for spell targets.

NHP54 · 02-08-2010, 05:27 AM

It makes sense, so T-Up.

adelmagne · 02-08-2010, 09:10 AM

t-up on this. also might wanna add building targetability.

Zangetsu2201 · 02-08-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The-Shaman

It would be unit targetable too. T-up

Yeah, T-up for this.

dominator02 · 02-08-2010, 09:19 AM

,no need to explain why.

thekodobeast · 02-08-2010, 09:20 AM

On the fence with this one. On the one hand it would give Sprout a couple of extra tricks (blocking choke points, giving a decent amount of flight vision for scouting, etc.) but does he need it? Dunno. Holding vote for now.

adelmagne · 02-08-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thekodobeast

On the fence with this one. On the one hand it would give Sprout a couple of extra tricks (blocking choke points, giving a decent amount of flight vision for scouting, etc.) but does he need it? Dunno. Holding vote for now.

he doesn't have a real disable. afaik. even ensnare maybe better than sprout.

and most people only get a level of sprout first. then max other skills. then finally sprout.

thekodobeast · 02-08-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by adelmagne

he doesn't have a real disable. afaik. even ensnare maybe better than sprout.

and most people only get a level of sprout first. then max other skills. then finally sprout.

I don't see how this is relevant to this thread or my post, other than maybe saying he needs buffs.

NoThlnG · 02-08-2010, 12:14 PM

Err... how about this? If there's a unit inside the AoE, it will trap the unit. But if there's no unit inside the AoE, it will grows the tree "inlcuding" the middle area. Since it'll looks weird to have blank area when you didn't trap anyone

GoD_Tyr · 02-08-2010, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Err... how about this? If there's a unit inside the AoE, it will trap the unit. But if there's no unit inside the AoE, it will grows the tree "inlcuding" the middle area. Since it'll looks weird to have blank area when you didn't trap anyone

Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same way as you do. This is general concept of how it could be remade, but I`ll leave all the specific spell details and mechanic to Icefrog (off course, if this ever gets implemented).

godzbane · 02-08-2010, 12:47 PM

Wait! Give Tiny tree-tossing!

On-topic: Hmm, will make him seem imba in a way....instant TP + antijuke etc...
T-Up, that little bugger ain't got much anyway...

GoD_Tyr · 02-08-2010, 12:50 PM

Well, it`s buff actually, but not that great after all. Sprout is still countered by:

- quelling blade
- tangos
- Rexxar axes
- various other miscellaneous spells who destroy trees as passive effect

So it will make Furion a bit more picked, will produce much more potential strategies and generally increase the efficiency of the hero by indirectly buffing him.

teStud0 · 02-08-2010, 01:02 PM

Never really understood why Sprout can target units only..

t-up.

02-07-2010, 08:35 PM	#1
GoD_Tyr Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 3,666	[IMPLEMENTED]-[Tweak] Sprout It`s a small suggestion to give existing sprout more room and flexibility. As of now, Sprout can only be targeted on existent unit. It should be made in that way that you could target both ground&unit instead. Just small tweak, Trees should be able to grow anywhere (not just unit targeted), useful for blocking passages (choke points) and gives Furion some versatility that`s all. Any thoughts? __________________ ~ ~ ~ - Conan, what is best in life? - To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women! ~ ~ ~

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02-07-2010, 08:56 PM	#2
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02-07-2010, 09:05 PM	#3
Zangetsu2201 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,507 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Pros: more versatile and can be used to block paths. Cons: With Furion's cast animation it would be easy to miss the spell (not catch anyone in the trees).

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02-07-2010, 11:56 PM	#6
0hSnap Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 350	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout I don't see why not. T-Up.

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Lord_Talron Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Not-doing-hero-reviews-requests land. Been there a while. Posts: 5,468 Blog Entries: 20	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout this would make it harder to catch people at the edge of his range like you can do now sometimes. make it also unit castable __________________ Current Suggestions In Progress [BUFF] Mortred: allow butterfly\Storm Spirit Aghs\ Buff KotL\Buff Troll Battle Trance Buff/remake Medusa\Doom/neutral tweak\ Check out my IN PROGRESS suggestions!

02-08-2010, 03:19 AM	#8
GoD_Tyr Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 3,666	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Ok thanks for the comments people. I edited that both ground&units allowed for spell targets. __________________ ~ ~ ~ - Conan, what is best in life? - To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women! ~ ~ ~

02-08-2010, 05:27 AM	#9
NHP54 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pullman, Wash. Posts: 1,089	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout It makes sense, so T-Up. __________________ Butch T. Cougar thinks you should ... Check out my hero suggestion. Goliath the Guardian Golem

02-08-2010, 09:19 AM	#12
dominator02 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 7,762	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout ,no need to explain why. __________________

02-08-2010, 09:20 AM	#13
thekodobeast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 356	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout On the fence with this one. On the one hand it would give Sprout a couple of extra tricks (blocking choke points, giving a decent amount of flight vision for scouting, etc.) but does he need it? Dunno. Holding vote for now.

02-08-2010, 12:14 PM	#16
NoThlnG Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 14,371 Blog Entries: 8	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Err... how about this? If there's a unit inside the AoE, it will trap the unit. But if there's no unit inside the AoE, it will grows the tree "inlcuding" the middle area. Since it'll looks weird to have blank area when you didn't trap anyone __________________ Assassin's Creed Helpful Links Suggestions Epic Quotes . Credits to Lotus V Eater . . How to Get Your Suggestion Implemented Custom Model GIF Request Suggestion Assisstor's Thread Guides, Lists and Templates How to Become a Moderator . . Suggestion Portfolio My Ability Collections .

02-08-2010, 12:47 PM	#18
godzbane Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Durotar Posts: 1,903 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Wait! Give Tiny tree-tossing! On-topic: Hmm, will make him seem imba in a way....instant TP + antijuke etc... T-Up, that little bugger ain't got much anyway...

02-08-2010, 12:50 PM	#19
GoD_Tyr Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 3,666	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Well, it`s buff actually, but not that great after all. Sprout is still countered by: - quelling blade - tangos - Rexxar axes - various other miscellaneous spells who destroy trees as passive effect So it will make Furion a bit more picked, will produce much more potential strategies and generally increase the efficiency of the hero by indirectly buffing him. __________________ ~ ~ ~ - Conan, what is best in life? - To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women! ~ ~ ~

02-08-2010, 01:02 PM	#20
teStud0 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pearl of the Orient Posts: 2,523 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [TWEAK] Sprout Never really understood why Sprout can target units only.. t-up. __________________ *DotA player since 6.27b [2006]