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Old 03-03-2010, 07:32 PM   #1
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Who do you think is the best/most efficient/effective hero to jungle with, whether it be lvl-wise (Speed) or gank potential? Please give reasons to support your opinion.

I would have to say Enigma. He can wipe out medium creep camps from level one and jungle with amazing speed, provided he has sufficient mana. His ganks on the lane can easily result in double-kills, due to malefice and the high-damage eidelons. I think he is over-all the most effective jungle hero.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:39 PM   #2
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Who do you think is the best/most efficient/effective hero to jungle with, whether it be lvl-wise (Speed) or gank potential? Please give reasons to support your opinion.

I would have to say Enigma. He can wipe out medium creep camps from level one and jungle with amazing speed, provided he has sufficient mana. His ganks on the lane can easily result in double-kills, due to malefice and the high-damage eidelons. I think he is over-all the most effective jungle hero.
1. AoE Junglers


2. Summoner Junglers


3. Passive Junglers


Fuzzy is faster but also better in a lane

I'd say these guys

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Naix choke-point jungling is really nice, tho admittedly might fail sometimes depending on the creeps. Not to mention he can take out ancients at lvl 5.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:41 PM   #4
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Lycan works well too
Enchantress (because she can go gang with the stolen creep)
Chen (because he can go gang too)
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:42 PM   #5
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Naix is a good jungler, but I find him to be slightly on the slow side. He takes the creeps down to low hp very quickly, but finishing them off when feast is insignificant takes a bit longer than I like. Still, he's an average jungler IMO.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:47 PM   #6
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Also darkseer can jungle pretty well even from lvl 1
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:47 PM   #7
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The top jungler is without a doubt enigma, axe is jungles well if you manage to get enogh spins (I feel I have like 5% chance of spining instead of 17% when I play axe lol), lycan can jungle well with the wolfes, chen/enchant due to that skill that enchants creeps, also furion can jungle pretty well with trees.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:13 PM   #8
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#1: Enigma
#2: Enchantress
#3: Chen
#4: Troll

You should only jungle with these ones. All other ones are just too slow/better in lane.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:17 PM   #9
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Dudes, you forgot Bristleback.

Search Bristleback farming in Youtube and watch the Video. It works, also at6.66b !!!
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The top jungler is without a doubt enigma, axe is jungles well if you manage to get enogh spins (I feel I have like 5% chance of spining instead of 17% when I play axe lol), lycan can jungle well with the wolfes, chen/enchant due to that skill that enchants creeps, also furion can jungle pretty well with trees.
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I think overall that Enigma is the best jungler.
His farm is great if you buy a RoB because the mana regen fits perfectly with the manacost of the Eidolons. It does for me anyway.
He can initiate a gank with the stun and his summons deals surprisingly high damage if you gank someone with a stunner or the ganked one(s) is stupid enough to focus you.

No. 2 is IMO Lycan.
His wolves aren't really as effective to jungle with early as the Eidolons are, but they are still pretty decent in terms of ganking.
If there's anything worse than a Hook or a Arrow coming out of the jungle, it's an angry Lycan lvl 6 with 2 full-hp wolves rushing at you with max ms.

And No. 3 is Furion. His Treants are fantastic to jungle with, but Furion lacks a bit overall ganking potential. True, he can use Sprout, but if you're farming in forest, wouldn't you prefer to level Teleport so you could return to the fountain for free? If you don't, the enemy should have a Tango or a Woodcutter, that they aquired as soon as they saw that Furion is picked on the opposing team. I would prefer to have him in the lane so he could harass the opponents instead of doing selfish farming in the forest.

A shared 4th place goes to Axe and Naix.
They're unreliable and random in terms of jungling. 'Nuff said.
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Merlini style Beastmaster epic creep pulling jungling
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:50 PM   #12
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Brood - 13min relic pace
Enigma - slightly slower pace
Tinker - 13min BOT + Bottle lvl 8 max march

no pulls required
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:52 PM   #13
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I've never seen a tinker jungle lol. Seems kind of redundant when you can just dominate a lane and farm BoTs in 10 minutes.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:06 PM   #14
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Brood - 13min relic pace
Enigma - slightly slower pace
Tinker - 13min BOT + Bottle lvl 8 max march

no pulls required
I would like a replay of jungle Tinker.
Never seen it before.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:15 PM   #15
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Enigma by far is the best jungler. Naix's or Lycan come in a close second and Furion/Enchan come in a close third. But this is my opinion. Also Juggernaut can jungle quite well too. Just needs a basi ring and he can wipe out creep camps easily but will need many trips back to the fountain and need time to recover his mana.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:29 PM   #16
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Enigma is the best jungler IMO, he can take the big camp from lvl q with conversion, and can jungle fast with well managed mana, and the gank potential is a beauty, with malefice and eidolons

i also likes lycan as jungler, esp when he got his vlads, its gonna go smooth from there on, the gak potential is his max ms + invis wolf, and the wolves can also be used for rune scout

the next best jungler are naix,axe,chen,enchant,troll IMO
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:40 PM   #17
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Honestly, Lycan is a sub-standard jungler pre-vlads, and fairs much better in lane. At lvl 7 in lane, those invisible lvl 4 wolves can deal 200dmg to a low armor hero easily, then back off and do it again 20 seconds later. Its (almost) free damage on your enemy, and I recall making life hell for just about every INT/AGI hero in lane. That and easy last hitting with his aura, and an infallible escape skill at lvl 6 - He's better in lane.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:51 PM   #19
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chen + enigma both gank and level wise, ench is nice too.
axe is ok, but i would prefer to lane him with ranged disabler (cm, lion etc) rather than jungling.
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Brood - 13min relic pace
Enigma - slightly slower pace
Tinker - 13min BOT + Bottle lvl 8 max march

no pulls required
I would also like to see a Tinker jungle replay.

Anyways #1 is Enigma, as you get the exp+gold from just using conversion and probably one of the fastest junglers.

Furion / Lycan / Chen / Enchant / Sylla works well too imo, and doesn't require pulls.

Troll works but he requires some pulling until he gets his HoIW.

Also does anyone find that jungling Sentinel side is easier or just me?
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Jungling sent seems easier to me because there are three camps in a closer vicinity, but the scourge side seems "safer".
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:05 PM   #22
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#2: Enchantress
#3: Chen
best junglers, great gangers

#4: Furion
#5: Lycan
can jungle well, but their gangs arent that stronk


For "Cannot-do-shit-in-lane-and-thus-jungleing-heros", i d say:
#1 Troll
#2 Naix

They are pretty ok farmers, and once they reached level 5 or so its really easy to farm with, but those carry junglers usually have a hard time when the enemy wards/gangs the jungle.
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:07 PM   #23
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It's personal preference when jungling. I feel it's easier to jungle on Sent side and feel it's safer. I for some reason always get ganked constantly whenever I jungle on scourge side.

I love jungling with Lycan. Wolves can be used to scout for incase of ganks, and when he gets a Vlads, he can keep jungling then come out later and rape their team + push down towers fast.
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Troll works but he requires some pulling until he gets his HoIW.
He doesn't actually require pulls. Just need to do Tree Chop jungling and start off killing the easy camp first.
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1) Enigma
2) Chen
3) Furion
4) Enchantress
5) Lycan
6) Naix
Most of this hero can jungle nonstop with minimum consumable like clarity or item like ROB or stout shield.

and the rest is item dependant jungler like troll, jug, ursa and etc. (item dependant mean they need some item before they can start jungling without returning to fountain ie vlad and etc).
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He doesn't actually require pulls. Just need to do Tree Chop jungling and start off killing the easy camp first.
To me this takes too long to gain exp and gold. With pulling you can triple pull if successful and doesn't require the use of consumables while the creeps tank.
And especially at low levels, 1 harder camps gains you about 1 level.
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I would also like to see a Tinker jungle replay.

Anyways #1 is Enigma, as you get the exp+gold from just using conversion and probably one of the fastest junglers.

Furion / Lycan / Chen / Enchant / Sylla works well too imo, and doesn't require pulls.

Troll works but he requires some pulling until he gets his HoIW.

Also does anyone find that jungling Sentinel side is easier or just me?
I have proved in demonstration that Brood is faster than enigma, the only way enigma can compete is by maxing summons at 7 and even then it is barely enough to match brood's pace.

In the same way i demonstrated jungle tinker with a build that gives him presence in the game aside from skimpily farming for the first 13 min.
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I've never seen a tinker jungle lol. Seems kind of redundant when you can just dominate a lane and farm BoTs in 10 minutes.
The thing with that is you don't have any levels of March or Rearm. You still can't enter AFK-20 creeps/minute mode yet.
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I have proved in demonstration that Brood is faster than enigma, the only way enigma can compete is by maxing summons at 7 and even then it is barely enough to match brood's pace.

In the same way i demonstrated jungle tinker with a build that gives him presence in the game aside from skimpily farming for the first 13 min.

Thanks for this. I'll take a look at it once i get home.
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Tinker jungle is an interesting idea. If you get BoT in 13 minutes and continue to speed farm with an already maxed March you can come out with big items even faster, turning him from a semi-carry ganker into an unorthodox hard carry. Probably not worth it though I'd have to try that out...
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Enchantress (because she can go gang with the stolen creep)
After todays game of Nirvana vs SGC. Puppey jungle Ench, ganging and going double digit kills and only a single death. That first game was awesome.....close game until the end.
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I would also like to see a Tinker jungle replay.

Anyways #1 is Enigma, as you get the exp+gold from just using conversion and probably one of the fastest junglers.

Furion / Lycan / Chen / Enchant / Sylla works well too imo, and doesn't require pulls.

Troll works but he requires some pulling until he gets his HoIW.

Also does anyone find that jungling Sentinel side is easier or just me?
Troll can easily jungle through the use of choke points and a teammate's chicken without pulling.
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I can jungle with any hero, just need QB and tangoes to pull :P
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Troll can easily jungle through the use of choke points and a teammate's chicken without pulling.
Wouldn't this depend on what creeps spawn? And also that this tends to take more longer to kill the creeps imo. And that you'll need to spend some gold on more regen items.
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Eniggerma is probably the most reliable and effective in terms of levels and ganks, also he can take on medium camps straight away and requires little-no pulling.
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