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Old 08-22-2009, 08:10 AM   #1
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As you know radiance is one of the hardest item to buy in the game and hand of midas is one of the most useless item in the game. So I have an idea, why not combine them?

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Radiance
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+ =
1900 + 3800 = 5700 compared to
1350 + 3800 = 5150 (old)

Now adds
+30% attack speed
+60 damage
Burn Damage (passive)

AOE burn damage remains the same
OPTIONAL
+ + (recipe price not sure) =
1900 + 3800 + 500? = 6200
Basically, 550 gold for tranmute and 30% attack speed to be added on radiance.
Now it's much easier to get a radiance and midas is no longer useless!!
It also fit the theme - midas hand + sword = golden sword!

Many people has been arguing this item will become a must for farming hero, but it should be balanced by the fact that this item is mostly one per team since the burn damage don't stack.

Edit (4/3 wow its been so long): Sorry have to make sure it works. If this method doesn't work please tell me (I'm only 95% sure). Radiance can be turned on and off by checking the slot it's in. For example, I'll let radiance turn on if it's in slot 1 and off if it's in other slots.

I think the number problem can be solved by adjusting sacred relic since the only other item using relic is rapier. Ice Frog can reduce its damage to 40 and its price at the same time and then add a recipe for rapier.

Edit 2: slot 1 to 1,3,5

Edit 5/31: removed transmute to encourage more fighting and less nerf to chen.
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:30 AM   #2
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wow brilliant idea! numbers might be off but t-up for concept!
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:31 AM   #3
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I don't have time to write more but,

DO WANT!
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:32 AM   #4
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Reducing base damage gain +60 to +50 should do the trick otherwise great idea!
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:25 AM   #5
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Nice one you got there man, 100% support

But I believe it's +30 attack speed, not +30% attack speed
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:46 AM   #6
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

I think making Transmute just *slightly* stronger through that wouldn't hurt. Besides, it's more expensive now. I'd prefer that over IAS. Still,
T-up otherwise. For some reason, I've been thinking about it the same way.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:27 PM   #7
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Blue + Blue = GOLD!
AoE Transmute, YES YES.

might be too OP. transmute all Chen/Furion pets. LOL he's nothing.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:39 PM   #8
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might be too OP. transmute all Chen/Furion pets. LOL he's nothing.
Man, he has never said anything about AoE Transmute
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:36 PM   #9
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Nice idea! But the numbers should be lowered for balance reasons.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:21 PM   #10
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

Ill clarify, its is not aoe transmute. And I believe icefrog will fix the number problems.
@kanzakill I think +30 attack speed is +30% attack speed tho >.<
Thanks for the comments!
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:22 PM   #11
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@kanzakill I think +30 attack speed is +30% attack speed tho >.<
No no and no
Big difference
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:24 PM   #12
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Hehe, finally a nice suggestion =)
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:31 PM   #13
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

It actually is a very nice concept and does it job well of doing what each of these items already do, FARM. One of the best additions to Midas i have ever seen. It would actually make it 10x more viable as many heros greatly benefit from both (furion, chen, syllabear all have core midas). It only makes sense to help farmers farm more

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Old 08-22-2009, 02:33 PM   #14
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No no and no
Big difference
For DotA, there is no difference.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:50 PM   #15
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For DotA, there is no difference.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:01 PM   #16
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

actually its a big difference..

200 AS + 30% IAS = 260.
200 AS + 30 IAS = 230.

get it? or im wrong? but why did they change the +IAS% to +AS
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:02 PM   #17
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actually its a big difference..

200 AS + 30% IAS = 260.
200 AS + 30 IAS = 230.

get it?
If AS would work like that, but it doesn't.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:09 PM   #18
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

Well, Golden Gauntlet + Golden Sword = Golden Gauntlet holding a Golden Sword, that helps u get more Gold ...

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Old 08-22-2009, 03:37 PM   #19
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lower damage or add a recipe.
T-up. I love the part Hand of Midas touch the old Relic and turn it GOLDEN
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Old 08-22-2009, 05:34 PM   #20
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Default Re: [REMAKE] Radiance

Not sure, I "like" it, but it seems a little too imbalanced. It's just too good. Null vote.
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