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Old 03-05-2010, 11:03 AM   #1
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Default [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Death


Foreword: This is my last hero for now, and I'm serious with it. I've thought this hero for a long time, so please, I need your help to complete this hero, and I also need some genuinely honest feedback about my suggestion. I'm begging on you guys and sorry for my bad English.


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05/03/2010 :
- make this thread....

06/03/2010 :
-add the hero model....
-remake the 2nd and 3rd skill effect....

09/04/2010 :
-change the hero model....

21/04/2010 :
-reduce the 2nd skill's damage....
-remove the 2nd skill's ministuns effect....
-give the 2nd skill stealing int effect....
-add the hero icon....





Apostle of Death
Vetalas LaVey

Background Story: BackgroundStory

Strength - 16 + [2]
Agility - 11 + [1]
Intelligence - 26 + [3,2]




Affiliation:Scourge
Damage:43-59
Armor:1
Movespeed:290
Starting HP/MP:454/338
Attack Range:600

Imprecation Soul - (Active)
____________________Vetalas release the cursed soul to his enemy. This soul will give some damage to the target and release its curse to the area nearby. This curse will burn some mana and dealing some damage in the end of duration.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
114020 sec6002503 secDeals 40 damage to the target and applies Mana Combustion to the enemies in the area for 15mana/sec. Dealing damage to the target equal to the amount of mana burned in the end of duration. Push Vetalas back for 50 range after cast.
215519 sec6002503 secDeals 80 damage to the target and applies Mana Combustion to the enemies in the area for 30mana/sec. Dealing damage to the target equal to the amount of mana burned in the end of duration. Push Vetalas back for 100 range after cast.
317018 sec6002503 secDeals 120 damage to the target and applies Mana Combustion to the enemies in the area for 45mana/sec. Dealing damage to the target equal to the amount of mana burned in the end of duration. Push Vetalas back for 150 range after cast.
418517 sec6002503 secDeals 160 damage to the target and applies Mana Combustion to the enemies in the area for 60mana/sec. Dealing damage to the target equal to the amount of mana burned in the end of duration. Push Vetalas back for 200 range after cast.

Notes:
  • Damage type: pure(for the initial damage) / magical(for the Mana Combustion)
  • Damage dealt by Mana Combustion is proportional to mana lost.
  • The AoE targeting reticle must be centered over an enemy unit.
  • The projectile can't be dodged by blinking or moving away.
  • The target will be effected by Mana Combustion.
  • The enemies near the target will not get the inital damage, but they'll be effected by Mana Combustion.

Eye of Providence - (Active)
____________________Vetalas eyes have a very strong death essence. He can make the enemy down by looking on his eyes. The pain that his enemy get will increase slowly.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
110015 sec600-3 secApplies 1 pain per sec(total 3 pain). Steal 2 point of the target's intelligence for each pain. The pain is starting at 10 damage and increasing by 10 for each pain.
212515 sec600-4 secApplies 1 pain per sec(total 4 pain). Steal 2 point of the target's intelligence for each pain. The pain is starting at 10 damage and increasing by 10 for each pain.
315015 sec600-5 secApplies 1 pain per sec(total 5 pain). Steal 2 point of the target's intelligence for each pain. The pain is starting at 10 damage and increasing by 10 for each pain.
417515 sec600-6 secApplies 1 pain per sec(total 6 pain). Steal 2 point of the target's intelligence for each pain. The pain is starting at 10 damage and increasing by 10 for each pain.

Notes:
  • Damage type: magical
  • Examples for the pain. The 1st pain will deal 10 damage, then the 2nd will deal 20 damage, and the 3rd will deal 30 damage. The damage is increasing for each pain.
  • Intelligence is restored to the target hero after 30 sec.

Bible of Distress - (Passive)
____________________As the Apostle, Vetalas have a bible that contains a great power. With the powers of the bible, Vetalas can regain the wandering soul and reflect some pain to the enemies around him.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1---1000-Regains 6 hp for every killed units around him. Causes 4% of damage taken by Vetalas to be reflected onto all enemies mana.
2---1000-Regains 12 hp for every killed units around him. Causes 8% of damage taken by Vetalas to be reflected onto all enemies mana.
3---1000-Regains 18 hp for every killed units around him. Causes 12% of damage taken by Vetalas to be reflected onto all enemies mana.
4---1000-Regains 24 hp for every killed units around him. Causes 16% of damage taken by Vetalas to be reflected onto all enemies mana.

Notes:
  • The reflected damage will burn the enemies mana.
  • Damage type: normal
  • Deals 0.6 damage per point of mana burnt.
  • Reflected damage is not felt by Vetalas, effectively reducing the incoming damage.

Demonic Crucifixion - (Active)
____________________Vetalas love to curse his enemy in pain. With his soul and some of his power, he can manipulate the pain that his enemy feel. Deal some damage that depend on the damages that his enemy get.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1100100 sec850-10 secPays 9% of Vetalas max hp. Stops the target's hp regeneration. Automatically, deals 135 damage whenever his target receives 300 damage.
220090 sec900-10 secPays 18% of Vetalas max hp. Stops the target's hp regeneration. Automatically, deals 185 damage whenever his target receives 300 damage.
330080 sec950-10 secPays 27% of Vetalas max hp. Stops the target's hp regeneration. Automatically, deals 235 damage whenever his target receives 300 damage.

Notes:
  • Damage type: pure
  • Demonic Punishment interrupts channeling spells and items.
  • This skill works on magic immune units.
  • Vetalas cannot kill himself with this skill.
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

need suggestion for the model....
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:37 PM   #3
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

I have no idea what model could this hero use, yet...

1st skill needs to have the numbers lowered a bit.
Lv4 - 160 damage + 180 manaburn (+180 damage) looks like a really powerful harass.

2nd skill... I don't get what do You mean by "pains" ;/.

3rd skill reminds me of old Visage's skill + current Nerco's -HP aura.
I don't like the aura part...

Ultimate is not bad but scales in a weird way.

This hero seriously needs much work.
Skills need a fix and icons are quite bad...
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:00 PM   #4
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

I think his icon can be this for now just
I hope I helped you
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:07 PM   #5
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

i think this one fits

hope u like it
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:20 PM   #6
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

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I have no idea what model could this hero use, yet...

1st skill needs to have the numbers lowered a bit.
Lv4 - 160 damage + 180 manaburn (+180 damage) looks like a really powerful harass.

2nd skill... I don't get what do You mean by "pains" ;/.

3rd skill reminds me of old Visage's skill + current Nerco's -HP aura.
I don't like the aura part...

Ultimate is not bad but scales in a weird way.

This hero seriously needs much work.
Skills need a fix and icons are quite bad...
thaks for the review....
ohh, this hero is very bad though....

Skill 1 - yeah, but Anub's mana burn is better, but it's just singel-targetted mana burn.....

Skill 2 - hmm, you can say it stacks.... damage is increaseing per stack....

Skill 3 - uhh ohh.... okay....

Skill 4 - that's not wierd....

Icon - ohhh, I thought it was good....


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I think his icon can be this for now just
I hope I helped you
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i think this one fits

hope u like it
thanks, but I need to think about those models....
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:39 PM   #7
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I have it I think +
I hope u like it
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:47 PM   #8
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I have it I think +
I hope u like it
thanks....
yes it's a good model....
but it's scourge creep though....
I think I'll add it for now....
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:54 PM   #9
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

i didnt post this model because its scourge creeps and it also can be necrolyte's model, many ppl dont use mountain king model because of zeus and that other nightelf hero cause of leshrac
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

You removed the only good looking icon from the set...
For the model... I can't think of anything good... But if you change story, skill description and icons a bit, you could use those mechanical Demon Siege Machines.
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units\creeps\InfernalCannonFlame\InfernalCannonFlame.mdl
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units\creeps\InfernalCannonCannon\InfernalCannonCannon.mdl
They use those icons:




The lower one could also be used for a skill.
Those models would add some fresh air for being Mechanical.
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:25 AM   #12
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

Here are the review..

Skill 1: A great Mana and HP reduction!
Skill 2: This skill is only somewhat like Enigma's Malefice, but the damage is very great. At max : 3x105 = 315 damage!
Decrease this!
Skill 3: Rotund'jere Sadist for HP + Heartstopper Aura. But please give clarification for how long the HP degen is..
Ultimate: Already nice..

Overall: This hero is just TOO powerful..
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i didnt post this model because its scourge creeps and it also can be necrolyte's model, many ppl dont use mountain king model because of zeus and that other nightelf hero cause of leshrac
yes you're right....
I've been thinking that....
I'll use the acolyte model for now....
do you have the hero icon...?
thanks....


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You removed the only good looking icon from the set...
For the model... I can't think of anything good... But if you change story, skill description and icons a bit, you could use those mechanical Demon Siege Machines.
Code:
units\creeps\InfernalCannonFlame\InfernalCannonFlame.mdl
Code:
units\creeps\InfernalCannonCannon\InfernalCannonCannon.mdl
They use those icons:




The lower one could also be used for a skill.
Those models would add some fresh air for being Mechanical.
my bad....
I thought that icon is bad, so I changed it....
I don't understand what the other people feel....

about the machine model....
nice model, but it'll destroy my dream.... :P
I'll think about it again....


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Here are the review..

Skill 1: A great Mana and HP reduction!
Skill 2: This skill is only somewhat like Enigma's Malefice, but the damage is very great. At max : 3x105 = 315 damage!
Decrease this!
Skill 3: Rotund'jere Sadist for HP + Heartstopper Aura. But please give clarification for how long the HP degen is..
Ultimate: Already nice..

Overall: This hero is just TOO powerful..
Skill 1 - yes, harassing skill....

Skill 2 - I think I'll change the ministuns effect.... too many for it....

Skill 3 - it's a passive aura, so it will decrease his hp regen as long as he stay on the aura radius....

Skill 4 - yess.... I like it too....
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hope this helps ur hero =)
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Old 03-06-2010, 06:25 AM   #15
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necrolyte's model ISN'T model of that I posted, necrolyte's model is Kel'thuzat in ghost form
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Default Re: [INT-SCOURGE]Vetalas LaVey, the Apostle of Dea

i know, i said that many people dont post mountain king cause of zeus, or cenarius cause of leshrac, so i'm saying to not use the necromancer because of necrolyte.
got it?
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yes, now yes
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you can use this , , I hope I helped again
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hope this helps ur hero =)
thanks dude....

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you can use this , , I hope I helped again
you know, I wanted to use that model yesterday....
but, it's 'green', and the icon is 'purple'....
it doesn't fit....
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Icons recolored from hon am i right? I dunno but ultimate was nice, others was too simple.
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