[ITEM]Biggoron's Axe

The Observer · 08-22-2009, 08:51 PM

Biggoron's Axe

(Taken from WoWWiki's icon list)

A humongous axe so big that enemy attacks gets blocked when you're attacking them. Gives +10 agi, +25 damage, Damage Block(Passive) and Parry(Passive).

Damage Block:
Gives a 100% chance to block 30 damage if wielder is melee, 100% chance to block 15 damage if wielder is ranged.

Parry:
For every attack you do, you get a 8% chance for melee and 6% chance for ranged to fully block a physical damage. Stacks for 5 times. Buff is removed when you change targets and if you stop attacking your target for 8 seconds.

Recipe:

= 550

= 1600

= 500

(Turns Into)

= 2650

Shatterman · 08-22-2009, 08:59 PM

i dont like item suggestions in which effects of components dissappear in general.
thats why guinsoo and manta recipes were changed btw

The Observer · 08-22-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_Frightening

i dont like item suggestions in which effects of components dissappear in general.
thats why guinsoo and manta recipes were changed btw

What effect of this item's component disappeared?

Repeats · 08-22-2009, 10:01 PM

poor mans shield has a 2 block clauses. 100% to block 20 damage from melee heros and 10 from ranged + 60% chance to block 20 non hero melee damage and 10 non hero ranged damage.

By using poor mans shield you lose the 100% chance to reduce hero damage.

crazy sheep · 08-22-2009, 11:54 PM

Usually combining items gives better stats than the original item. [eg: Stout -> Vanguard] As others have pointed out, by using 2x Poor Man's Shield, you're indirectly nerfing them.

And the item buildup doesn't match the theme IMO. How lava protects is confusing.

The Observer · 08-23-2009, 02:52 AM

I was pointing out on the Sauron's Axe = Sauron's Eye lookalike.

Since Sauron's eye was protecting i don't know what, this one protects the wielder

ok, made it 100% now.

CynyC · 08-23-2009, 04:38 AM

LotR isnt DotA, as Anime isnt DotA, as Other things aren' DotA as...

Also, Sauren was like wolololo epic splash dmg pwnage. And he used a mace

Conceptually though, not bad. Mixing Damage with Damage Block. I might actually use this in DotA as an item since i'm fond of the Poor Man's.

Change the theme, please

The Observer · 08-23-2009, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CynyC

LotR isnt DotA, as Anime isnt DotA, as Other things aren' DotA as...

Also, Sauren was like wolololo epic splash dmg pwnage. And he used a mace

Conceptually though, not bad. Mixing Damage with Damage Block. I might actually use this in DotA as an item since i'm fond of the Poor Man's.

Change the theme, please

Will change it later.

NoThlnG · 08-24-2009, 04:01 AM

LOL... Parrying was my idea --a

Anyway I like your idea of parrying. It's better than mine. T-Up

The Observer · 08-24-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repeats

poor mans shield has a 2 block clauses. 100% to block 20 damage from melee heros and 10 from ranged + 60% chance to block 20 non hero melee damage and 10 non hero ranged damage.

By using poor mans shield you lose the 100% chance to reduce hero damage.

That's actually 100% chance to block 30 damage to all enemies.

king_james · 08-24-2009, 12:16 PM

Why are there 2 PMS's? I suggest 1 instead.

Parry seems ok, but as soon as the unit target dies, it resets again, haha.

Overall, i like the item, its seems reasonable to get for tank heroes.

The Observer · 08-24-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_james

Why are there 2 PMS's? I suggest 1 instead.

Parry seems ok, but as soon as the unit target dies, it resets again, haha.

Overall, i like the item, its seems reasonable to get for tank heroes.

Why 2? For the price balance of course. And also, no one actually buys 2 poor man shields(or i haven't seen anyone do it yet).

Gazar- · 08-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Nice item idea in my eyes.

Quote:

Why 2? For the price balance of course. And also, no one actually buys 2 poor man shields(or i haven't seen anyone do it yet).

You know that two PMS will not stack? 100% + 100% are still 100%. Two PMS will not trigger both at one time I think.

Reduce it to one PMS. Also add to the description of "Parry" that blocking a attack will reduce the chance again to 8% for melee and 6% for ranged. That will make it balanced considering the lesser price.

The Observer · 08-24-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazar-

Nice item idea in my eyes.

You know that two PMS will not stack? 100% + 100% are still 100%. Two PMS will not trigger both at one time I think.

Reduce it to one PMS. Also add to the description of "Parry" that blocking a attack will reduce the chance again to 8% for melee and 6% for ranged. That will make it balanced considering the lesser price.

I'll just make it that if you don't attack your former target for 8 seconds the buff is removed.

uhhmm, i'll just add a recipe scroll.

there, but +2 agi is removed.

MurazorOFAngmar · 09-12-2009, 04:45 PM

I like the concept of parrying a lot, so I'll T-up this. Nice build up too.

The Observer · 09-20-2009, 08:05 AM

thanks for the support!

Cp6uja · 12-07-2009, 10:52 PM

I like the item, but I have a feeling that it should be much stronger. I mean, now, its just a regular upgrade.

Give it some stronger effects, IMO.

The Observer · 12-14-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

I like the item, but I have a feeling that it should be much stronger. I mean, now, its just a regular upgrade.

Give it some stronger effects, IMO.

Well it's strong for DPS heroes. 40% chance to fully block a physical damage is good, no?

The Observer · 08-23-2010, 03:06 PM

bump

Lotus V Eater · 08-23-2010, 03:10 PM

i think an axe is not a suitable to be used as one of the defensive item......XD i think you might wanna reconsider to find a suitable armor icon for this suggestion....

08-22-2009, 08:51 PM	#1
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,055 Blog Entries: 1	[ITEM]Biggoron's Axe Biggoron's Axe (Taken from WoWWiki's icon list) A humongous axe so big that enemy attacks gets blocked when you're attacking them. Gives +10 agi, +25 damage, Damage Block(Passive) and Parry(Passive). Damage Block: Gives a 100% chance to block 30 damage if wielder is melee, 100% chance to block 15 damage if wielder is ranged. Parry: For every attack you do, you get a 8% chance for melee and 6% chance for ranged to fully block a physical damage. Stacks for 5 times. Buff is removed when you change targets and if you stop attacking your target for 8 seconds. Recipe: = 550 = 1600 = 500 (Turns Into) = 2650 __________________ AISJHDBNAJSLNDOASADJNDERTERGDSGF VCIXJUBWQOQIEJROIPPEOEDFS OWEJRNVHCBVOJEFNXKDLSRETRDVXCBDFGDFGS LNCVBWUEQPWEOPEUGNSDJQSFDG XZJSRTHEOBSERVERWEOSD QWOEIQWEJRNZXMSKDFPQWDRTYTITSF KXMVQOWERIWETPOQWMVKSWADSFWEVGFH CLVKMNMQWPEIEREWRZXCFSSF QWEMWSIDKFMZZXCMALSDKGGVASDFASFBVCX

Last edited by The Observer; 08-24-2009 at 03:34 PM. Reason: Changed item name and icon.

08-22-2009, 08:59 PM	#2
Shatterman Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,216	Re: [ITEM]Sauron's Axe i dont like item suggestions in which effects of components dissappear in general. thats why guinsoo and manta recipes were changed btw

08-22-2009, 10:01 PM	#4
Repeats Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 493	Re: [ITEM]Sauron's Axe poor mans shield has a 2 block clauses. 100% to block 20 damage from melee heros and 10 from ranged + 60% chance to block 20 non hero melee damage and 10 non hero ranged damage. By using poor mans shield you lose the 100% chance to reduce hero damage. __________________ - Medivh, The Spirit Keeper - Eldritch, the Blood Orc -[Remake] Unstable Concoction - Zephyr, The Wind Tempest

08-22-2009, 11:54 PM	#5
crazy sheep Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the Suggestions forum Posts: 558 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [ITEM]Sauron's Axe Usually combining items gives better stats than the original item. [eg: Stout -> Vanguard] As others have pointed out, by using 2x Poor Man's Shield, you're indirectly nerfing them. And the item buildup doesn't match the theme IMO. How lava protects is confusing. __________________ Hero/Item suggestions, they're where I stay nowadays. Don't PM me if you want stories/reviews for your hero/item, currently busy IRL. Click here if you like: DBSK/Super Junior/SS501/SNSD/any other Korean artistes Suggestions needing comments so far: Gauntlets of Doom \| Blade of the Elders \| Battle Axe My fanfic: Legend of the Soul Linker Two guides under construction: Orb Walking miniguide and Hero Balance miniguide.

08-23-2009, 02:52 AM	#6
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,055 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM]Sauron's Axe I was pointing out on the Sauron's Axe = Sauron's Eye lookalike. Since Sauron's eye was protecting i don't know what, this one protects the wielder ok, made it 100% now. __________________ AISJHDBNAJSLNDOASADJNDERTERGDSGF VCIXJUBWQOQIEJROIPPEOEDFS OWEJRNVHCBVOJEFNXKDLSRETRDVXCBDFGDFGS LNCVBWUEQPWEOPEUGNSDJQSFDG XZJSRTHEOBSERVERWEOSD QWOEIQWEJRNZXMSKDFPQWDRTYTITSF KXMVQOWERIWETPOQWMVKSWADSFWEVGFH CLVKMNMQWPEIEREWRZXCFSSF QWEMWSIDKFMZZXCMALSDKGGVASDFASFBVCX

08-23-2009, 04:38 AM	#7
CynyC Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 425	Re: [ITEM]Sauron's Axe LotR isnt DotA, as Anime isnt DotA, as Other things aren' DotA as... Also, Sauren was like wolololo epic splash dmg pwnage. And he used a mace Conceptually though, not bad. Mixing Damage with Damage Block. I might actually use this in DotA as an item since i'm fond of the Poor Man's. Change the theme, please __________________ Cynyc's Portfolio - Click for all my Item Suggestions! Always using ShadowKnight172's Item Template : Companion :: Druid Crown :: Rapier :: Aether Ring :: Primal Pact :: Dwarvern Targe :: Aegis of Seeing :: Erubite Gauntlets :: Mesmer's Regalia :: Mur'Gul Blades :: Du'Guirka :: Discharger :: Turgeon's Haunt :: Fearmonger :: Earthrender :: Benevolence :: Necrothain :

08-24-2009, 04:01 AM	#9
NoThlnG Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PlayDotA.com Posts: 13,954 Blog Entries: 8	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe LOL... Parrying was my idea --a Anyway I like your idea of parrying. It's better than mine. T-Up __________________ Assassin's Creed Helpful Links Suggestions Epic Quotes . Credits to Lotus V Eater . . How to Get Your Suggestion Implemented Custom Model GIF Request Suggestion Assisstor's Thread Guides, Lists and Templates How to Become a Moderator . . Suggestion Portfolio My Ability Collections .

08-24-2009, 12:16 PM	#11
king_james Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Makati City, Philippines Posts: 4,330 Blog Entries: 6	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe Why are there 2 PMS's? I suggest 1 instead. Parry seems ok, but as soon as the unit target dies, it resets again, haha. Overall, i like the item, its seems reasonable to get for tank heroes. __________________ Rok'jan, the Voodoo Warrior ON LEAVE.

09-12-2009, 04:45 PM	#15
MurazorOFAngmar Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, CA Posts: 4,965 Blog Entries: 21	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe I like the concept of parrying a lot, so I'll T-up this. Nice build up too. __________________ IGosu Us.East Dota since 2002 - RoC - Warcraft since 1997

09-20-2009, 08:05 AM	#16
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,055 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe thanks for the support! __________________ AISJHDBNAJSLNDOASADJNDERTERGDSGF VCIXJUBWQOQIEJROIPPEOEDFS OWEJRNVHCBVOJEFNXKDLSRETRDVXCBDFGDFGS LNCVBWUEQPWEOPEUGNSDJQSFDG XZJSRTHEOBSERVERWEOSD QWOEIQWEJRNZXMSKDFPQWDRTYTITSF KXMVQOWERIWETPOQWMVKSWADSFWEVGFH CLVKMNMQWPEIEREWRZXCFSSF QWEMWSIDKFMZZXCMALSDKGGVASDFASFBVCX

12-07-2009, 10:52 PM	#17
Cp6uja Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 19,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe I like the item, but I have a feeling that it should be much stronger. I mean, now, its just a regular upgrade. Give it some stronger effects, IMO. __________________ Increase DotA Speed Free Steam game PDIH RGC Dotalicious-Gaming Increase DotA speed for about 10 fps here. Want fast and stable DotA? Go here! Team Fortress 2 is now FREE TO DOWNLOAD! How to join is here under How to Apply/Join. League with Reconnection Tool, Stats tracking, no Leavers and multiaccounts. CLICK

08-23-2010, 03:06 PM	#19
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,055 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM]Biggoron's Axe bump __________________ AISJHDBNAJSLNDOASADJNDERTERGDSGF VCIXJUBWQOQIEJROIPPEOEDFS OWEJRNVHCBVOJEFNXKDLSRETRDVXCBDFGDFGS LNCVBWUEQPWEOPEUGNSDJQSFDG XZJSRTHEOBSERVERWEOSD QWOEIQWEJRNZXMSKDFPQWDRTYTITSF KXMVQOWERIWETPOQWMVKSWADSFWEVGFH CLVKMNMQWPEIEREWRZXCFSSF QWEMWSIDKFMZZXCMALSDKGGVASDFASFBVCX