[Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider

Zburatorul · 03-09-2010, 03:59 AM

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Undaria, Hyppogryph Rider

Hero Icon:

Ultimate Icon:

Models:

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Hero History:
In the heat of battle, Night Elf Archers can call upon the mighty Hippogryphs to carry them into the air. The Archers mount the flying beasts and are capable of firing their arrows from the Hippogryphs' backs. The brave creatures respond to the female riders as if they shared an empathic bond.

Affiliation: Sentinel
Damage: 45-50
Str: 18
Agi: 24 (Main Attribute)
Int: 15

HP: 350
MP: 150
MS: 310
Atack Range: 550

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1) Magic Arrows	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Unit
	Ability Hotkey	R

Description: Cast a spell upon arrow, that made it more effective.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Cast Range	Duration	Effects
1	10	0	550	N/A	Bonus 10 dmg, 30% chance to throw back 100 unit.
2	15	0	550	N/A	Bonus 20 dmg, 30% chance to throw back 150 unit.
3	20	0	550	N/A	Bonus 30 dmg, 30% chance to throw back 200 unit.
4	25	0	550	N/A	Bonus 40 dmg, 30% chance to throw back 250 Unit Range.

Notes:
* Effect looks like Vacuum ability.
* Magic arrows are Orb Effects, non Buff Placers.

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2) Strong nerves	Ability Type:	Passive
	Targeting Type:	N/A
	Ability Hotkey	E

Description:Enchanted with magic, her nerves become more stronger. Passively increase rezistence against mass skills and effects of interfering movement (Stun, Slow).

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Duration	Target	Effects
1	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	10% Damage and Time Reduction
2	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	20% Damage and Time Reduction
3	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	30% Damage and Time Reduction
4	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	40% Damage and Time Reduction

Notes:
* Single target stun will do full damage just duration will be reduced. Damage will be reducet to mass skills: Vacuum, Black Hole, Poof etc.

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3) Hyppogryph flute	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Instant
	Ability Hotkey	T

Description: Sound of this flute, call the Hyppogryph that fly in the sky. He made fast attack to marked enemy and fly back.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	C. Range	Time before effect	Effects
1	90	15	All map	4 sec	100 Damage + 1 sec Stun
2	110	15	All map	3.5 sec	175 Damage + 1.5 sec Stun
3	130	15	All map	3 sec	250 Damage + 2 sec Stun
4	150	15	All map	2.5 sec	325 Damage + 2.5 sec Stun

Notes:
* Enemy must be in a vision area 4/3.5/3/2.5 second before Hyppogryph apear and hit.

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Ultimate: Mount Hyppogryph	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Instant
	Ability Hotkey	G

Description: Undaria will mount the Hyppogryph, that made him to fight together. Undaria can attack from the back of Hyppogryph, flying and having bonus attack speed.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Duration	Effects
1	90	120	30 sec	Undaria will fly, +50% AS
2	120	90	30 sec	Undaria will fly, +70% AS
3	150	60	30 sec	Undaria will fly, +90% AS

Notes:
* During ultimate Hyppogryph can be throwed forward instant to hit target. Cast range 800 and bonus damage 100/175/250. After activate "Hyppogryph flute", ultimate is breaked and unmounted.

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Changelogs:

1) Reworked 1 skill
2) Reworked 3 skill
3) Reworked Ultimate
4) Rebalanced 1 and 3 skill
5) Reworked description
6) Hero history added
7) Hero name changed

First Version

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1) Magic Arrows	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Unit
	Ability Hotkey	R

Description: Cast a spell upon arrow, that made it more effective.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Cast Range	Duration	Effects
1	10	0	550	3 sec	Bonus 10 dmg, First arrow will bind the target to the ground. Following arrows will drag the target to the binded place with 50 unit.
2	15	0	550	3 sec	Bonus 20 dmg, First arrow will bind the target to the ground. Following arrows will drag the target to the binded place with 100 unit.
3	20	0	550	3 sec	Bonus 30 dmg, First arrow will bind the target to the ground. Following arrows will drag the target to the binded place with 150 unit.
4	25	0	550	3 sec	Bonus 40 dmg, First arrow will bind the target to the ground. Following arrows will drag the target to the binded place with 200 unit.

Notes:
* Effect looks like Vacuum ability.
* Magic arrows are Orb Effects and Buff Placers.

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2) Strong nerves	Ability Type:	Passive
	Targeting Type:	N/A
	Ability Hotkey	E

Description:Enchanted with magic, her nerves become more stronger. Passively increase rezistence against mass skills and effects of interfering movement (Stun, Slow).

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Duration	Target	Effects
1	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	10% Damage and Time Reduction
2	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	20% Damage and Time Reduction
3	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	30% Damage and Time Reduction
4	N/A	N/A	N/A	Self	40% Damage and Time Reduction

Notes:
* Single target stun will do full damage just duration will be reduced. Damage will be reducet to mass skills: Vacuum, Black Hole, Poof etc.

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3) Hyppogryph flute	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Instant
	Ability Hotkey	T

Description: Sound of this flute, call the Hyppogryph that fly in the sky. He made fast attack and fly back waiting for another call. Hyppogryph fall on the enemy, grab and drag him in the direction of where was heared flute.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	C. Range	Time before effect	Effects
1	90	20	All map	3.5 sec	50 damage per every 50 unit range. 300 drag range
2	110	20	All map	3 sec	50 damage per every 50 unit range. 350 drag range
3	130	20	All map	2.5 sec	50 damage per every 50 unit range. 400 drag range
4	150	20	All map	2 sec	50 damage per every 50 unit range. 450 drag range.

Notes:
* Grabed hero can't attack, but cand do spell while is draged.
* Enemy must be in a vision radius 2 second before Hyppogryph apear.
* Hyppogryph have 500HP, magic imunity and 5Armor can be killed by other units.

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Ultimate: Mount Hyppogryph	Ability Type:	Active
	Targeting Type:	Instant
	Ability Hotkey	G

Description: Undaria call and mount Hyppogryph, that made him to fight together. Undaria can attack from the back of Hyppogryph, but if enemy get closer hyppogryph will attack them by himself.

lvl	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Duration	Effects
1	90	120	30 sec	Undaria can fly and attack while moving, in range of 150-200 Hyppogryph will attack nearest enemy.
2	120	90	30 sec	Undaria can fly and attack while moving, in range of 150-200 Hyppogryph will attack nearest enemy.
3	150	60	30 sec	Undaria can fly and attack while moving, in range of 150-200 Hyppogryph will attack nearest enemy.

Notes:
* During ultimate hyppogryph have same Attack and Atk. Speed like Undaria.
* While moving Undaria attack last target, automaticly he will not attack.

kanzakill · 03-09-2010, 04:27 AM

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First arrow will bind the target to the ground

For how long?

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Hyppogryph flute

50 unit range for 50 damage? Which unit range? The cast range, the range Hyppogryph traveled or the drag range?

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in range of 150-200 Hyppogryph will attack nearest enemy

Why those numbers?

That is a single model. In order to attack other enemies at the same time, they need to face other directions, which is impossible unless you attach the archer model on the hyppogryph.

melody10511 · 03-09-2010, 04:31 AM

I like the idea, but it's quite imba especially the first skill. With enough IAS, the target will not be able to move.

Zburatorul · 03-09-2010, 05:11 AM

#1 kanzakill, i will rework

i have made this hero at 4:00 am

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#2 melody10511 OK I will rise Manacost or rework it to balance skill.

kanzakill · 03-09-2010, 06:06 AM

I think you shouldn't change the grabbing part of third skill.

First skill seems fine now.

Later.

Zburatorul · 03-09-2010, 06:34 AM

Now it is not grabing, just hit and stun

trick is here to catch enemy 2,5 second in vision area. Or ultimate + 3 skill i think is fine )
I will change Icon of 3 skill.

And tnx.

kanzakill · 03-09-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zburatorul

Now it is not grabing, just hit and stun

trick is here to catch enemy 2,5 second in vision area. Or ultimate + 3 skill i think is fine )

What is good in making a skill imba and trying to balance it by giving it a super heavy condition?

I mean this:

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Enemy must be in a vision area 3.5/3/2.5/2 second before Hyppogryph apear and hit.

WHY?

The dragging was much better: you have to time accurately for it to be really useful. Just imagine helping a gank on bottom lane while staying on top lane. I'd fully support that.

Even better if you add a sub-skill that let you choose the direction you want the enemy to be dragged toward.

Zburatorul · 03-09-2010, 10:40 AM

that will be too imbalanced if Hyppogryph will drag the enemy
Hyppo can hit on all map and do stun for 2,5 sec that is very good

Beside of all Batrider have draging skill

his ultimate

Zburatorul · 03-12-2010, 02:50 AM

Hero History added.

I want to know people's opinion.

PALAKOKAK · 03-12-2010, 03:35 AM

put skill names...

Zburatorul · 03-12-2010, 10:03 PM

#1 PALAKOKAK, what do you mean?!

Zburatorul · 03-25-2010, 04:05 AM

Changelog added + some visual modifiers

Leave comments and be happy )

~Maktor~ · 07-03-2010, 07:19 PM

I really liked this hero... just 2 things:

-> the name "Lola" is ridiculous in a game like this, it simply doesn't fit... try an exotic name...

-> the arrows are just orb effects, not buff placers, just like clinkz's, since the only bonus is the damage and an occasional push (bash-based)

Zburatorul · 07-04-2010, 09:39 AM

Renamed and description edited.
~Maktor~, Thanks

Nightlynx · 07-05-2010, 04:59 AM

try Loira or Loilar... xD

alexjz · 07-05-2010, 05:17 AM

U forgot the stats gain?

Skill 1: mixture of searing arrow and greater bash. No creativity here.

Skill 2: too strong, much stronger than untouchable. Need some tweak here, or even change in concept.

Skill 3: Don't really understand this, care to explain?

Ulti: The dps is similar to rot or battery assault? The dps should be 50/70/90

Zburatorul · 07-11-2010, 12:47 AM

I have made a suggestion, if Ice Frog will decide to add this hero in DOTA, then, I am sure, the hero will be balanced and rebalanced a lot of times.
here is no sense to do lot of change for this hero, if it will be choosen then I will work much more time.

Mr. Burns · 11-24-2010, 04:28 PM

I like. T-up

Adrii · 11-25-2010, 09:44 AM

Even if the presentation of your hero is a bit crapy, i like the concept ^^ she would be so nice to play with.

I'll review later or tomorrow. A bit busy this week.

P.D: Your starting stats are wrong, please, fix it ok?

Zburatorul · 02-03-2011, 10:19 AM

If someone want to help me with this hero, please u're wellcome.

03-09-2010, 04:31 AM	#3
melody10511 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 256	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider I like the idea, but it's quite imba especially the first skill. With enough IAS, the target will not be able to move. __________________ [Item]Thunderfury Recipe using Sange! [Int-Sent]Medivh, the Master Manipulator Most mobile hero ever created! [Skill]Displacement Cool skill that needs suggestions! [Remake]Headshot Buff to Sniper! [Item]Blade of Tree Eating Recipe using Quelling Blade and Tango! [Rework]Unstable Concoction Fun rework to a fun skill! [Int-Scrg]Shepherd, The Demon Summoner Anti-Carry intelligence hero!

07-03-2010, 07:19 PM	#13
~Maktor~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jundiaí - SP, Brazil Posts: 1,984 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider I really liked this hero... just 2 things: -> the name "Lola" is ridiculous in a game like this, it simply doesn't fit... try an exotic name... -> the arrows are just orb effects, not buff placers, just like clinkz's, since the only bonus is the damage and an occasional push (bash-based)

07-05-2010, 04:59 AM	#15
Nightlynx Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 161	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider try Loira or Loilar... xD __________________ Check out my suggestions! The Ancient Series: Setekh, Ancient of Storms Tehuti, Ancient of Creation

07-05-2010, 05:17 AM	#16
alexjz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 412	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider U forgot the stats gain? Skill 1: mixture of searing arrow and greater bash. No creativity here. Skill 2: too strong, much stronger than untouchable. Need some tweak here, or even change in concept. Skill 3: Don't really understand this, care to explain? Ulti: The dps is similar to rot or battery assault? The dps should be 50/70/90

11-24-2010, 04:28 PM	#18
Mr. Burns Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mansion Posts: 5,049	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider I like. T-up

11-25-2010, 09:44 AM	#19
Adrii Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Home Posts: 137	Re: [Agil-Sent] Lola, Hippogryph Rider Even if the presentation of your hero is a bit crapy, i like the concept ^^ she would be so nice to play with. I'll review later or tomorrow. A bit busy this week. P.D: Your starting stats are wrong, please, fix it ok? __________________ CM FTW! <3