Ring of Overprotection

kanzakill · 03-10-2010, 11:48 AM

Changelog

Ring of Overprotection

Recipe:

	+		+		=
175	+	175	+	100	=	450

Description:
Putting two small rings on was hard so they combined them into one.

Before:	After:
+4 armor	+4 armor
.	Indulgence (passive)

Indulgence
Increase wielder's armor by a maximum amount of 20
For every 2 physical damage wielder takes, decrease this item's bonus armor by 1
Recover bonus armor by 1 every second

HellCraft · 03-10-2010, 11:53 AM

Nice concept of bringing a cheap upgrade for an extremely weak item. Lovely description too. But I am afraid that the effect might be too overpowered. The first 3-4 attacks done to you(when armor bonus is 25) will hardly deal any damage. It's like a refraction for physical attacks.
I would suggest remaking the passive into something else. Something good for early laning making this item good as a starter.

kanzakill · 03-10-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HellCraft

I would suggest remaking the passive into something else. Something good for early laning making this item good as a starter.

Isn't it very good for early laning? It was made aimed toward heroes with very low armor.

Quote:

But I am afraid that the effect might be too overpowered. The first 3-4 attacks done to you(when armor bonus is 25) will hardly deal any damage. It's like a refraction for physical attacks.

Hm, I will nerf it. Thanks!

HellCraft · 03-10-2010, 10:57 PM

It doesn't help in laning that much. But more in ganking, where you can tank a few tower shots taking only 50 damage, helping you kill that tower hugging hero.

kvv · 03-10-2010, 11:01 PM

It certainly does help you in laning. Cheap shots from the support VS or Warlock on the other side won't do you any harm.

On the other hand, it will also decrease creep damage if you are the one doing the harassing or attacking. But +25 armour is probably too much imo.

HellCraft · 03-10-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HellCraft

It doesn't help in laning that much.

It does. But very less compared to how much it helps in tanking towers.

kanzakill · 03-11-2010, 02:15 PM

Nerfed the maximum amount of armor increased/decreased

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellCraft

It does. But very less compared to how much it helps in tanking towers.

Please remember that if you relies on it too much, your armor'll be reduced to dust in no time.

HellCraft · 03-11-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kanzakill

Please remember that if you relies on it too much, your armor'll be reduced to dust in no time.

You can tank up to 4 tower shots, and anyway after your armor will be 'reduced to dust', you will get it back within a few seconds.

kanzakill · 03-11-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HellCraft

You can tank up to 4 tower shots, and anyway after your armor will be 'reduced to dust', you will get it back within a few seconds.

Hm, to get it back from -20 to 20, you'll need 20 seconds. By that time you're long dead.

HellCraft · 03-11-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kanzakill

Hm, to get it back from -20 to 20, you'll need 20 seconds. By that time you're long dead.

But didn't you forget that you already killed the enemy hero?

Torchic Maniac · 03-11-2010, 05:47 PM

That's probably going to be a small recipe cost but it's concept is quite good.

kanzakill · 03-11-2010, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellCraft

But didn't you forget that you already killed the enemy hero?

Changed the condition to lower the bonus armor

No more tower diving for you

anonymus-萃香 · 03-12-2010, 10:10 AM

Concept : A (Awesome concept, very situational but useful in most cases)
Balance : C+ (25 is too much for such a cheap recipe both the positive and negative buff)
Cosmetic : B (Very warcraftish, ingame, I dislike the name though)
Overall : B+ (Need a little tweak but it's good overall)

Teeth · 03-12-2010, 10:13 AM

Nice concept, but needs a recipe.

HellCraft · 03-12-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kanzakill

Changed the condition to lower the bonus armor

No more tower diving for you

Now isn't it much more stronger? 1 armor decrease only?
Or maybe it's for every 2 damage and not every damage increase that deals more than 2 damage?

OMGitsPAPI · 03-12-2010, 10:18 AM

just make the armor to +10 and maybe give a +1 regen to help in laning a bit

kanzakill · 03-12-2010, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellCraft

Or maybe it's for every 2 damage

Yes, but now it's quite weak due to the fact that nukers will rape the wielder

Balancing starter item is really hard ...

HellCraft · 03-12-2010, 10:23 AM

Make it such that the item won't ever give you negative armor, it will only reduce the armor given by itself.

kanzakill · 03-12-2010, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellCraft

Make it such that the item won't ever give you negative armor, it will only reduce the armor given by itself.

That and a bit faster armor "regeneration". Seems like a very good starter item to me

Thank you

Audacious · 03-12-2010, 05:35 PM

So I have 25 armor and have to take "in theory" 10 hits from Mortred to lose 10 armor?

03-10-2010, 11:53 AM	#2
HellCraft Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 679	Re: Ring of Overprotection Nice concept of bringing a cheap upgrade for an extremely weak item. Lovely description too. But I am afraid that the effect might be too overpowered. The first 3-4 attacks done to you(when armor bonus is 25) will hardly deal any damage. It's like a refraction for physical attacks. I would suggest remaking the passive into something else. Something good for early laning making this item good as a starter.

03-10-2010, 10:57 PM	#4
HellCraft Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 679	Re: Ring of Overprotection It doesn't help in laning that much. But more in ganking, where you can tank a few tower shots taking only 50 damage, helping you kill that tower hugging hero.

03-10-2010, 11:01 PM	#5
kvv Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 940	Re: Ring of Overprotection It certainly does help you in laning. Cheap shots from the support VS or Warlock on the other side won't do you any harm. On the other hand, it will also decrease creep damage if you are the one doing the harassing or attacking. But +25 armour is probably too much imo.

03-11-2010, 05:47 PM	#11
Torchic Maniac Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 643 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ring of Overprotection That's probably going to be a small recipe cost but it's concept is quite good. __________________ Suggestion Review Status: CLOSED

03-12-2010, 10:10 AM	#13
anonymus-萃香 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 416	Re: Ring of Overprotection Concept : A (Awesome concept, very situational but useful in most cases) Balance : C+ (25 is too much for such a cheap recipe both the positive and negative buff) Cosmetic : B (Very warcraftish, ingame, I dislike the name though) Overall : B+ (Need a little tweak but it's good overall) __________________ GENERATION 22:The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

03-12-2010, 10:13 AM	#14
Teeth Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 377	Re: Ring of Overprotection Nice concept, but needs a recipe. __________________ Johan Cornwall (me) - The Shepherd

03-12-2010, 10:18 AM	#16
OMGitsPAPI Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada,SK Posts: 1,055	Re: Ring of Overprotection just make the armor to +10 and maybe give a +1 regen to help in laning a bit __________________

03-12-2010, 10:23 AM	#18
HellCraft Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 679	Re: Ring of Overprotection Make it such that the item won't ever give you negative armor, it will only reduce the armor given by itself.

03-12-2010, 05:35 PM	#20
Audacious Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the world Platon doesn't believe in. Posts: 5,078 Blog Entries: 10	Re: Ring of Overprotection So I have 25 armor and have to take "in theory" 10 hits from Mortred to lose 10 armor? __________________ Use moms credit card - PROFIT! - Protect your freedom. 15€ For Freedom? Fuck yea! Wajeha's Vox Samuel's Crown Ellic's Sensus