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aghanim effect is uncodable tho
and ulti is imba 30 sec cd 600 dmg nuke with silence and purge ^^ |
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Justify this change, please. 30 sec cd purge would make Lina an unbelievable hardcounter to Brood and Sven.
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mana cost still same??
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Actually, if the bonus damage was removed from Aghs, and this purge/silence effect added instead, it would be quite good to see, and a nice way to differentiate it from being a slightly more powerful Finger.
Td the actual skill changes though. |
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This needs some more thought and justification. I don't really see a reason why this should be changed other than differentiation from Finger.
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Moreover, the concept is interesting. Lighting + Purge goes really well, logically. Silence doesn't seem to fit. Plain burst damage is boring. |
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This has potential and yes the aghanim can be coded
Basically, you created 6 spells (2 each level right?) Everytime Lina cast ulti the game will detect whether she has aghanim or not If she does roll dice 0-1, 0 remove skill, and add skill (0 to long cooldown, 1 to short cooldown)
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Beside make it diff from finger, I would like to give Lina 1 more disable other than plain nuke.
LSA is hard to land b'coz her shitty casting animation, and it only stun for 1.6 sec (worse than Sven Storm Bolt). This disable is quite unreliable, and I'm thinking it should has longer casting range (800 casting range) The aghanim effect is try to make Lina scale better toward late game, and a indirect buff to Fiery Soul. (I do make maps, I know it's codable or not) I've change the Laguna Blade damage type.
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Changing the damage to pure is a terrible idea. I also don't see the need for a random cooldown.
What I like about the remake is the incentive to initiate with Laguna. |
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i hoped that it'll be some kind of Laguna Blade from slayers suggestion ,but this way >.>...naah
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I actually like the overall concept, of Laguna doing Pure damage. The purge effect sounds cool too, but my personal opinion would be to add it as the Aghanim's Upgrade instead.
T-Up for the concept. In terms of respecting the actual anime Lina came from, the Laguna Blade in the anime is supposed to be some Void element, so Pure damage and Purge sounds right on the spot. In terms of gameplay, this makes her Ulti noticeably different from Lion's and more "disables" = more "profit". Numbers can be tweaked, so I won't comment on that.
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T-Up definitely, but keep in mind Purging is like electricity and Lina is a Pyromancer, and you can't hook those two up unless its Avatar (the Last Airbender)
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I like the concept because lion and lina have similar ultimates but lion is an overused hero while lina is not. Lina will gank better with this pure damage purging low cd ult. But I think that aghanim should increase damage not the cooldown rate. And what about damage to summoned units? I think it should be about 200/300/400.
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What about increasing purge rate, and make it Pure damage for aghanim, so its not pure before aghanim?
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Most of her spells came from Shamanism Some are Black-, and two are White-Magic T-Up Pure dmg fits the Black Magic-theme of the Anime counterpart And Purge fits the "get rid of all evil in the world"-theme
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Maybe make the purge effect as Agha upgrade...
Also, increase the cd to 100/80/60 and increase the damage as well (300/500/700)
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but why does the hero info says " A pyromancer?"
And I personally don't really looking forward to a remake of Lina's Laguna. Cause I'm still keepin' up a game of killsteal tug of war with a close friend of mine who likes to use... Lion ._. |
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Make it pure after she gets agh, and make purge duration 1/1.5/2 then T-up
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