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Old 03-16-2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,

I usually use Sven and many think he is such a versatile and fluid character.
Could Sven users here give me one item you always have to use for him, then another item which is more like a whacky build but will still be effective.

1 core item (i.e. S&Y, Satanic, etc.)
1 whacky item (i.e. Guinsoo, etc. haha.)

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Please include/mention atleast 2 items which you think work well together for him (i.e. Satanic & Buriza - Lifesteal the crit while in G.S.)

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Old 03-16-2010, 06:21 PM   #2
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1 core item: bkb
1 whacky item: mom

2 items which work well together: blink + bkb: blink in, activate bkb, stun, autoattack till they die.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:27 PM   #3
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Core items is basically BKB and some form of attack speed. I prefer MoM.

If you want to go for lot of ganking get dagger but otherwise not. Boots should preferably be treads, and you might want 1/2 bracers/wand.

Lux items afterwards are buriza, battlefury, heart, depends on game.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:28 PM   #4
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Dagger (Sven hates walking)
bottle
treads
bkb

wacky item Mom, armlet
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:35 PM   #5
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Treads
Wand
BKB
AC
HoT


MOM is nice but against coordinated teams you tend to get focused out too fast to make good use of it, better to put that 2k into a hyperstone imo
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:40 PM   #6
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MOM is nice but against coordinated teams you tend to get focused out too fast to make good use of it, better to put that 2k into a hyperstone imo
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:42 PM   #7
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mom bkb blink~~
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:46 PM   #8
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BKB + Armlet + HotD / MoM + treads
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:46 PM   #9
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Stacked Battlefuries.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:47 PM   #10
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Bottle
Treads
Dagger
BkB
MoM
HoT
Armlet of Mordiggian
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Core Item: BattleFury.
Whacky Item: Another BattleFury.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:50 PM   #12
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Core Item: BattleFury.
Whacky Item: Another BattleFury.

Starting item: ?
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:50 PM   #13
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armlets 25 str synergises with his ulti, and the degen can be countered by satanic. but often you will not farm that much (unless em), so get str treads (dagger if like to jump), and bkb
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:50 PM   #14
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Carry:
BKB MoM/Armlet Crits

Ganker:
Magic Wand Bottle Treads Armlet

Inniator:
Dagger + Armlet

Support:
Wand Treads 2 HoiW One for HotD and One For Armlet
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:53 PM   #15
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blink+bottle+streads+wand+mom+tp scroll. too many disbales? grab a bkb
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Starting item: ?
1. Start with a RoH if you randomed him, upgrade to Bfury.
2. Else start with a QB and stout to defend and farm till you can buy RoH.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:59 PM   #17
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Tred wand Blink
-> BKB
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:44 AM   #18
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bfury if u hav a "sucker" on ur team XD ...such as mag, engima, darkseer
but 99% u'll go for treads, wand, bottle, BKB, blink

extensions...buriza, heart, etc...
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Core item #1 :Arcane
Core item #2: MoM
Core item #3: Treads
Core item #4: Stick
Core item #5: Blademail
Core item #6: Bkb
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:00 AM   #20
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lol arcane :/
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:33 AM   #21
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Core item #1 :Arcane
Core item #2: MoM
Core item #3: Treads
Core item #4: Stick
Core item #5: Blademail
Core item #6: Bkb
Arcane is a poor item choice on Sven in my opinion. Get a combination of bottle/wand/urn and mana problems should be fine early game.
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Arcane is a poor item choice on Sven in my opinion. Get a combination of bottle/wand/urn and mana problems should be fine early game.
Poor item choice to have the ability to spam storm bolts every 14 seconds,to use ultimate and warcry without fear of going oom,to FARM using arcane,to turtle,to save.
Bottle/wand and...urn?What is urn suppossed to do with 50% mp on a 14+1.3 int gain hero?
You also need 2 bottle charges to use 1 storm bolt,or 1 bottle charge 5-6 charges of magic stick.Bottle and stick have expiration time,but arcane does not.
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1700 just for mana which isn't even necessary? no thx
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:18 AM   #24
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he does have a point though.. storm bolt is the most powerful stun in the game- point click, long ranged, can't be dodged, massive AOE damage and 2 sec stun. Hell its practically worth a level 2 ultimate. Arcane is a bit over the top, but mana is good for sven. I usually don't have mana problems with Sven because I get five levels of stats before lvl 11 instead of that bullshit 'cry' spell, which I only get at lvl 17+ for additional armour.
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Old 03-17-2010, 04:23 AM   #25
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1:Threads
2:Vald's
3:BKB
4:S'n'Y
5:HOT
6:Butterfly
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Poor item choice to have the ability to spam storm bolts every 14 seconds,to use ultimate and warcry without fear of going oom,to FARM using arcane,to turtle,to save.
Bottle/wand and...urn?What is urn suppossed to do with 50% mp on a 14+1.3 int gain hero?
You also need 2 bottle charges to use 1 storm bolt,or 1 bottle charge 5-6 charges of magic stick.Bottle and stick have expiration time,but arcane does not.
1700 gold for +300 mana? No thank-you.
Not to mention Bottle will also give HP and the ability to rune whore.

I see most Sven users play fine with Bottle/Stick, I don't see the need to build an item purely for mana consumption.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:51 AM   #27
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Well, thanks guys.

BKB, Armlet and Blink is very promising. But I usually see those on high level competitions, most newbies have a hard time mastering those...or even simply using it.

Battle Fury, MoM, etc. is more like for pub or LAN games, where you can't rely much on others other than your own. (unlike BKB and blink which is more team oriented items-gank and clash).

Blademail and arcane are more likely situational.

I think bottle type sven with crow is pretty nice, what you say guys?

Thanks again for the opinions and keep them going ^^
I want to learn as much as I can.

And...let me hear 1 core item that can counter him then another whacky item that can still take him down (whacky item must be cheap while core item may be expensive)
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@^iffusal Blade.
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:15 AM   #29
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1. Tread
2. Bottle
3. Wand
4. TP scroll
5. Circlet
6. Circlet

Then get Dagger, crystalis, Hyperstone, Boots of Travel, HoT, Bfly, ect.

Sven not hard carry! He get out carry easy by super carries like PL/Naga/Morph/TB/Void or 6.64 super tank carries like Spectre/Medusa/Razor/Visage or better semi carries like Slardar.

Play him as ganker/semi carry. His mid game power much high with stormbolt and god strength. Dagger makes him a ganker because it gives him mobility to close the distance between his enemy and give him element of surprise.
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Treads
Bottle
Dagger
BkB
(after core = MoM)
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I think bottle type sven with crow is pretty nice, what you say guys?
Probably not a great idea to hog the crow due to the carry needing preferential use of it. However, you can always buy a crow specifically for your self and refill the bottle like that and be a wanna-be Pitlord.

Anyways, the 400 gold required to do that is wasted not to mention the time taken to ferry it. Better off just roaming and then heading back to fountain for the refill + new items.
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Ever trird deso with sven? try it !
Try this build - threads,deso,vlad,assul,bkb,heart/buriza ^^
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Probably not a great idea to hog the crow due to the carry needing preferential use of it. However, you can always buy a crow specifically for your self and refill the bottle like that and be a wanna-be Pitlord.

Anyways, the 400 gold required to do that is wasted not to mention the time taken to ferry it. Better off just roaming and then heading back to fountain for the refill + new items.
Yeah. I don't usually use bottle. But i think that if u can utilize it as much as mirana, anub'arak or nevermore, then lane control is yours, with your aoe stun and ganking will be no problem. no need to head back home.
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Ever trird deso with sven? try it !
Try this build - threads,deso,vlad,assul,bkb,heart/buriza ^^
Yeah. Deso rocks. if only GS multiplies its damage...haha, i wish!

But technically, if an enemy's armor goes higher than about 10-15. MKB and Buriza would be better to make it look as if the enemy never had armor. (MKB-the minibashes and true strike, Buriza-The crit)
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core - BkB
whacky - Skadi
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