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Old 03-27-2010, 09:35 AM   #1
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Default [Gem] Truesight vision range


Currently Gem gives a truesight vision of 1100 Aoe.
Most heroes have at day a vision range of 1800 Aoe.

That means that Gem does not give the hero real truesight, cause at the borders of his vision he has no truesight.



As a suggestion adjust the Gem Truesight Aoe to the actual vision range of the hero.
(1800 day/ 800 night) with some (12 to be exact) exceptions.

This is done by creationg 7 different gems with each a different Truesight range, and giving it the heroes accordingly to their Sight range.

Edit: It is codeable!
Edit2: There was some confusion about the formulation. Note: Its not a fix.
Edit3: Thanks to Sgt Failure presenting another way to code this. According to him it is also possible to give the item an ability. Hence only 1 item would be needed.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:00 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

ahhaha 7 gem with different range of sight
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:12 AM   #3
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ahhaha 7 gem with different range of sight
Ofcourse it would adjust automatically if you hadn't noticed -_-

This could be problematic, as items can't change while they are in your inventory (just like QB doesn't change to melee on syllabear, or other ppls items not getting unmuted if you already have them in your inventory)

But it makes perfect sense, so if it is codeable t-up
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

I asked for the codeablitity in the programmers corner. It is possible.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:16 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

Nice idea, TUP, its more logical than the current one.
But Idk, 7 gems, is it a lot?
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:34 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

It's not different from the way agha's is adjusting now.
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Old 03-30-2010, 04:06 PM   #7
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Nice idea, TUP, its more logical than the current one.
But Idk, 7 gems, is it a lot?
In mapsize increase for the code it takes to create the items and give it to the heroes?
I guess its neglactable.
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It's not different from the way agha's is adjusting now.
Well agha doesnt to it dynamik, but i guess its comparable.
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Old 03-30-2010, 04:37 PM   #8
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Well agha doesnt to it dynamik, but i guess its comparable.
I meant it's not 7 new items in the shop but... ah you get my point
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:29 PM   #9
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I meant it's not 7 new items in the shop but... ah you get my point
Ya

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Old 04-01-2010, 06:43 PM   #10
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T-up
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:51 PM   #11
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T up indeed!
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:53 PM   #12
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

That's really interesting. But ain't that an actual buff to Gem of True Sight?
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:00 PM   #13
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Default Re: [Gem] Truesight vision range

T-UP, and its easy to code. Also compared to the 30 something number of aga spectors there are having 6 more gems wouldn't cause a very large MSI.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:12 PM   #14
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That's really interesting. But ain't that an actual buff to Gem of True Sight?
Could be a buff, but makes more sense anyway.
The gem is a object which you can see through to reveal invisible units.
If you can see the spot where your opponent (in invis) is standing, it would be only plain logic to reveal him if your looking at him through the gem.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:37 PM   #15
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T up, it makes sense
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #16
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t-up but does that mean an NS with aghanims could see invisibles thru trees at night?
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:57 PM   #17
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t-up but does that mean an NS with aghanims could see invisibles thru trees at night?
He can already.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:38 AM   #18
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Could be a buff, but makes more sense anyway.
The gem is a object which you can see through to reveal invisible units.
If you can see the spot where your opponent (in invis) is standing, it would be only plain logic to reveal him if your looking at him through the gem.
But of course, it is logical. I was talking about the buff part.

Yeah, why not?

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Old 04-02-2010, 09:25 AM   #19
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But of course, it is logical. I was talking about the buff part.

Yeah, why not?

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It's a buff and a nerf. As aravis said, most heroes have a vision range of 1800 day/ 800 night and the current gem range is a fixed 1100. So at day it would be a buff for most heroes and at night it would be a nerf. I think this fix will bring some more depth into gem carrying... this could work out like, that people will not only say 'tide, youre the tank get a frigging gem already' but people (pros that is) would consider giving it to luna for example, because she has a far better night sight range now.
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