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Old 03-28-2010, 07:10 PM   #1
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Default [Command] -Roshan


As you might know (or not), Roshan re-spawns 10 minutes after it has been killed. Since suggestions about a Roshan timer and global messages about its respawning have been quite controversial in the past, I think I've come up with something that will provide to be useful, but without taking any strategic value from the game (in fact, it rewards the alert player, which is what DotA is about).

My suggestion is to add a command ("-roshan" or "-rk" (Thanks nOThInG), for example), that will display the following message:

"Roshan was slayed at XX:XX (game time when Roshan was last killed)".

Or simply:

Roshan will respawn in XX:XX:

Seriously, it's not going to kill anyone. We shouldn't be making DotA harder than it is by hiding important gameplay information from the players. You'll be amazed to know how many people doesn't even know that it takes 10 minutes for Roshan to respawn.

This is aimed to fix that. Only through full knowledge of a game mechanics a player can actually get better. The learning curve of DotA should reside in correct use and timing of the skills/heroes/items and map awareness, not in hiding information. Obviously some of it has to be left out due to space, but this is one little, doable addition, that will surely help more than one clueless bastard out there.

Alternatively, I'll be happy if players just got a message, like I suggested Here.
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

Of all the ideas about indicating Roshan's respawn, this seems to be the most elegant and effective one. So, t-up, you can predict when he'll respawn, but not in such an obvious way as the other suggested solutions.
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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Why Not?
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this would be really useful
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:30 PM   #4
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:05 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

Hmm. Basically, you type "-roshan", it shows you this ""Roshan was slayed at XX:XX" and you just type in ally chat: Hey guys, come at Roshan's spot after XX:XX mins", which is the same thing like timer or message appearing.

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Old 03-28-2010, 10:07 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

^ Of course, and that's exactly what makes this one different from a global message or timer: You will know when it was slayed and you can do the math on your head, but you have to be paying attention yourself: The game won't tell you when Roshan has resurrected, you have to remember to go there on your own; thus, you can be distracted by many things.

It is basically like it is now (because you can memorize when you/others killed Roshan), only a little more exact.
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:45 AM   #7
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:53 AM   #8
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:55 AM   #9
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

way to steal my suggestion off the THR forums...

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Old 03-29-2010, 09:06 AM   #10
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

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^ Of course, and that's exactly what makes this one different from a global message or timer: You will know when it was slayed and you can do the math on your head, but you have to be paying attention yourself: The game won't tell you when Roshan has resurrected, you have to remember to go there on your own; thus, you can be distracted by many things.

It is basically like it is now (because you can memorize when you/others killed Roshan), only a little more exact.
No, my point was that telling your allies when Roshan will respawn is the same thing like global message. Everyone will know that. And the point is, like you stated, each player to notice Roshan's death and do the calculation alone. But that's not the case here.

Hmm, I agree with the part that the player must memorize the exact time when Rosh has been killed and then to add 10 mins. Why I'm not doing this in-game?
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:44 AM   #11
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

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way to steal my suggestion off the THR forums...

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I have no idea what THR forums are, and I've never been there AFAIK. I performed a search before creating this thread and all the results were similar but not the same (global messages and such). I can assure you that this thread was not created with ill will or a desire to plagiarize your idea.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:51 AM   #12
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

T-up. ( AT THE GUY WHO SAYS T-NULL, HOW THE HELL DO YOU NULL YOUR THUMB WTF)
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:55 AM   #13
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T-up. ( AT THE GUY WHO SAYS T-NULL, HOW THE HELL DO YOU NULL YOUR THUMB WTF)
Mantle + Circlet + Recipe + Thumb?

On-topic: T-Up.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:59 AM   #14
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

This requires direct implementation
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:15 AM   #15
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

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Mantle + Circlet + Recipe + Thumb?

On-topic: T-Up.
LOL....

Anyway, T-Up

But I prefer something like -rt (roshan time) or -rk (roshan killed time)

Since something simple is always better
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:21 PM   #16
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Support!
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:19 PM   #17
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Mantle + Circlet + Recipe + Thumb?

On-topic: T-Up.




Still, holding vote.
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:37 PM   #18
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Great suggestion.T-up
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:07 PM   #20
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Default Re: [Command] -Roshan

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LOL....

Anyway, T-Up

But I prefer something like -rt (roshan time) or -rk (roshan killed time)

Since something simple is always better
Sure, don't worry. My suggested command was only exemplificative, it can (and probably should) be changed.

Everyone, thanks for your support.
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