[GAMEPLAY] All AoE Skill Hit Invisible Unit.

NoThlnG · 08-24-2009, 04:16 AM

Currently, there are some area skills that doesn't hit invisible unit such as

- Jakiro - Icy Path (The freezing visual isn't visible)
- Razor - Plasma Field
- Naga Siren - Song of the Siren
etc.

Why some skills can hit invisible unit while some not?

I suggest to make "ALL" area skills to hit invisible units.

P.S : This excludes single-target based area skills (that the animation is depends on units) such as Dream Coil, Scream of Pain and Death Pulse

EseQueL · 08-24-2009, 04:47 AM

yes! it makes sense!
T-up

The Observer · 08-24-2009, 04:52 AM

yeah, i agree to this.

NoThlnG · 08-24-2009, 09:19 AM

Oh ya, please gives other AoE skill that doesn't hit invisible unit...

kanzakill · 08-24-2009, 09:26 AM

Hm ...

There'd be a problem if Ice Path could hit invisible units:
Jakiro's team would know the location of the invisible unit(s) that got stuck in Ice Path

pew pew pew
=> null for this one, if you suggested this to buff Jakiro then T-up

doomsheep · 08-24-2009, 10:37 AM

thats all doable by making the dummy that gives the stun to be owned by the target, and trigger the damage. pucks ult is doable this way too btw.

RazedBlossoms · 08-24-2009, 10:38 AM

Wahaha, I'd like to see Scream of Pain hitting invisible units. >

doomsheep · 08-24-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazedBlossoms

Wahaha, I'd like to see Scream of Pain hitting invisible units. >

its based on a ladder skill, it would have to be coded D:

Cp6uja · 08-24-2009, 04:58 PM

I only hate Axes. Anyone wants to post more, I'm out of ideas.

HELLRAISER · 08-24-2009, 08:46 PM

looks reasonable, T-up

DuKKY · 08-24-2009, 11:31 PM

yah T-up on this! they still there!! invisibility doesnt mean another dimension

NoThlnG · 08-25-2009, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazedBlossoms

Wahaha, I'd like to see Scream of Pain hitting invisible units. >

Skills like Scream of Pain and Dream Coil is excluded because it's an area skill based on "enemies" (err... I means that there will be no animation if there is no enemies)

jenovaschild · 08-26-2009, 01:20 AM

T-UP!
This is a great idea and should be implemented soon

Eye · 08-26-2009, 02:23 AM

You should credit the people who suggested those skills to hit invisible units originally (ramomar and his Wild Axes). It is, in my opinion, plagiarism to just feast upon the ideas of another.

NoThlnG · 08-26-2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klok

You should credit the people who suggested those skills to hit invisible units originally (ramomar and his Wild Axes). It is, in my opinion, plagiarism to just feast upon the ideas of another.

This isn't a plagiarism. ramomar's idea is to buff Rexxar in general while this idea is to "standardize" whole skills. It has basically different idea.

Ok, I've included ramomar for making a thread for Wild Axes

R.B.Economy · 08-26-2009, 03:37 AM

I t-up to the idea, but only for magical aoe. Wild Axes are physical, so logically it should not hit invisible units.

NoThlnG · 08-26-2009, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eethn

I t-up to the idea, but only for magical aoe. Wild Axes are physical, so logically it should not hit invisible units.

Quill spray is physical but it hits invis units.

So does blade fury.

Even cleaving attack can damage invisible enemies

So why not?

Sykik · 08-31-2009, 04:06 AM

T-up.5char

Dejaime · 08-31-2009, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazedBlossoms

Wahaha, I'd like to see Scream of Pain hitting invisible units. >

That's not the case, if you pay attention her scream of pain sends a "green circle path" targeted at every enemy inside the AoE, not like standard AoE skills. So, how would she be able to "target" invisible units?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eethn

I t-up to the idea, but only for magical aoe. Wild Axes are physical, so logically it should not hit invisible units.

Think with me:
You are wearing your special invisibility pajamas and I am holding my .45
I shoot a bullet right through your head (lucky me, I couldn't see ya).
It passes right through without making any damage to you, well, physical bullets wouldn't (logically, as you said) hit something I can't see.

For the suggestion, a big and wealthy :tup: for ya!

NoThlnG · 08-31-2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejaime

That's not the case, if you pay attention her scream of pain sends a "green circle path" targeted at every enemy inside the AoE, not like standard AoE skills. So, how would she be able to "target" invisible units?

Yeah, I've put it on exception

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejaime

Think with me:
You are wearing your special invisibility pajamas and I am holding my .45
I shoot a bullet right through your head (lucky me, I couldn't see ya).
It passes right through without making any damage to you, well, physical bullets wouldn't hit something I can't see.

For the suggestion, a big and wealthy :tup: for ya!

Nice example. I LOL'ed at it

08-24-2009, 04:16 AM	#1
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08-24-2009, 04:47 AM	#2
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08-24-2009, 10:37 AM	#6
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08-26-2009, 02:23 AM	#14
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