[COSMETIC/LICH] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual

thoby123 · 08-25-2009, 09:45 AM

Currently the Lich has huge-ass 'Snowball' attachments on his hands that, while thematic and awesome, seem over-the-top for a freshly spawned hero. There was another suggestion to change this, but it seems most people disagree as they are used to the Icy Hands. For good reason, as it's been there for ages and thus quite classic. Even so, embrace chance I say

As such, here's an alternative base:

(the Nerubian Tower missile, also the missile used by Skadi)

(comparison with suggestion on left, current version on right)

(movement- leaves a nice ice trail!)

And then the big Frostwyrm attachment can be used with Scepter to give Lich the badass upgrade he needs

As per normal for visuals, screenshots don't do it justice so please see it ingame using the testmap!

Cp6uja · 08-25-2009, 09:47 AM

He sure do needs some ice at his hands. Really nice. Support!

Siraraz · 08-25-2009, 09:50 AM

I've always hated that giant frost ball on his hand, it was too big and distracting.

The Observer · 08-25-2009, 10:18 AM

Nice idea, me support.

DuKKY · 08-25-2009, 10:43 AM

i support this but is their not a way to give lich like frost wings?? .. there is a model with black wings im sure some colour changes would not be a problem

thoby123 · 08-25-2009, 11:53 AM

Erm well IMO it doesn't look good, but if you want an example, here. Even got a pic with Lich+it there.
On topic anyone else wanna refine this further? Like providing a proper testmap, mine's not too good.

Siraraz · 08-25-2009, 12:06 PM

Yours is fine.
(I added in wings)

The Observer · 08-25-2009, 12:16 PM

wings are too low, it's in his hips not his shoulder blades.

thoby123 · 08-25-2009, 12:22 PM

Thanks for the addition, but not gonna make it part of this suggestion cause it's way too overboard IMO. next thing you know people suggest corpses shattering into ice fragments from his power

doomsheep · 08-25-2009, 12:35 PM

good stuff.

MurazorOFAngmar · 08-25-2009, 04:10 PM

T-up this looks amazing

ResQ · 08-25-2009, 04:37 PM

Awesome. We need that! :3

Nerevarie · 08-25-2009, 04:55 PM

yes, we do need it

NoThlnG · 08-26-2009, 12:00 AM

From the comparison, it is clear that what you suggest is far much better

Definitely T-Up

Kanashimi · 08-26-2009, 12:04 AM

Naah, i didn't like it. Just look really... Strange :S

T-Down

EseQueL · 08-26-2009, 09:00 AM

I support...

thoby123 · 08-26-2009, 10:20 AM

Thanks for all the support!

My last niggling problem with this is how the effects 'explode' on attack/spellcasting, only to return a second later. While I know Sphere (the wc3 base ability I used for this visual) has options to restore the attachment almost instantaneously, I'd rather there be no effects 'death' at all. Any ideas?

Siraraz · 08-26-2009, 10:45 AM

I like the death, it looks pretty when you stand on the cliff at Roshan and you try to attack when your allies are attacking but you can't, so then SFX spams on Lich xD

sonson619 · 08-26-2009, 11:46 AM

The upgraded one looks more powerful, making it easy to see the aghanims effect.T-Up.

doomsheep · 08-26-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thoby123

Thanks for all the support!

My last niggling problem with this is how the effects 'explode' on attack/spellcasting, only to return a second later. While I know Sphere (the wc3 base ability I used for this visual) has options to restore the attachment almost instantaneously, I'd rather there be no effects 'death' at all. Any ideas?

its done by adding the effects with triggers.

08-25-2009, 09:47 AM	#2
Cp6uja Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Serbia Posts: 19,052 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual He sure do needs some ice at his hands. Really nice. Support! __________________ Increase DotA Speed Free Steam game PDIH RGC Dotalicious-Gaming Increase DotA speed for about 10 fps here. Want fast and stable DotA? Go here! Team Fortress 2 is now FREE TO DOWNLOAD! How to join is here under How to Apply/Join. League with Reconnection Tool, Stats tracking, no Leavers and multiaccounts. CLICK

08-25-2009, 09:50 AM	#3
Siraraz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 1,751 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual I've always hated that giant frost ball on his hand, it was too big and distracting.

08-25-2009, 10:18 AM	#4
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,629 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Nice idea, me support. __________________ Having a DotA 2 beta key is like being given a zombie cure. The mindless begging ends, along with the lack of social interaction with anyone. It's like you're all just there for the key, but once you get the key, the pain subsides and you get a little warmer inside.

08-25-2009, 10:43 AM	#5
DuKKY Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,140	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual i support this but is their not a way to give lich like frost wings?? .. there is a model with black wings im sure some colour changes would not be a problem __________________ PROUDLY A CREATORS GUILD MEMBER CERTIFIED S.R.T MEMBER My hero creations My Remakes Access all this Here

08-25-2009, 11:53 AM	#6
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Erm well IMO it doesn't look good, but if you want an example, here. Even got a pic with Lich+it there. On topic anyone else wanna refine this further? Like providing a proper testmap, mine's not too good.

08-25-2009, 12:16 PM	#8
The Observer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Starton Manila. Posts: 5,629 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual wings are too low, it's in his hips not his shoulder blades. __________________ Having a DotA 2 beta key is like being given a zombie cure. The mindless begging ends, along with the lack of social interaction with anyone. It's like you're all just there for the key, but once you get the key, the pain subsides and you get a little warmer inside.

08-25-2009, 12:22 PM	#9
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Thanks for the addition, but not gonna make it part of this suggestion cause it's way too overboard IMO. next thing you know people suggest corpses shattering into ice fragments from his power

08-25-2009, 12:35 PM	#10
doomsheep Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,592	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual good stuff. __________________ I don't know how this happened.

08-25-2009, 04:10 PM	#11
MurazorOFAngmar Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, CA Posts: 4,890 Blog Entries: 21	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual T-up this looks amazing __________________ IGosu Us.East Dota since 2002 - RoC - Warcraft since 1997

08-25-2009, 04:37 PM	#12
ResQ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4,567 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Awesome. We need that! :3

08-25-2009, 04:55 PM	#13
Nerevarie Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Never say my anus again. Posts: 1,846 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual yes, we do need it

08-26-2009, 12:00 AM	#14
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08-26-2009, 12:04 AM	#15
Kanashimi Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,254	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Naah, i didn't like it. Just look really... Strange :S T-Down __________________ ~Kanashimi X Kanashimi~

08-26-2009, 09:00 AM	#16
EseQueL Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ernas Posts: 555	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual I support...

08-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#17
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual Thanks for all the support! My last niggling problem with this is how the effects 'explode' on attack/spellcasting, only to return a second later. While I know Sphere (the wc3 base ability I used for this visual) has options to restore the attachment almost instantaneously, I'd rather there be no effects 'death' at all. Any ideas? __________________ Bottle fame, brew glory- A guide to the underloved, underestimated Alchemist. Now comes in semi-Premium quality! Currently trapped in study limbo, spastic activity for now SUGGESTIONS: Give Lich jazzhands! Alchie needs a new Greed! Pit o' Malice needs more pizzaz! Flesh Golem/Tombstone makeover anyone? Upgrade Complete! Newbie-friendly commands! Make BH's Wind Walk synergise! Make Gnoll a Gnoll! IMPLEMENTED: Give Dirge some real disease!

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08-26-2009, 10:45 AM	#18
Siraraz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 1,751 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual I like the death, it looks pretty when you stand on the cliff at Roshan and you try to attack when your allies are attacking but you can't, so then SFX spams on Lich xD

08-26-2009, 11:46 AM	#19
sonson619 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,117	Re: [Lich] - Hand attachments/Scepter visual The upgraded one looks more powerful, making it easy to see the aghanims effect.T-Up. __________________ Without order* nothing can exist, without chaos nothing can evolve*