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Old 04-06-2010, 01:29 PM   #1
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can give us the best 4v4 or 5v5 combo??
what heroes to ban and what heroes to be picked??

a combo to defeat this line up:
riki,sven,traxex and lina..

hoping to have the best response..
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:32 PM   #2
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can give us the best 4v4 or 5v5 combo??
what heroes to ban and what heroes to be picked??

a combo to defeat this line up:
riki,sven,traxex and lina..

hoping to have the best response..
CM+Slardar, Tinker, Broodmother

But basically everything works. They have only one powerful lane.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:40 PM   #3
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Game Strategists unite!

Sven, Lina OR CM at top if Sent, bot if Scourge, maybe a PotM at mid and a carry + pusher at top.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:42 PM   #4
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Game Strategists unite!

Sven, Lina OR CM at top if Sent, bot if Scourge, maybe a PotM at mid and a carry + pusher at top.
The other team already has Sven and Lina
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hmm.. Slardar, Slark, Zeus and any random hero..
lol I'm not good at this..
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Its a very weak lineup actually,
could be easily countered by slardar venge, razor, doom rylai/wl
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Old 04-06-2010, 03:47 PM   #7
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yeah that's right
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:43 PM   #8
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just insert the appropriate hero on this theory


A pusher, A ganker, A support/initiator, A carry
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Sladar - To counter riki, counter Sven's armor buff and make everyone really easy to kill.
WD - To own on the lane with Sladar.
Razor - so he can drain Sven's damage and tank some stuff while carrying.
Pugna - to prevent one of the enemy carries from attacking in an important fight and also
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:54 PM   #10
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May I suggest:
1. -random
2. -random
3. -random
4. -random
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:59 PM   #11
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Slardar
Rasta
magina
Root

Combo2 :

Tide
Root
Enigma
Shaker
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yeah that's right
Then I don't get what's the point of this thread. You already agree that the 4-hero lineup you mentioned is weak.

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Sladar - To counter riki, counter Sven's armor buff and make everyone really easy to kill.
WD - To own on the lane with Sladar.
Razor - so he can drain Sven's damage and tank some stuff while carrying.
Pugna - to prevent one of the enemy carries from attacking in an important fight and also to counter Lina.
Slar gonna stand behind his team and make sure everybody is amped nicely before he goes into battle?

WD / Pugna = Snacks for a double silence + double aoe stun team?

Razor --- I do hope that he gets a hood before lina gets level 6, and a vang + ogre axe at level 7.

WL would be a silly choice as riki is a superb diffusal carrier, even tho he might help babysit.

IMO, a diffusal carrier to counter sven. IMO, Dazzle (meka+necrobook), WR (hood+diffusal), Tiny (what else..), FV (no MOM pls).
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:14 PM   #13
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Guys can you please analyze 5v5 combos. Lets try this.
Beat:
Sentinel's side

Sven (bot)
Lina (bot)(roaming)
Crystal Maiden (bot)
Nevermore (mid)
Storm Spirit (top)
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:27 PM   #14
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hmm.. Slardar, Slark, Zeus and any random hero..
lol I'm not good at this..
Wait wait wait wait.

You're part of the competitive staff, but you're bad at line-ups?

What is up with this website?
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You could try:

Slardar, Shadow Fiend, Warlock, Lancer, KOTL.

Warlock has a massive AoE one second stun, where Fiend can ulti them, and possibly KOTL can cast Illuminate.

Lancer and Slardar finish off.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:42 PM   #16
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The other team already has Sven and Lina
lol this just goes to show I never read the OP ;3
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:57 PM   #17
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Guys can you please analyze 5v5 combos. Lets try this.
Beat:
Sentinel's side

Sven (bot)
Lina (bot)(roaming)
Crystal Maiden (bot)
Nevermore (mid)
Storm Spirit (top)
Anti Mage
Magnuss
Pugna
Dark Seer
Enigma.

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Moved to Strategy

One of the more interesting and Entertaining line-ups

Huskar + Magina Bot
Morphling
Lina + SandKing ToP

But there's no BEST line-up

however you can try to do something like

4 stunners

Slardar
TwinheadDragon
Leshrac
SandKing

Lion
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:39 PM   #19
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Wanna try something fun?

Slardar/Dazzle/ShadowFiend/Enigma/Magnus (can sub witht tide I guess cause hes still not available in cm)

Slardar/Dazzle lane together. Magnus/tide/sf can take solo or solo the dual lane np, with enigma jungling. SF and Engima hold the game together till mid (if youre having trouble with that enigma can always lane) and then the armor reduction of dazzle and slardar witht he dps of sf/magnus/tide (as if tide requires positioning!) plus positioning of enigma allows easy ults for magnus and sf as well. Pretty lulzy if there are 4 blink daggers but tbh I don't think slardar will be requiring one.
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CM Slardar
Razor
Medusa
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Alchemist
Medusa
Skeleton King
AXE
Abaddon
Try to kill them while they are pushing
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furion brood treant... any other super super super pushers possibly undying and tree a good tank and gank and push

it rapes in a few minutes
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Combo2 :

Tide
Root
Enigma
Shaker
This is awful tbh, you're lanes suck.
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Alchemist
Medusa
Skeleton King
AXE
Abaddon
Try to kill them while they are pushing
And how are they supposed to push? Axe + aba clear creeps and the rest watch?

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Guys can you please analyze 5v5 combos. Lets try this.
Beat:
Sentinel's side

Sven (bot)
Lina (bot)(roaming)
Crystal Maiden (bot)
Nevermore (mid)
Storm Spirit (top)
Supposedly you get sven cm and storm, something like wd + cent + to face your trilane, roaming veng, mid dusa and top something like na/invoker.
wd + cent.
dusa.
na/invoker. (veng roam)
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Techies - Mid
Dark seer - Tot
kunnka - Bot
CM - Top
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ok I have no experience of competitive play but I have something in mind
PL-bot
ES-roaming
Morphling-mid
Broodmother-top
Undying-top
Or
Lion
Slardar
WD
Storm
Pugna

Extra
Is there a guide in banning and/or Picking????
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PL going to have a hard time soloing unless he's me.

and top lane is weird as hell.
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can give us the best 4v4 or 5v5 combo??
what heroes to ban and what heroes to be picked??

a combo to defeat this line up:
riki,sven,traxex and lina..

hoping to have the best response..
Please do note that there might be suggestions that you already read/know.

Base on their heroes I am assuming that they are on the scourge side. With lanes such as:

Top - Riki
Mid - Traxex
Bot - Sven + Lina (or maybe a roaming Lina and occasionally ganking Mid.)

Hero Suggestions:

Your team is on sentinel's side.

Top - Broodmother (capable of pushing, and soloing with less risk due to her Web Spin.)

Mid - POTM (solo-ed potm for a more open ganks. Brood has a slow/Slardar & Lion has disables to ensure arrows. POTM is also a good candidate for Diffusal Blade, I think it counters Sven's God Strength.)

Bot - Slardar + Lion (I think mana drain can help when being more on the defensive side and a free hex for going on the offensive side.)

Other options:

Furion (Bot) - maximizing pushing and an ability to gank anyone in the map. Sprout also forces them to buy QB/Tango assuming that Lina is not always around.

Enigma (Bot/Jungle) - maximizing pushing and helps a lot in team fights.

I hope this helps.

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Guys can you please analyze 5v5 combos. Lets try this.
Beat:
Sentinel's side

Sven (bot)
Lina (bot)(roaming)
Crystal Maiden (bot)
Nevermore (mid)
Storm Spirit (top)
Maybe this line-up will do:

Scourge:

Top - NA if available
Mid - Medusa
Bot - Witch Doctor + Yurnero
Roaming - Veno

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sentinel

top: broodmother
mid: mirana
bot: sven vengeful lion

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What do you think about team-noob?

-troll (die in first wave of stuns)
-riki (ksing)
-luci (ulti and run)
-slark (die in the 2nd wave of stuns)
-morph (20 hp because dmg>hp and 50 min PMS)
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furion brood treant... any other super super super pushers possibly undying and tree a good tank and gank and push
it rapes in a few minutes
insert lycan instead of treant. his wolves are quite strong paired with treants and howl.

ezalor tinker chen necro or undying are also good lane controller/pusher.
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May I suggest get some skill. Trax will be farming till late game. Sven, lina and riki will be gank crew. Sladar or gondar will eat riki and lina all day every day. Any other hero with 2 disables can take out sven long enough for the rest of your gank crew to take him out.

If you have a sladar or gondor they should be able to get to enemy bush or lane to kill drows farm and escape from harms way
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As you see your enemy lineup has Drow (Hard-Carry) riki,lina,sven are gankers so they lack of good support utility and a semi-carry if drow is unable to farm you can win the game so u must ban good supports like VS,CM,WD,Lich or pick for your self also ban good semi-carry like potm,Slardar,Alchi etc now If u want a combo here it is

First Go for 1-1-3 combo there is no hero in above lineup that handles tri-lane easily and too solo heros

Combo 1

Slardar(Semi-Carry)+VS(Supporter)+Lion(Ganker) Bot in Scourge and Top in Sentinal

WR(Utiliy) Solo other side lane

Morph(Hard-Carry) solo mid

Combo 2

BH(Ganker)+Rhasta(Utility)+WD(Supporter) Top in Sentinel and Bot in Scourge

DP(Semi-Carry) Solo Mid

Sniper(Hard-Carry) Solo other side lane

*Note in my second combo Sniper is too fragile for all 3 gankers u mentioned but if he play safe also your bounty hunt down riki and drow WD help him in ganks also Rhasta and DP take the towers quickly so sniper can earn easy money also bounty's track allows sniper to cast assassinate on fleeing hero if he went in to the fog.

*In my first combo VS,Slardar and Lion roam and Hunt for riki and drow both Slardar Amplify on riki while VS has swap so she can swap any 3 fragile hero except sven near Slardar to send him to Death also Lion can easily eliminate anyone of the above target.Slardar must farm Blink+BKB so prevent him from being disable also allow him some intiation,WR and Morph Pushes the MultiLane WR also play as DPS role and Morph is a deadlist monster and Hard to Knockdown by these heros.
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AM, silencer, BS, slardar and morph
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can give us the best 4v4 or 5v5 combo??
what heroes to ban and what heroes to be picked??

a combo to defeat this line up:
riki,sven,traxex and lina..

hoping to have the best response..
why theres only four heroes????ok nvm,ES,AM,BM,Warlock

1)AM>Lina(AM has higher spell resist and skillset to destroy mana),Traxex(AM become effective faster than traxex as a carry imo)
2)ES(Synergizes well with AM,AM can weave in and out at the battlefield no matter if any crevasse if present while the lineup u put up with can't,at last cannot cope very well.
3)BM=Maphack Hawk,good necro user,overall good hero
4)Warlock=Fatal bonds to destroy 3 of the heroes you listed.
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