[ITEM] Zeppelin toy

[Skizzm]

An idea I just got for a movable ward of sorts.

ZEPPELIN TOY

(A toy goblin teenagers use to spy on the opposite sex)

300





Bought from Goblin shops

ABOUT

A small flying unit used for spying on enemies territory.
Zeppelin Toy has:
• 300 HP
• 10 armor
• 300 Move speed
• 1500 sight range
• 1000 Fuel (mana?) (cannot be replenished)
• Cloak (toggle) - Zeppelin Toy has a special Cloaking device that uses up Fuel in order to work. While active, Cloak burns 2 fuel per second
• Zeppelin can remain stationary without using up fuel (unless cloaked). It spends 1 fuel per 100 distance traveled.
• If Zeppelin's fuel becomes depleted it is destroyed

OPTIONAL SKILL (need input)
Rune Restoration - Basically what this skill would do is, allow the toy to use runes, Regenerating 50 hp and fuel over 3 seconds (the rune is spent).
This would allow for some more playability of this item, and a nice counter to opponent's team getting that rune before you do, if it's a must.

[WhatIsEasyMode]

Err what? Im pretty sure it'd die fast. = Waste of 300 gold. + Wards are better.

[Light-Coke]

Originally Posted by WhatIsEasyMode

Err what? Im pretty sure it'd die fast. = Waste of 300 gold. + Wards are better.

While wards are very good and effective, they are binded to certain location untill they vanish. This can really move and Scout, somewhat similar idea to Nerubian Weaver's old Watchers ability, giving "a free maphack" in some sense. But since you have only one of them, it really narrow that down. And they aren't invisible all the time.

So if you'd want to check out whether enemy jungles or not, you don't have to run there, drop a ward and wait to see him, only to say "Yeah, he jungles". You can check it out with the Zeppelin, while being able to play your Hero normally.

Kinda like Crow, but with less cost and no item-uses.


Also, Mana amount can be changed.

[Drikam]

(A toy goblin teenagers use to spy on the opposite sex)

Nice toy. xF

[Drikam]

He can travel all around the map. Furions teleportatino has a 99999 casting range. Zep can travel up to 100,000 units. Thats a lot. It will die before it runs out o fuel. More survability.

[Light-Coke]

Originally Posted by Drikam

He can travel all around the map. Furions teleportatino has a 99999 casting range. Zep can travel up to 100,000 units. Thats a lot. It will die before it runs out o fuel. More survability.

Yea but you don't necessarily fly to 1 direction untill you die. Most likely you will do a chatotic zig-zag trying to locate ganking enemies. With such a movement, you can run out of fuel in pretty small AoE.

[Drikam]

I know. But the point is, you can fly in a chaotic way very long. And this is codeable if some1 asks. ^^


Maybe add like 100-200 health.. And add an self-repair ability. Uses mana ofc, and u cant move while repairing.

[DuKKY]

Rofl this idea is pretty sweet but wards are better

[Drikam]

Hmm, better than wards? I dont think so.

For now, it has no cooldown. Which means, its better than wards. It lasts a minmum of 3.33 minutes (whiel being invisible and being able to move, wtf!!).

This is fucking better than wards. It can also stand still for 500 seconds. This is an imba ward with NO cooldown. U can cloack it for 500 seconds. Remember..

Simply an IMBA ward. Simple math, dont say its worse.. lol.

More armor, similar sight (?), more hp, lasts longer, no cooldow, can move. For now, its much better than ward.

[DuKKY]

yeah ok i see your point but think about it ..wards are cheaper and you get 2 of them.. its not really nessesary to have this .. but i still think its a cool idea

[chadpiety123]

Giving it another purpose will be nice. >.<. At least that way, it'll have a distinction with observer wards

[kings.empire]

How about making it explode, thus releasing a chemical compound the goblins cooked up that slows units in the AoE of the explosion?

[Light-Coke]

Originally Posted by chadpiety123

Giving it another purpose will be nice. >.<. At least that way, it'll have a distinction with observer wards

LETS GIVE HIM INVENTORY AND... wait.

[AbyssPetra]

give it an ability that carries anything in owner Circle of Power . IMBA CHICKEN.
well maybe it shares the samething in Circle of Power. Like Meepo Style.

[Skizzm]

Well all the numbers can be changed, I just threw them out there from the top of my head. Also I added vision right now (have in mind it's unobstructed vision, unlike wands, because it's a flying unit after all).

Originally Posted by chadpiety123

Giving it another purpose will be nice. >.<. At least that way, it'll have a distinction with observer wards

It's dynamic, where wards are static. This alone would make it played completely differently than wards (just like gem vs dust vs sentry wards). Also, unobstructed vision.
However adding another activated ability could be ok? I was thinking about a true sight burst that costs a lot of mana, but figured there are already enough things with true sight in dota.
Also giving it ability to carry items

Originally Posted by DuKKY

yeah ok i see your point but think about it ..wards are cheaper and you get 2 of them.. its not really nessesary to have this .. but i still think its a cool idea

Once you set up those two wards somwhere, there's no going back. With Zeppelin Toy you can roam around at any time. In a short period of time you can check a rune spot, roshan and jungles, while never leaving your lane or getting your (expensive) courier in danger. Also you can (try to) keep it stationary and visible, thus prolonging its duration.

[HELLRAISER]

i like it. just as long is still revealed by wards etc

[bajzs]

I think this is a great idea and i think you shall work on it abit more.

[DuKKY]

Originally Posted by Skizzm

Well all the numbers can be changed, I just threw them out there from the top of my head. Also I added vision right now (have in mind it's unobstructed vision, unlike wands, because it's a flying unit after all).


It's dynamic, where wards are static. This alone would make it played completely differently than wards (just like gem vs dust vs sentry wards). Also, unobstructed vision.
However adding another activated ability could be ok? I was thinking about a true sight burst that costs a lot of mana, but figured there are already enough things with true sight in dota.
Also giving it ability to carry items


Once you set up those two wards somwhere, there's no going back. With Zeppelin Toy you can roam around at any time. In a short period of time you can check a rune spot, roshan and jungles, while never leaving your lane or getting your (expensive) courier in danger. Also you can (try to) keep it stationary and visible, thus prolonging its duration.

uhm ofc theres no going back with wards because they in a specific spot for a reason for anti gangs and such

[Skizzm]

Originally Posted by HELLRAISER

i like it. just as long is still revealed by wards etc

of course

Originally Posted by DuKKY

uhm ofc theres no going back with wards because they in a specific spot for a reason for anti gangs and such

The toy however can fulfill the same purpose, and then it can also follow an enemy it detects if needed. I wasn't trying to merely state the obvious, but rather explain why I think the toy is just as good (or perhaps superior to) as wards.

[Avathacis]

As long as we can spy the opposite se... team it works for me.