Permanent Invisibility

kanzakill · 04-11-2010, 02:10 PM

Changelog

Stealth - (Passive)

__________

Enemies can't see Rikimaru unless he's in front of them.

__	____.	________.	_______.	___.	_______.	__________________________.
	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	Enemies can't see Rikimaru unless he's in an angle of 90 degrees in front of them
2	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	Enemies can't see Rikimaru unless he's in an angle of 70 degrees in front of them
3	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	Enemies can't see Rikimaru unless he's in an angle of 50 degrees in front of them

Notes:
• Fade time: 0.5
• Attacking doesn't break invisibility.
• Rikimaru will not auto attack enemies.
• If Rikimaru is silenced this ability will be disabled.

IAmTheSpoon · 04-11-2010, 02:13 PM

Give a good reasoning for this, or you'll get flamed by those less understanding ^^

flieskiller · 04-11-2010, 02:22 PM

oohh imba...
increase mind games, synergise with backstab and blink strike...
t-up

Fate Trap · 04-11-2010, 02:33 PM

I dunno i think the nerf is more than the buff Null for this one... But still wont appear is a big thing hmmm..

jesusatan · 04-11-2010, 03:48 PM

Terrible nerf for low skilled players.
Huge buff for high-skilled ones.

Dynes · 04-11-2010, 05:33 PM

Holding vote.
Check for codeability...

SMMN · 04-11-2010, 05:57 PM

t-up

bababoom · 04-11-2010, 06:14 PM

turning around is not a real maneuver in warcraftiii. so ppl will have to be running all over the place to search for riki. nah

Maigi · 04-11-2010, 06:17 PM

so let me see if I get this
The degree angle you mean, is like a straight line of sight in front a hero that may detect rikimaru and decreases as he levels this ability?
Or is it like this:

Level one area of detection: \ /
Level two area of detection: \ /
Level three area of detection: \/

Or: | |
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||

?

Schremba · 04-11-2010, 06:19 PM

Is there a fade time when leaving the sight field? And do creeps reveal, too?

FearTheBeast · 04-11-2010, 06:46 PM

This is just retarded... it's PERMA INVIS, not "if-im-kinda-infront-of-you-then-you-can-see-me-but-if-im-on-the-side-you-cant-invis". t-down.

Sgt Failure · 04-11-2010, 07:55 PM

Wich is the facing of wards?

Ontopic: I really don't think that riki needs such a drastic change. He is fine, but still a pubstomper. How would this be coded? And also, how long is the range? Wrong coded you could just have a courir at base seeing all over the map.

Jakino · 04-11-2010, 08:02 PM

this is very imba

Isual · 04-11-2010, 08:34 PM

t-up

l0r4k · 04-11-2010, 10:18 PM

Too imba.

SN0W37 · 04-12-2010, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynes

Check for codeability...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt Failure

How would this be coded?

It would be coding by periodically checking for everything enemy unit with 1800 of riki (the max sight range) and checking the angle between riki and that unit. If the angle is +/- 60 (or something close to this angle) then remove the invisiblity ability from riki.

Thats basically how you would code it, you could also make it more advanced by indexing all the sight ranges fo every unit in the game and changing the AoE to that for every different unit.

NoThlnG · 04-12-2010, 05:41 AM

Attacking doesn't break invisibility

Hell, no. Why do you want to make riki another nightcrawler?

Hyde_Kouru · 04-12-2010, 05:56 AM

this buff will really mess up pub game...T-D

Nerevarie · 04-12-2010, 06:04 AM

T-down in dooms ninja mat there is gondar with such a spell and he is too imba!

taenijim123 · 04-12-2010, 08:23 AM

aaaahhhhhhhhw, thumbs down, terrible

04-11-2010, 02:13 PM	#2
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04-11-2010, 02:22 PM	#3
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04-11-2010, 02:33 PM	#4
Fate Trap Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Where I live. Posts: 7,281 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Permanent Invisibility I dunno i think the nerf is more than the buff Null for this one... But still wont appear is a big thing hmmm.. __________________ PORTFOILO CLAIM IDEAS Click to see my portfolio.

04-11-2010, 03:48 PM	#5
jesusatan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Permanent Invisibility Terrible nerf for low skilled players. Huge buff for high-skilled ones.

04-11-2010, 05:33 PM	#6
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,853 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Permanent Invisibility Holding vote. Check for codeability... __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.

04-11-2010, 05:57 PM	#7
SMMN Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 242	Re: Permanent Invisibility t-up

04-11-2010, 06:14 PM	#8
bababoom Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 987	Re: Permanent Invisibility turning around is not a real maneuver in warcraftiii. so ppl will have to be running all over the place to search for riki. nah

04-11-2010, 06:17 PM	#9
Maigi Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 61	Re: Permanent Invisibility so let me see if I get this The degree angle you mean, is like a straight line of sight in front a hero that may detect rikimaru and decreases as he levels this ability? Or is it like this: Level one area of detection: \ / Level two area of detection: \ / Level three area of detection: \/ Or: \| \| \| \| \|\| ?

04-11-2010, 06:19 PM	#10
Schremba Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,051	Re: Permanent Invisibility Is there a fade time when leaving the sight field? And do creeps reveal, too? __________________ Improve DotA's Terrain Improve Visage's Gravekeeper's Cloak Change the model of the Shop/Protectorate

04-11-2010, 06:46 PM	#11
FearTheBeast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas (fml, right?) Posts: 132	Re: Permanent Invisibility This is just retarded... it's PERMA INVIS, not "if-im-kinda-infront-of-you-then-you-can-see-me-but-if-im-on-the-side-you-cant-invis". t-down. __________________ + = RAPE!

04-11-2010, 07:55 PM	#12
Sgt Failure Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,717	Re: Permanent Invisibility Wich is the facing of wards? Ontopic: I really don't think that riki needs such a drastic change. He is fine, but still a pubstomper. How would this be coded? And also, how long is the range? Wrong coded you could just have a courir at base seeing all over the map. __________________

04-11-2010, 08:02 PM	#13
Jakino Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,250	Re: Permanent Invisibility this is very imba

04-11-2010, 08:34 PM	#14
Isual Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 109	Re: Permanent Invisibility t-up

04-11-2010, 10:18 PM	#15
l0r4k Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Poznan,Poland Posts: 1,977	Re: Permanent Invisibility Too imba. __________________ [SIGPIC UNDER CONSTRUCTION /troll] Do you like -so? Yes No __ I LOVE YOU!

04-12-2010, 06:04 AM	#19
Nerevarie Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Never say my anus again. Posts: 1,846 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Permanent Invisibility T-down in dooms ninja mat there is gondar with such a spell and he is too imba!

04-12-2010, 08:23 AM	#20
taenijim123 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 135	Re: Permanent Invisibility aaaahhhhhhhhw, thumbs down, terrible __________________ the thing that makes you say he is a good player: is that you're a noob yourself....