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Old 04-12-2010, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Spawn Spiderlings vs. Ghost Scepter


Why doesn't Spawn Spiderlings damage ethereal targets?
I know one answer could probably be "Blizzard coded Parasite that way". But is there any logical answer (like Clogons explanation about FoK using enhanced damage thus not damaging ethereal units)?

And btw: It seems like the initial damage of Shadow Strike doesn't deal any damage to ethereal targets as well. Is that true and if yes, why?

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Nice update to the guide. However, Enhanced damage can be reduced by Spell resistance! It totally depends on the attack type it uses. For example, Cleave uses At: Hero and thus is not reduced by Spell resistance, however Poisons and Fan of Knives (yes Fan of Knives uses Enhanced and not Universal) uses AT: Spell and is therefor reduced by spell resistance but is still blocked by Ethereal form and, however, will damage Magic Immune units.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:13 PM   #2
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€ detected a huge amount of fail in this post. Do not cross.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:33 PM   #3
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Default Re: Spawn Spiderlings vs. Ghost Scepter

That's what I thought too, but unlike e.g. heat seeking missiles spawn spiderlings does not damage magic immune targets (did not test shadow strike though).
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: Spawn Spiderlings vs. Ghost Scepter

wtf is parasite initial damage?
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:57 PM   #5
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Default Re: Spawn Spiderlings vs. Ghost Scepter

Parasite only does damage over time which should be AT: Spells, DT: Poison: Enhanced ( This damages magic immune but it's applied after buffs is applied ( So Spiders spawn with Spawn Spiderlings damage ) but buff cannot be applied to Magic Immune units so there is no way that you can damage Magic Immune units with Spawn Spiderlings in DotA )

Shadow Strike initial damage: AT: Spells, DT: Poison: Enhanced (Damages Magic Immune)

Shadow Strike damage over time: AT: Spells, DT: Shadow Strike: Magic (Doesn't Damage Magic Immune)
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:38 PM   #6
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wtf is parasite initial damage?
Good call, confused it with another ability
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Old 04-12-2010, 04:51 PM   #7
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Parasite only does damage over time which should be AT: Spells, DT: Poison: Enhanced ( This damages magic immune but it's applied after buffs is applied ( So Spiders spawn with Spawn Spiderlings damage ) but buff cannot be applied to Magic Immune units so there is no way that you can damage Magic Immune units with Spawn Spiderlings in DotA )

Shadow Strike initial damage: AT: Spells, DT: Poison: Enhanced (Damages Magic Immune)

Shadow Strike damage over time: AT: Spells, DT: Shadow Strike: Magic (Doesn't Damage Magic Immune)
ิี but being ethereal isn't being magic immune

it must be something like can't place this buff on ethereal unit?
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Old 04-12-2010, 04:59 PM   #8
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ิี but being ethereal isn't being magic immune

it must be something like can't place this buff on ethereal unit?
Read the quote in OP's quote.

DT: Poison doesn't damage ethereal units.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:06 PM   #9
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all sort of poison excluding shadow strike-based one?
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:44 PM   #10
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all sort of Physical buffs, to be more correct
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:26 PM   #11
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Default Re: Spawn Spiderlings vs. Ghost Scepter

Poison Nova is a physical buff but it doesn't use DT: Poison. Naming the base abilties in W3 that uses DT: Enhanced;

Poison Sting
Parasite
Shadow Strike ( initial )
Envenomed Weapons
Cleave
Fan of Knives
Pulverize
Slow Poison
Disease Cloud
Unsummon Building D:
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