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Old 04-16-2010, 04:42 PM   #1
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Default [Tweak] Last Word


the current is
Silencing a enemy unit for 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 Seconds once they casted a spell


My Suggestion is to make this skill more annoying in teamfight *below*

Silencing everyone is the AoE when an enemy unit casted a spell
also with some rebalancing numbers
Lv1= 1 second
Lv2= 1.4Seconds
Lv3= 1.8Seconds
Lv4= 2.2 Seconds

this way silencer will become alot more annoying for the enemy's team

Any thoughts?
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:44 PM   #2
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Too imba, t-down
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:49 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

its imba but i have something to say
many heroes have only one spell to cast which makes this skill pretty useless since they will be silenced during their cooldown.but its good idea,let silencer get constantly banned in CM modes
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:50 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

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its imba but i have something to say
many heroes have only one spell to cast which makes this skill pretty useless since they will be silenced during their cooldown.but its good idea,let silencer get constantly banned in CM modes
Name one hero that has 1 active (other than leo <.<)
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

Viper,Drow Ranger,Spirit Breaker,(he will use charge miles away and use his ult under radius of last word)Meepo(as far as i know silencer only silence one of them so earth bind can be spammed) Lone Druid,and some others

plus they dont have to have 1 active spell,for example tide hunter dont need to use gush(1st skill) in team battles he will use his ult
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

^ Meepo: One of them? It will silence all if they're in the AoE.

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T-down, nice idea, but not plausible. The only other way you could do this is by lowering the silence further or lowering the AoE by a lot. But both these will make the skill useless.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:50 AM   #7
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

T-down. But I hope Ice will rescale LW's duration to 1/2/3/4.

EDIT: Cleared post.
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:45 AM   #8
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t down
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:20 AM   #9
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:14 AM   #10
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

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this way silencer will become alot more annoying for the enemy's team
And this way Silencer will attract more fire from the enemies.

Too imba for my taste. You either decrease the cooldown or decrease the duration. A clash could be easily won with Silencer if this is the case.

Actually this could also nerf Last Word a bit. Because it actually doesn't matter if one hero casts a skill and silences the whole team since if they cast a skill they'll be silenced and if another enemy casts a skill they'll be silenced too. Considering the fact that the main target of Last Word are those chain nukers/supporters/low cooldown spells and the like.

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Old 04-17-2010, 09:03 AM   #11
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His last word is fine imo
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:11 AM   #12
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

but the number can be tweaked though

maybe 0.3/0.6/0.9/1.2 ??
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:22 AM   #13
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

That would make it too weak . I don't think there's any way of balancing this.
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:59 AM   #14
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

current is fine..what needs remaking is CotS
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:33 PM   #15
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makes sense...makes silencer a very good pick..!!
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:01 PM   #16
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

When last word is under effect, combo chain stun still occur during a gank on silencer.

VS stun silencer and get silenced 3 second, which is fine. Now another one lion stun again. After silence 3 seconds, a finger of death lash out and killed silencer.

Silencer is extremely weak in surviving a gank. So i give this skill, T-UP
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:35 PM   #17
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

Maybe add AOE effect too it for 0,25; 0,5; 0,75 and 1,00. But then the AOE must be decreased too to someting like 600.

T-down for orginal idea.
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:25 PM   #18
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

3 seconds or 2.25 , it's annoying early but nt late as the current one
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:29 PM   #19
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

The only way I can think of a balanced AoE last word is if last word itself had a cd. Like AoE silence for 1 second on a 2s cd. Then the enemy has some time to cast. Letting the enemy team cast a total of three spells in a team fight is way, way overpowered.
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:57 AM   #20
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Default Re: [Tweak] Last Word

I somehow can't figure a way out when Silencer got ganked by 2-3 stunners
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