Chaos Knight Nesaj - items

Phosis · 08-29-2009, 05:44 PM

What is the item built for haos knight plz?

I was thinking of:
Bracersx2
Ring of basilius
Treads/BoT
Helm of dominator
Radiance

or

Bracersx2
Arcane
Treads/BoT
Sange & Yasha or Manta
Heart

Is it good or something better??

supaplecs · 08-29-2009, 05:53 PM

1. Treads
2. Perseverance -> BF
3. Dominator -> Satanic
4. Gauntlet
5. Gauntlet
6. Tp scroll

you should be owning

ILUVFOOD · 08-29-2009, 05:57 PM

I'm a huge fan of Vanguard, so I think I would probably get one. I'd probably go S&Y and then hyper> AC. And maybe if you can get your ias up, a basher. I think a shivas would be fun also.

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Do not waste your time with a BF.

doomsheep · 08-29-2009, 06:11 PM

SnY if youre owning, bkb againist disables, Maelstrom if you need more steady dps. heart is good luxury.

anyway, core is just bracers and treads. thats all that really matters.

Viceroy · 08-29-2009, 06:19 PM

Treads/Phase - Bracer - Armlet - Manta - Deso - Heart/Butter

Cp6uja · 08-29-2009, 06:36 PM

Core
Optional
After
DO NOT BUY THESE

Explanations: PT Str and 3 bracers are all applied to you and your illusions, thus giving you 532Hp and 28dmg to you and Illusions also. Plus, illusion gain agility and you have bigger mana pool.

Manta is for additional ownage and confusing enemy. Also, all +stats are applied to illusions.

Heart is no brainer.

Bottle is if you are ganking all the time.

Rejected items: Vlads gives you 0/nothing/zero. Its a complete waste of gold for small lifesteal which only works on you (yes, illusions don't gain anything, its fake animation). Battle fury is also a mistake, since all illuisons gain NOTHING. Only you gain. Complete waste of gold. Same goes with HotD. Life steal only works on you, so all you've got is small lifesteal, nothing else.

5chneemensch · 08-29-2009, 07:12 PM

^ Right

I'm a huge fan of Diffusal on Nessaj for even more ganking power

JaCKaSS_69 · 08-29-2009, 07:15 PM

Diffusal CK has to be one of the easiest heroes to chase/kill with.

Cp6uja · 08-29-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackLagoon

^ Right

I'm a huge fan of Diffusal on Nessaj for even more ganking power

Yeah, forgot it. Fixed now.

ps. Nice table, isn't it?

Phosis · 08-29-2009, 08:21 PM

Thnx for the help guys

I'll go for:
Bracerx2
Ring of basilius
Perseverance(is this necessary? - might be at the start)
BoT/Treads
Manta
Heart
Radiance

qlq · 08-29-2009, 08:47 PM

^That should probably do it.
Cp6uja explained it all nicely, there really isn't much to add

Have fun! =)
Pers will generally delay your other items but if you feel there's a need to get one you can go ahead.

Viceroy · 08-30-2009, 03:16 AM

My build is far superior to cp6uja's.

kanzakill · 08-30-2009, 03:20 AM

Seems like I have the weirdest build in this thread

MKB+Thread+Cuirass+Vanguard. End game

Sometimes Manta

kawumm · 08-30-2009, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomsheep

SnY if youre owning, bkb againist disables, Maelstrom if you need more steady dps. heart is good luxury.

anyway, core is just bracers and treads. thats all that really matters.

LOLWAT

on topic: hes right about the core. afterwards its a good idea to rush a HOT since ur images benefit the most from it. armlet also not too bad, remember to activate it before split. sny is ok. bkb not that great on nessaj imo, but situationally its needed. the quoted post would actually be a decent advice... if it wouldnt be for the maelstrom o.O

edit: wow that fancy post with pictures just caught my eye.. ye bottle is good, close to core on CK. forgot that :S i personally dislike diffu on him, the purge is nice but not needed, the manaburn isnt all that great on his images since theyre more for towerrazing than anything else, the agi.. doesnt hurt but.. yea. str would be better :P manta isnt terrible, but id rather buff the awesome images he has than adding gimped ones. heart before it imo. didnt try new one on him yet though.

off topic: reduced CD on his ult would be nice and simple buff. agreed?

Viceroy · 08-30-2009, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Treads/Phase - Bracer - Armlet - Manta - Deso - Heart/Butter

the best

EternityPala · 08-30-2009, 03:49 AM

Armlet + Bottle + Desolator

doomsheep · 08-30-2009, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kawumm

LOLWAT

well it obviously wasnt my first idea of an item, but one game i just thougth i needed some as and damage and since other orbs are bad on me anyway i made it and guess what - it worked.

try it.

Phosis · 08-30-2009, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viceroy

Treads/Phase - Bracer - Armlet - Manta - Deso - Heart/Butter

Well sorry to say, but am kind of a newbie to Dota.

Eveytime i've been using armlet, it drains my life away, how will armlet help me when it drains my life away???

EternityPala · 08-30-2009, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phosis

Well sorry to say, but am kind of a newbie to Dota.

Eveytime i've been using armlet, it drains my life away, how will armlet help me when it drains my life away???

Do not simply leave it on forever.
It has a deactivate, and activate for a reason.
Turn it on only when ganking, or when you require the additional damage.

Viceroy · 08-30-2009, 06:10 AM

There are so many answers to that question.

It gives you AND your images a huge damage boost, and for the first 13 seconds you actually have MORE health than you otherwise would, and your illusions permanently gain +25 strength providing you activate it before you split.

08-29-2009, 05:44 PM	#1
Phosis Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 312	Chaos Knight Nesaj - items What is the item built for haos knight plz? I was thinking of: Bracersx2 Ring of basilius Treads/BoT Helm of dominator Radiance or Bracersx2 Arcane Treads/BoT Sange & Yasha or Manta Heart Is it good or something better??

08-29-2009, 05:53 PM	#2
supaplecs Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 676	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items 1. Treads 2. Perseverance -> BF 3. Dominator -> Satanic 4. Gauntlet 5. Gauntlet 6. Tp scroll you should be owning

08-29-2009, 05:57 PM	#3
ILUVFOOD Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 302	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items I'm a huge fan of Vanguard, so I think I would probably get one. I'd probably go S&Y and then hyper> AC. And maybe if you can get your ias up, a basher. I think a shivas would be fun also. ---------- Post added at 11:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:56 AM ---------- Do not waste your time with a BF.

08-29-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
doomsheep Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items SnY if youre owning, bkb againist disables, Maelstrom if you need more steady dps. heart is good luxury. anyway, core is just bracers and treads. thats all that really matters.

08-29-2009, 06:19 PM	#5
Viceroy Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 158	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items Treads/Phase - Bracer - Armlet - Manta - Deso - Heart/Butter

08-29-2009, 07:12 PM	#7
5chneemensch Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hohenkirchen, Germany Posts: 7,516	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items ^ Right I'm a huge fan of Diffusal on Nessaj for even more ganking power __________________ My DotA2 inventory.

08-29-2009, 07:15 PM	#8
JaCKaSS_69 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,136	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items Diffusal CK has to be one of the easiest heroes to chase/kill with. __________________ 98% of people have no idea of mechanics, if you are one of the 2% nerds put this in your sig

08-29-2009, 08:21 PM	#10
Phosis Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 312	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items Thnx for the help guys I'll go for: Bracerx2 Ring of basilius Perseverance(is this necessary? - might be at the start) BoT/Treads Manta Heart Radiance

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08-29-2009, 08:47 PM	#11
qlq Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the abyss of the unknown Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items ^That should probably do it. Cp6uja explained it all nicely, there really isn't much to add Have fun! =) Pers will generally delay your other items but if you feel there's a need to get one you can go ahead. __________________ removed due to severe case of butthurt

08-30-2009, 03:16 AM	#12
Viceroy Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 158	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items My build is far superior to cp6uja's.

08-30-2009, 03:49 AM	#16
EternityPala Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,586	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items Armlet + Bottle + Desolator

08-30-2009, 06:10 AM	#20
Viceroy Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 158	Re: Chaos Knight Nesaj - items There are so many answers to that question. It gives you AND your images a huge damage boost, and for the first 13 seconds you actually have MORE health than you otherwise would, and your illusions permanently gain +25 strength providing you activate it before you split.