Gem of True Sight

[kanzakill]

Gem of Sight

	Drops on death
True Sight	Gives True Sight in 1100 AoE
Obscurity	Completely prevents enemies in 250 AoE from seeing its owner if its owner is invisible
	Completely prevents enemies in 250 AoE from seeing allied units in 400 AoE if they are invisible

[kerempeng17]

invisible heroes will completely overpowered
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[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by kerempeng17

invisible heroes will completely overpowered
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Dust of Appearance completely doesn't exist.

[justsightseeing]

use a invisible-counter item as an unrevealed-invisible item? seems not right for me..

[Monsterlord]

Lawl at ever trying to melee riki again.

[kanzakill]

Whatever.

[Wimpex]

unfair, disbalanced
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[Subway]

Too many conditions but Gem could use a rework. Maybe as simple as the DR rework. If you put it in your inventory it's stuck to you. If it drops it cannot be destroyed. However, IF is not blind to these possibilities because of DR.

The cosmetic change from treasure chest to a green jewel mixed it up by blending with the environment. Allowing you to tuck it away somewhere nicely before you perish or enemy simply forgot you had and dropped it.

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[kanzakill]

Originally Posted by Wimpex

unfair, disbalanced

Unfair?
Right word, wrong context.

[yankstar]

If an invisible hero gets this how will you kill him? You won't. its too dam good

[Subway]

Kanza don't be a grammar nazi in your suggestion thread! I wanna see you think your idea through by countering the public sediment. If not to better your suggestion to make this thread entertaining.

[BiH-Kira]

T-down.
Unneeded.

[Subway]

You're unneeded bakeera

[permafrosty]

lol like why is this needed? its not like invis heroes who carry gem reveal themselves.

[kanzakill]

I wasn't talking about grammar but anyway, you're right. I should have explained a bit more.

One of the reason why I prefer DotA over other Wc3 maps (namely DDay) was that for anything there is, there's always a counter to it.
And what can heroes with invisibility do to counter gem and wards?

"Gank him and you will be fine"? Nah, gank him and everything will be fine. But seriously, there must be another way to counter them. It doesn't have to be a full counter, so a partial counter is enough.

With this remake, heroes with invisibility will have a chance to take advantage of the terrain in order to approach gem carriers or wards without being seen, which make the warding war more hilarious.

Unfair? Imba?

Attack/cast spell and you break invisibility
Dust completely exist
250 range isn't safe enough to protect you from AoE nukes and stuns
Clashes don't often occur in areas with many blockades