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I think as a concept this hero doesn't belong in DotA.
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He is a support Hero. I will add later synergy with heroes and skills. For now i will mention that, His first skill is his farm tool and with combination with 2nd and 3rd skill he can do considerable dps to kill a hero early game. Later all his skills are purely support and addition dps for the team. Example, Centaur blink in, malfurion cast his Violent Rejuvenation skill for aoe dps so centaur gets additionally targeted as tank. You channel Tree of Life Power skill to support the team from some distance as heal and minor dps since the waves will jump all over but also urgently rush in to cast Ultimate which is purely a full 5vs5 team gang skill as you rush in and try to heal your team. Ultimate can also be used as escaped mechanism but will require some skill since you get slowed by 60% once you reach targeted location. Nature's Judgement can be used in synergy to all above as single target urgent heal, to save an ally, your self or kill/briefly slow a run away enemy Hero.
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Malfurion = Furion. IMO needs a different model and name to start, way to close to prophet.
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The model is different, maybe at wc3 is the same guy but thats irrelevant. You got any model suggestion or name?
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umm 4 heals ........ ok np with that
3 of them which damage enemies .... not so ok 2nd skill is really imba pure damage ftw .... if u want him considered ... add somthing unique .. ulti is cool ( WoW much?) btw furion ( malfurion) has a brother .... its illidan .. so lorewise its not working
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Are my skills not unique? Who other hero have the skills(or skill set or even execution) that i suggest? 3 of them damage, but the damage is low and complex to achieve, except from 2nd skill which only scales up at late game to be any good. He have low natural damage. He in, NO way, can be a "hero" killer or even a ganker, just supplementary dps to team and good supporting healing. Many Heroes have pure dmg(example enchantress, at autoattack even) I have never played WoW nor that i intent to, i watched a friend of mine play once and find it total crap + the monthly fee concept is hilarious for me. There is Tranquility in ladder, but just the theme is same with my proposal. The story can be changed, name also, but this is dota, he is who we say he is
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1st skill : Well on demand . Null 2nd skill : Purge and pure damage. null / t-down 3rd skill : ur target becomes a walking necro :S ima imagining necro with this :S t-up/ null 4th skill: null/ t-up . good idea im all for implementing a hero solely used for healing, but work on it. maybe u should change 2nd or third skill to somthing that has to do with mana . maybe a passive that increases his mana for every target healed??? or sumthing like that since the mana costs are pretty big
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You are null on this? One could say, its pugna's life drain w/o the drain, dazzles healing that jumps on allied units but w/o the AoE damage on each jump, zeus arc lighting that have long range and and jumps on enemies and its active like witch doctor's voodoo restoration. Yeah, seen it before.
Yeah, this is like, the healing of Chen, but single target, but it also scales with % its like, just pick any with %base, and additionally you can use it to damage like omni purification since is healing, but not on AoE as you can't heal with it and damage all around you and its like impetus, or arcane orb, since its pure damage. In addition is like a having a mini diffusal blade that don't work on summons with attack speed reduction, or better yet Razor's unstable current but not passive that activates on spell cast by enemies and won't give bonus move speed. EXACTLY the same with something. Quote:
![]() Common now, thats the best you can do? Thats exactly the same as, Surge but you can't cast it on others, and its like omnislash of yurnero that goes invisible briefly, and its like Luna's Eclipse that you can do actions after cast it, but that won't damage or be slow while casting and its like upheaval's AoE but without the slow and the channeling. Further more is like a healing, well just pick any healing will do, and its over time, like heart of tarrasque but not item, its time based and its not %base healing over time. Verdict: seen it before too. Quote:
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p.s It just stroke me, is it possible 90% of dota skills to have an element of some other skill? not sure need to check it out. p.s2 i will really consider the mana thing you said, looks promising.
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It's quite different though. The cloth (not cloth actually) color and this one rides a kind of goat... For second skill, damage shouldn't be poor since it already deals quite a lot of damage + MS and AS slow....
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*UPDATE*
*-Tweaked 2nd skill, to deal no Pure damage, increased the +dmg by a bit. (*)Latest Update
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![]() ok now we got the problems : here are some statistics : number of heroes mentioned in last post : 11 number of spells mentioned in last post: 15 or 16 not sure items mentioned : 2 number of thw word "like" used in last post : 14 ...........facepalm......... Quote:
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other thank that this skill is abbadons heal + diff blade when used on enemy again its a remix not an original song. Quote:
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I wouldn't think that is possible for someone not to spot the sarcasm, yet you did. Anyway i will be more plain for you
. I disagree.
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about the story
first, that doesnt respect the warcraft lore...malfurion = furion second, we all are tired about "someones master" or "someone's bro" (PA and venge, terrorblade and magina, ...) about the hero he is pretty imba, tought...not original concept... jumping healing/damaging spells(but chanelling...GREAT DIFFERENCE), chuck norris nuke, wiht AWESOME damage and AWESOME SLOW, dps-shield...(ion shell with heal?), tranquility from wc3...(its an awesome spell...mayeb it could pass, but that would be thanbks to blizzard, and not thanks to you xD) |
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OK, if you say so. I already explained by position, read above.
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He is not really, but numbers can be tweaked You mean he is a healer and we already are healers? Quote:
Chuck Norris Nuke? Lets analyze this. Your enemy is lvl8 so lets say about 1000 life. 12%*1000=120 + 180 = 300, -75 from basic magic resistance of a hero=225 damage, is that chuck norris nuke? Cause i know better non ulti ones. But i can proply change the numbers if needed, but is like he is only real dmg. And slow... its 2seconds slow. Thats it, i can change it to 1.5seconds, but as i dont see feedback coming out of your post, just trolling i wont bother for now. Its a buff on a hero that acts like a radiance and heal the target for tank enhancement. Dps is pathetic to even compare the 2. Quote:
I stand at my position of a full healer Hero. Now skills and stuff can change but i want all his skill to have a healing aspect, big or small. His damage is not of any real value. If you bother analyze the skills you will see he will do most of his dmg through skills and very little autoattacking. If my numbers suggest that he is hero killer(altho i highly doubt it) I can lower them down. EDIT: Here i nerfed the 2nd and 3rd skill
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Tarvallon, The Ancient Healer
"Tarvallon ist the long forgotten Brother of Illidan and Furion. Never seeking after any fame Tarvallon retreated himself into the deepest forest studying the secret healing techniques of the ancient ghosts watching over the World Tree. When the Burning Legion attacked Ashenvale, chopping down his beloved trees and wiping out his old teachers, Tarvallon decided that its about time to use his power to stop the Scourge at any cost." Well if someone could rewrite this into better English, I would be really thankful. Im not fully satisfied with that story, but thats just model. Hope you like it =) |
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*UPDATE*
-Changed name and story, credits goes to Wh1sper
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change ghosts to wisps .. in the story
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4 heals o.O or nukes o.O wow..
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Done
Hehehe, close but not actually Its 1.5 Nukes + 1.5 Damage over time=3 damage skills which can be healing too. the 0.5 is the channeling! Ultimate is just healing
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