[Gameflow] Animal Courier

[Milli]

Animal Courier

Disclaimer: This suggestion is purely gameflow and shall not change the game balance. Any changes to game balance are meant to be caught with triggers.
Currently if you get an Animal Courier you get an item which you have to use to get the courier.
My suggestion is that you don't get an item, but the unit directly. The result is that the 1 inventory slot and 4 clicks:

• Chimera Roost/Graveyard
• Animal Courier
• Hero
• Animal Courier in item form

you currently need to get the chicken are reduced to 2 clicks:

• Chimera Roost/Graveyard
• Animal Courier

Reasons:

• No inventory space required
• Fits flavourly (a living animal stored in your inventory?)
• Less clicks needed
• You can't forget to use it carrying it around with you all the time

Note:
If you want to get a Flying Courier from your inventory (Animal Courier in item form + Recipe) it currently requires 6 clicks:

• Chimera Roost/Graveyard
• Animal Courier
• Supportive Vestments
• Flying Courier Recipe
• Hero
• Flying Courier in item form

No difference with my suggestion:

• Chimera Roost/Graveyard
• Animal Courier
• Supportive Vestments
• Flying Courier Recipe
• Animal Courier
• Transform

(only 4 with my suggestion for the Flying Courier.)

If you liked this suggestion please also take a look at my suggestion for the Flying Courier - they suit very well.

@mods: Feel free to add a poll or whatever when certain is how the suggestion-system works here.

[Nonok]

Both poll options are T-up... >_>

I'll vote T-up though once the poll is fixed. Great idea. Hope both of your suggestions get implemented. I'm all for less clicking.

[fluturasul_bea]

good idea. . .suport

[teamgary]

yeah less clicks

[Pascal3000]

Except this would allow you to buy a chicken whenever you want to, which destroys the concept of a support hero being forced to get it early on. You trade off a little bit of your money for the advanced item mobility and stronger lane control. Live with it.

T-DOWN.

[kousokurakka]

You shouldn't be able to buy the chicken whenever you want. An alternative is to make it turn into an egg that hatches after a certain length of time or if it is used in the inventory. It still doesn't sit well with me that you don't have to leave the lane, though.

[Milli]

Originally Posted by Pascal3000

Except this would allow you to buy a chicken whenever you want to, which destroys the concept of a support hero being forced to get it early on. You trade off a little bit of your money for the advanced item mobility and stronger lane control. Live with it.

T-DOWN.

Originally Posted by kousokurakka

You shouldn't be able to buy the chicken whenever you want. An alternative is to make it turn into an egg that hatches after a certain length of time or if it is used in the inventory. It still doesn't sit well with me that you don't have to leave the lane, though.

It's probably 1 line of code to make chicken not aviable until a hero is in the base.

Just use the lower thumbs up for thumbs down, that's the way I meant it.
Am I allowed to use the "report" function to have a mod edit my poll? (That's the way it were @DA)

[Nonok]

Originally Posted by Pascal3000

Except this would allow you to buy a chicken whenever you want to, which destroys the concept of a support hero being forced to get it early on. You trade off a little bit of your money for the advanced item mobility and stronger lane control. Live with it.

T-DOWN.

I didn't think about this... but I agree with OP, it cant be hard to make it not available until your hero is in the base.

[Milli]

Originally Posted by Nonok

I didn't think about this... but I agree with OP, it cant be hard to make it not available until your hero is in the base.

Let's just leave the balancing to IceFrog and vote on concept.
Always remember, suggestions can be tweaked or clarified, votes cannot.

[fruta]

nice idea but there is one disadvantage:
-a bit imbaness since you can produce a courier even you're not in your base.

[zylick]

as i understand there will be icon of courier at the right top,where the icon of hero?
if y-ofc sup

[Milli]

Originally Posted by juLizen

nice idea but there is one disadvantage:
-a bit imbaness since you can produce a courier even you're not in your base.

Originally Posted by Milli

It's probably 1 line of code to make chicken not aviable until a hero is in the base.

Anyways, the poll seems to be gone (at least it doesn't show for me) and I'm not able to add a new one. (Do you see it?)
The poll problem is outdated since the mods went poll nuking.

[Anderkent]

Well, the imbaness can be fixed easily.
Instead of spawning a ready courier, spawn a courier recipe, order the buyer to pickup it and use immidiately
Same way normal items are spawned then ordered to be picked up.

[Siritoss]

t-up if it can be bought only when you are in base.

[fruta]

Originally Posted by Anderkent

Well, the imbaness can be fixed easily.
Instead of spawning a ready courier, spawn a courier recipe, order the buyer to pickup it and use immidiately
Same way normal items are spawned then ordered to be picked up.

yeah you should apply this in that item <3

[JJE92]

If this is codeable, why not. Definetely Tup, this is a very good change, I nearly always support less cklicks.

[leetlee]

i vote that as a good suggestion just because if you have complete control of your lane you dont want to have to run back for items, but if you're killing your opponent in the lane they are getting to go back to base for their items :P

if this were to be changed you could buy a chicken from your lane and use it to run to you whenever you have need for it.

[Anderkent]

Originally Posted by leetlee

i vote that as a good suggestion just because if you have complete control of your lane you dont want to have to run back for items, but if you're killing your opponent in the lane they are getting to go back to base for their items :P

if this were to be changed you could buy a chicken from your lane and use it to run to you whenever you have need for it.

umm thats exackly what we want to avoid.

[Milli]

Originally Posted by Anderkent

Well, the imbaness can be fixed easily.
Instead of spawning a ready courier, spawn a courier recipe, order the buyer to pickup it and use immidiately
Same way normal items are spawned then ordered to be picked up.

Exactly that's because the "items" in DotA aren't really items, but powerups. (Item -chicken recipe- on ground when the user is not in the base, item in inventory -chicken spawned- when the user is in the base.)

[Zero(PS)]

really nice suggestion.. sometimes I'm distracted and forget to activate the chiken so it's really annoying..

i'd like this.. T-Up.