[ITEM] Necromancer's Cape

shayayalee · 05-07-2010, 04:31 AM

Necromancer's Cape (2800)

The wearer of this cape clings on to life.

+10 strength
+10 armor
Prolong life (passive)

Prolong life
If you would receive lethal damage, your life is set to 75.
Any damage source exceeding 225 damage (after reductions) ignores this ability.
Cooldown: 7

Recipe:

Ogre Axe (1000)

Plate Mail (1400)

Recipe (400)

Total: 2800

Credits:
-Mr.Goblin for the icon

anonymus-萃香 · 05-07-2010, 06:10 AM

This is actually a good passive concept
But the price is kinda imbalance, either increase the recipe list or add a recipe
Overall it's great but prolong life name is kinda suck, maybe something like Undead or Survival Spirit

Shadow Fury · 05-07-2010, 06:11 AM

Abaddon would be so imbalanced with this.

Rizenix · 05-07-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Fury

Abaddon would be so imbalanced with this.

Well said. Let's take a look at Abaddon.
HP is full and is decreasing because of tanking while using Blade Mail
HP at below 400 = Borrowed Time takes place(Aghanim-ed so it's 7 seconds)
HP regenerates after being healed by Borrowed Time.
HP being decreased again from tanking Round 2.
HP is left at 50 and might be able to leave the battlefield safely since there's this imba cape.

Maybe make it that Abaddon CAN'T use this.

jesusatan · 05-07-2010, 08:18 AM

Add a recipe please !

Yendor · 05-07-2010, 08:19 AM

I don't get why this would be imba.

50 HP is ONE hit of any hero.
and the excample with abbadon:
in your case he has a whooping 50 HP more. this will only result in less last hit kills, as the target would be outside of range, but well. magic stick does the same.

jesusatan · 05-07-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Yendor

magic stick does the same.

Yeah, you are right. It also gives you mana, which can save your life in some cases. So totally t-down for this item.

shayayalee · 05-07-2010, 10:33 AM

I strongly disagree that this item would be imba. As said, it's only one hit more. This item would be most useful on situations you are running and the enemy has only one long range nuke left to kill you, or you are juking the enemy and waiting for that stun cd. Since the ability is not that strong I don't see a reason for recipe, at least not a very expensive one.

Darth pogi · 05-07-2010, 10:55 AM

So, how does it work?

shayayalee · 05-07-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth pogi

So, how does it work?

Not really sure how it is best coded, but I hope it will work as described, any time you receive damage that would kill you, it ignores the damage and sets your hp to 50.

FruitLord · 05-07-2010, 07:35 PM

Basically if you get culling bladed or laguna zapped or zeus zapped this saves you. I really like this concept. More narrow escapes ftw.

SN0W37 · 05-08-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shayayalee

Not really sure how it is best coded.

It would be coded the same way as shallow grave is, by using a triggered heal and then setting the target units health to 50.

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Originally Posted by FruitLord

Basically if you get culling bladed or laguna zapped or zeus zapped this saves you.

This item wouldn't stop culling blade as it deals too much damage.

Twenty Eight · 05-08-2010, 03:46 PM

I'd LOL if a Zeus wastes his ultimate on this.
And well, although it's just 50 hp, 10 seconds seems a tad too short.
Perhaps 13?

And lol@pokemonfocusbandconcept!

shayayalee · 05-14-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

I'd LOL if a Zeus wastes his ultimate on this.
And well, although it's just 50 hp, 10 seconds seems a tad too short.
Perhaps 13?

And lol@pokemonfocusbandconcept!

You have plenty of time for getting killed in 10 seconds

Audacious · 05-15-2010, 08:43 AM

So a one hit shallow grave?

Like it but think the concept is way more valued early on.

Also make the hp 1 and not 50.

Should not work on ulties.

Make the item way cheaper?

Fisteon · 06-15-2010, 09:45 AM

T-UP completely!!! Great item, i like the concept!!
@ those who think this is OPed -> 99% of its life-saving will be in situation when u are running away, and someone throws a last hit on you... 1% should stay for dumb ulties such as zeus's or furion's...

[P]rokatdn · 06-15-2010, 10:30 AM

This concept will kill Zeus's ulti

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shayayalee · 06-15-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by prokatdn

This concept will kill Zeus's ulti

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It will not kill Zeus's ulti, it weakens it a bit for sure, but so does vitality booster or bracer or whatever that gives you more survivability.

cp14 · 06-15-2010, 11:09 AM

a nerf on all none nukers. No mor LAguna kills, no more instapwn with scythe, no more assassinate, no more dagon. yes it would be only 1 hit more but those precious finishers are no longer finishers.

Torchic Maniac · 06-15-2010, 12:38 PM

It will be too weak in some cases (some DPS hero whales on you or some DoT skill poisons that, that extra one hit won't save you there) but it can be OMGWTF imbalance on other skills (Zeus will cry if they got this item because they won't fear his ult as well as Lina/Lion players as their finishing move won't kill until the passive has always been used).

T-null

I just don't think there will be a good medium for this item.

05-07-2010, 04:31 AM	#1
shayayalee Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 532 Blog Entries: 1	[ITEM] Necromancer's Cape Necromancer's Cape (2800) The wearer of this cape clings on to life. +10 strength +10 armor Prolong life (passive) Prolong life If you would receive lethal damage, your life is set to 75. Any damage source exceeding 225 damage (after reductions) ignores this ability. Cooldown: 7 Recipe: Ogre Axe (1000) Plate Mail (1400) Recipe (400) Total: 2800 Credits: -Mr.Goblin for the icon __________________ Check out: My Suggestions Bump:

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05-07-2010, 06:10 AM	#2
anonymus-萃香 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 422	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape This is actually a good passive concept But the price is kinda imbalance, either increase the recipe list or add a recipe Overall it's great but prolong life name is kinda suck, maybe something like Undead or Survival Spirit __________________ GENERATION 22:The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

05-07-2010, 06:11 AM	#3
Shadow Fury Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Draining Your Life Juice. Posts: 10,187 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape Abaddon would be so imbalanced with this.

05-07-2010, 08:18 AM	#5
jesusatan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 3,042 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape Add a recipe please ! __________________

05-07-2010, 08:19 AM	#6
Yendor Forum Staff Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 6,728	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape I don't get why this would be imba. 50 HP is ONE hit of any hero. and the excample with abbadon: in your case he has a whooping 50 HP more. this will only result in less last hit kills, as the target would be outside of range, but well. magic stick does the same. __________________ None of my responses are meant as an offense to any of you Suggestions Other things (NO Chuck Norrises) 1. swap stout and poormans shields name 2. give cycloned units flying vision 3. Shareable Items, let them be noticed 4. [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys (make them groundtargetable) 5. Aegis and the shopping mall [Not the usual] 1. There's a wordfilter in all signatures 2. Boots of Elvens Kin or Elven Skin? That's for you to decide.

05-07-2010, 10:33 AM	#8
shayayalee Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 532 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape I strongly disagree that this item would be imba. As said, it's only one hit more. This item would be most useful on situations you are running and the enemy has only one long range nuke left to kill you, or you are juking the enemy and waiting for that stun cd. Since the ability is not that strong I don't see a reason for recipe, at least not a very expensive one. __________________ Check out: My Suggestions Bump:

05-07-2010, 10:55 AM	#9
Darth pogi Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 257	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape So, how does it work?

05-07-2010, 07:35 PM	#11
FruitLord Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 742	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape Basically if you get culling bladed or laguna zapped or zeus zapped this saves you. I really like this concept. More narrow escapes ftw.

05-08-2010, 03:46 PM	#13
Twenty Eight Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 97	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape I'd LOL if a Zeus wastes his ultimate on this. And well, although it's just 50 hp, 10 seconds seems a tad too short. Perhaps 13? And lol@pokemonfocusbandconcept! __________________

05-15-2010, 08:43 AM	#15
Audacious Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the world Platon doesn't believe in. Posts: 5,603 Blog Entries: 10	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape So a one hit shallow grave? Like it but think the concept is way more valued early on. Also make the hp 1 and not 50. Should not work on ulties. Make the item way cheaper?

06-15-2010, 09:45 AM	#16
Fisteon Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape T-UP completely!!! Great item, i like the concept!! @ those who think this is OPed -> 99% of its life-saving will be in situation when u are running away, and someone throws a last hit on you... 1% should stay for dumb ulties such as zeus's or furion's...

06-15-2010, 10:30 AM	#17
[P]rokatdn Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Việt Nam Posts: 1,843 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape This concept will kill Zeus's ulti . __________________ My portfolio

06-15-2010, 11:09 AM	#19
cp14 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: suramar Posts: 1,663 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape a nerf on all none nukers. No mor LAguna kills, no more instapwn with scythe, no more assassinate, no more dagon. yes it would be only 1 hit more but those precious finishers are no longer finishers. __________________ Awesome and Eyecatching avatar removed due to popuular demand BARA CLUB

06-15-2010, 12:38 PM	#20
Torchic Maniac Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 643 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [ITEM] Necromancer's Cape It will be too weak in some cases (some DPS hero whales on you or some DoT skill poisons that, that extra one hit won't save you there) but it can be OMGWTF imbalance on other skills (Zeus will cry if they got this item because they won't fear his ult as well as Lina/Lion players as their finishing move won't kill until the passive has always been used). T-null I just don't think there will be a good medium for this item. __________________ Suggestion Review Status: CLOSED