Lina build? (skill+item)

KuroNeko · 05-07-2010, 06:52 AM

Well I've only played this hero once to some success, but I'd like some advice. I saw a video on lina with euls+dagger. In the game that I played, I went 9-6. I only laguna'd to shut down troll, stop luna's ult, or gib a runner.

Skills:
-LSA
-DS
-DS (because DS is more reliable)
-LSA
-DS
-Laguna
-DS

Items:
-tangoes/clarities/wand/branches/gauntlet
-boots
-sobi & RoR
-stick--> wand, gauntlet--> bracer
-euls
-str treads (I was squishy...)
-dagger
-guinsoo
-that's as far as I got, they gg'd it a few min after.

Holes in my build? Tips? Advice? etc.

LightburneR · 05-07-2010, 06:58 AM

Skill build is alright.

My personal preference for items are Bottle, Aghan, Dagger, Boots/Threads (depending on game), Wand, Bracers/Nulls (if I need the mana/hp)

Refresher works pretty good (you have a way to use that +40 damage) if its dragging on verrrry late and you need to Semi-Carry.

Guinsoo, Forcestaff, Eul, Orchid, ROB/VO, Ghost Scepter, Blademail, Urn, Dagon (if you can farm it up early), Shiva etc. etc.. Depends on the game. Situationally useful.

BOT and Phase are also viable.

Courier/Wards/Dust if noone else gets it.

As a general rule of thumb, I take Aghan though. I don't like dying very much.

(I think Lothar is shit on her >___________>)

PandamannD · 05-07-2010, 08:35 AM

Get Blink, never foce staff

Kouganei · 05-07-2010, 08:40 AM

Put 1 level of LSA it has low scaling damage and increases manacost per level up but the stun duration doesn't increase.

1nF · 05-07-2010, 11:02 AM

You should have gotten BoT for better ganking and farming. All linas should do it unless they are used as wardbitches. Other than that everything is fine. If being squishy was your main problem you could have compensated it with stats after LSA and DS are maxed out and getting Fiery Soul later (probably you did so as you have not specified).

Heeg · 05-07-2010, 11:15 AM

Why did you get a RoR?
Were you roaming or making a lane inhospitable to the enemy?
Did you have an ally who could back you up after you dagger'd (or that ally going in first, ES/Sven/Tide)?
What were your enemies/allies?

Your skill build is just dandy, unless you had an ally with a reliable disable laning with you.

мusịĸ · 05-07-2010, 12:18 PM

Ulti../LSA/Slave/Stats/Soul (amidoinitrite?) for skills for me usually, the reason why I level LSA over slave is that I'm pretty confident on landing it pretty much always and in my opinion it is very mana conservative to max it first if you can land it, that is.

As for items; Boots and wand are core. Optionals include wards, bottle, soul ring, urn etc.

As a luxury Eul's/dagger is a pretty solid choise, cheap'n'effective. If you are swimming in cash get that damn guinsoo.

Force staff is a good additino to your arsenal too, though I've yet to try that item out. I'm too stubborn when it comes to new items.
In pubs Dagon is also perfectly fine, ensures you double, triple kills. Laguna someone and use burst one someone else...

EDIT: As for boots upgrades; all three options are legit. Phase boots can help immensely in landing your spells if you don't have Dagger, treads provide extremely important str/int and BoT are a good late-game addition.

Kris · 05-07-2010, 12:43 PM

LSA:1,4,8,9
DS:2,3,5,7
FS:10,12,13,14
Ult:6,11,16

Items:

Wand
Bottle
Boots

Blink
Force

Always has been fun to play xD

Xmarksthegank · 05-07-2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nozumu-

Put 1 level of LSA it has low scaling damage and increases manacost per level up but the stun duration doesn't increase.

It is AoE, the damage increases moderately, and most importantly, if you skill it to max you'll get a skill that you can combine with dragon slave to clear out creepwaves much faster. Besides lina had a +5 starting int boost buff so mana is not as much of a problem anymore. It is a much better idea to skill it up for increased damage than it is to skill stats/fiery soul.

On a hero like Lina I would not set the builds into stone, dagon can be good, early BoT can be good, or sometimes you just stick to some Urn/Wand/Bottle/Treads and supportwhore.

hajasmarci · 05-07-2010, 01:10 PM

bloodstone/blink

Kris · 05-07-2010, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hajasmarci

bloodstone/blink

S&Y Vanguard

JerkCo · 05-07-2010, 03:10 PM

well most of this is right.
except few OBVIOUS SHIT TROLLS.
re topic:
skill build is alrite.
items...
i rather take wand/bottle over ror sobi.
burst regen counts for alot with lina.
after burst regen comes mobility i.e. forcestaff which i dont really like, blink, bot.
then comes disable i.e. euls/guinsoo
pretty much covers it. anything else is situational.
pick up a couple of bracers/treads if you ever find need to do so.
you wont need nuls becox of your rather high manapool.

bountyface · 05-07-2010, 06:50 PM

dagger->agh. get some teleboots in this bitch too and gank your face off.

niloy · 05-08-2010, 05:04 AM

Items:

Starting: 2 set of tangoes, 2 circlets, 1 gg branch

2 nulls :- so that you can pull off your entire 3 skill combo at lvl 6 and general skill spamming

Str Power treads:- Gives more HP, IAS goes well with Fiery soul, low cost

Point booster:- more HP and MP

Ghost scepter(situational):- if facing invi heroes(riki, clinkz, gondar) or physical dps (ursa, mortred, davion) and they are specifically targetting you

Aghahims scepter:- more HP, MP and imba ulti

Hex :- Disable + More MP/MP regen

By now, game should end.

05-07-2010, 06:52 AM	#1
KuroNeko Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Invoqwer Posts: 4,826 Blog Entries: 18	Lina build? (skill+item) Well I've only played this hero once to some success, but I'd like some advice. I saw a video on lina with euls+dagger. In the game that I played, I went 9-6. I only laguna'd to shut down troll, stop luna's ult, or gib a runner. Skills: -LSA -DS -DS (because DS is more reliable) -LSA -DS -Laguna -DS Items: -tangoes/clarities/wand/branches/gauntlet -boots -sobi & RoR -stick--> wand, gauntlet--> bracer -euls -str treads (I was squishy...) -dagger -guinsoo -that's as far as I got, they gg'd it a few min after. Holes in my build? Tips? Advice? etc.

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05-07-2010, 06:58 AM	#2
LightburneR Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 439	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Skill build is alright. My personal preference for items are Bottle, Aghan, Dagger, Boots/Threads (depending on game), Wand, Bracers/Nulls (if I need the mana/hp) Refresher works pretty good (you have a way to use that +40 damage) if its dragging on verrrry late and you need to Semi-Carry. Guinsoo, Forcestaff, Eul, Orchid, ROB/VO, Ghost Scepter, Blademail, Urn, Dagon (if you can farm it up early), Shiva etc. etc.. Depends on the game. Situationally useful. BOT and Phase are also viable. Courier/Wards/Dust if noone else gets it. As a general rule of thumb, I take Aghan though. I don't like dying very much. (I think Lothar is shit on her >___________>)

05-07-2010, 08:35 AM	#3
PandamannD Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 75	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Get Blink, never foce staff

05-07-2010, 08:40 AM	#4
Kouganei Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ‎(╯°□°）╯︵ HԀ Posts: 2,315 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Put 1 level of LSA it has low scaling damage and increases manacost per level up but the stun duration doesn't increase. __________________

05-07-2010, 11:02 AM	#5
1nF Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Riga, Latvia Posts: 766	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) You should have gotten BoT for better ganking and farming. All linas should do it unless they are used as wardbitches. Other than that everything is fine. If being squishy was your main problem you could have compensated it with stats after LSA and DS are maxed out and getting Fiery Soul later (probably you did so as you have not specified).

05-07-2010, 11:15 AM	#6
Heeg Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 364	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Why did you get a RoR? Were you roaming or making a lane inhospitable to the enemy? Did you have an ally who could back you up after you dagger'd (or that ally going in first, ES/Sven/Tide)? What were your enemies/allies? Your skill build is just dandy, unless you had an ally with a reliable disable laning with you.

05-07-2010, 12:18 PM	#7
мusịĸ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A million miles from home, I'm walking ahead. Posts: 4,421 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Ulti../LSA/Slave/Stats/Soul (amidoinitrite?) for skills for me usually, the reason why I level LSA over slave is that I'm pretty confident on landing it pretty much always and in my opinion it is very mana conservative to max it first if you can land it, that is. As for items; Boots and wand are core. Optionals include wards, bottle, soul ring, urn etc. As a luxury Eul's/dagger is a pretty solid choise, cheap'n'effective. If you are swimming in cash get that damn guinsoo. Force staff is a good additino to your arsenal too, though I've yet to try that item out. I'm too stubborn when it comes to new items. In pubs Dagon is also perfectly fine, ensures you double, triple kills. Laguna someone and use burst one someone else... EDIT: As for boots upgrades; all three options are legit. Phase boots can help immensely in landing your spells if you don't have Dagger, treads provide extremely important str/int and BoT are a good late-game addition. __________________ Apply this to all my replies\|Twitter\|Woodkid in all his glory; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is a waterfall\|My YouTube Channel\|Realized by Kakkun!

05-07-2010, 01:10 PM	#10
hajasmarci Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 5,384	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) bloodstone/blink __________________ Sent from my Chrome Canary.

05-07-2010, 03:10 PM	#12
JerkCo Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: DotA2Beta Posts: 1,578	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) well most of this is right. except few OBVIOUS SHIT TROLLS. re topic: skill build is alrite. items... i rather take wand/bottle over ror sobi. burst regen counts for alot with lina. after burst regen comes mobility i.e. forcestaff which i dont really like, blink, bot. then comes disable i.e. euls/guinsoo pretty much covers it. anything else is situational. pick up a couple of bracers/treads if you ever find need to do so. you wont need nuls becox of your rather high manapool. __________________ Just a bit evil

05-07-2010, 06:50 PM	#13
bountyface Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,277	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) dagger->agh. get some teleboots in this bitch too and gank your face off.

05-08-2010, 05:04 AM	#14
niloy Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 102	Re: Lina build? (skill+item) Items: Starting: 2 set of tangoes, 2 circlets, 1 gg branch 2 nulls :- so that you can pull off your entire 3 skill combo at lvl 6 and general skill spamming Str Power treads:- Gives more HP, IAS goes well with Fiery soul, low cost Point booster:- more HP and MP Ghost scepter(situational):- if facing invi heroes(riki, clinkz, gondar) or physical dps (ursa, mortred, davion) and they are specifically targetting you Aghahims scepter:- more HP, MP and imba ulti Hex :- Disable + More MP/MP regen By now, game should end.