[STR-Neutral] Ragnar - The Beast Rider

Megasoma · 05-08-2010, 04:11 AM

Hi pd community!
I need you help there

I have long wanted one more strengh ranged hero like Huskar
and i love Kodo model so much

I thought of this concept long time ago,but i have no more ideas and ask you help

concept of this hero in HP synergy

Ragnar - The Beast Rider
Name can be changed!

Hero info

Affiliation: Neutral
Role: Initiator,Tanker
Starting Hitpoints: 625
Starting Mana: 208
Starting Damage: 39-48
Starting Armor: 2.1
Strength: 25 + 2.0
Agility: 12 + 1.2
Intelligence: 16 + 1.6
Attack Type: Range
Attack Range: 350
Base Attack Time: 1.5
Attack Animation: 0.4 / 0.5
Missile Speed: 1400
Move Speed: 290
Sight Range: 1800 / 800

Taran Strike [R]

Type - Active
Target - Enemy unit

Kodo running to the victim, crushing all who stay him on the way

1 Level: Kodo run 1000 points,Deals 50+(1\10 max kodo HP)\Stunned target in 0.5 second
2 Level: Kodo run 1000 points,Deals 100+(1\10 max kodo HP)\Stunned target in 1.0 second
3 Level: Kodo run 1000 points,Deals 150+(1\10 max kodo HP)\Stunned target in 1.2 second
4 Level: Kodo run 1000 points,Deals 200+(1\10 max kodo HP)\Stunned target in 1.5 second

Cooldown - 40\35\30\25
Mana cost - 90\90\90\90

????? [?]

Type - ?????
Target - ?????

I cant complete this hero alone
maybe aoe clap\slow,need original ideas

1 Level:
2 Level:
3 Level:
4 Level:

•

Cooldown N\A
Mana cost N\A

Charmed drums [E]

Type - Passive, Aura
Target - Himself, Allied Heroes, Enemy Heroes

Orcs charmed Reels increases allied heroes max HP and decrease in enemy hero

1 Level:+15\-5 max HP per second\Maximum +150\-50 HP\AOE 900
2 Level:+20\-10 max HP per second\Maximum +200\-100 HP\AOE 1000
3 Level:+25\-15 max HP per second\Maximum +250\-150 HP\AOE 1100
4 Level:+30\-20 max HP per second\Maximum +300\-200 HP\AOE 1200

• When hero leave of AoE, bonus HP decreases every second

Cooldown N\A
Mana cost N\A

Gobble [G] (Ultimate)

Type - Active
Target - Enemy hero

Kodo eat enemy hero and transport her deals magic damage, also Kodo gets -50% MS.
If enemy hero died in Kodo belly,Kodo gets +50 max HP forever
any numbers can be changed!

1 Level: Transported victim 3.5 second\Deals 100 damage per second\Kodo have 50% slow debuff
2 Level: Transported victim 4.5 second\Deals 100 damage per second\Kodo have 50% slow debuff
3 Level: Transported victim 5.5 second\Deals 100 damage per second\Kodo have 50% slow debuff

• Damage type - magic
• Kodo cannot cast the skills at during ultimate
• If Kodo will travel at during ultimate more then 1000 units, devoured hero will spawn in cast point.
• Devoured hero can be saved,if Kodo been killed
• Cast range - 100

Cooldown 150\120\100
Mana cost 140\130\120

Captain Planet · 05-08-2010, 06:28 AM

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chessfreak · 05-24-2010, 01:14 PM

ulti is imba, its lasso with damage, change please.

Sly_theK1ng · 05-24-2010, 01:25 PM

u have only 3 magics...where is third?
???

Megasoma · 05-24-2010, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessfreak

ulti is imba, its lasso with damage, change please.

I disagree
During the lasso Allies could cause much more damage than the fixed 300 \ 400 \ 500

Also Kodo have slow and stop animation on last ultimate sec (burp bones or hero) = can be raped

agree? ._.

Averrios · 05-24-2010, 02:16 PM

I think I am able to count and there are only 3 skills?!
1st Skill: Is ok
2nd skill: ehm nothing to check out xD... maybe you could make a damage buff, but this is too lame. What about a demoralizing enemys making them unable to attack and making them fragiler to physical damage, as a active skill.
3rd Skill: The max HP buff is on the one hand underpowered maybe something about 75/100/125 and on the other you should add a limit. Unlimited skills are allways bad. If I got it this skill deals 550 dmg on lvl 3? To my mind you should point out what you want this skill to be, Either Dmg Spell or transporting.

Your normal stats are definetly underpowered ... Heros with little statsgain have allways great abilitys ... Heros with great stats gain usually less usefull skills. Your stats are small and the gain is small AND you dont have great abilitys. Too weak to be played.

The MS is also very little and I'm not sure if this model has an attack animation, but anyway you should work on this hero and add a 4th spell.

chessfreak · 05-24-2010, 02:20 PM

then tara run out! bottom line its more imba then lasso.

Megasoma · 05-24-2010, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly_theK1ng

u have only 3 magics...where is third?
???

Man, I cannot complete this hero in alone
I have basic concept and some skills,help me finish him or make more interesting please

1 skill - I like current skill idea and hp synergy (still,need more ideas)
2 skill - Aoe clap-like skill,maybe max hp synergy too?
3 skill - Some aura,but what? (my old ideas seem to me inappropriate)
4 ult - I like current ult (numbers can be changed ofc)

barnii · 05-24-2010, 02:27 PM

The passive Battle Drums could provide an HP increase to the hero and an HP regen aura to others. This would go well with the first skill as well as the hero's low stat gain.

Megasoma · 05-24-2010, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessfreak

then tara run out! bottom line its more imba then lasso.

But Taran strike cast target - only enemy unit

Infinite- · 05-24-2010, 02:38 PM

Little review as requested;

As for the first skill, i think it got potential. But like all heroes it need synergy, at the time being none is presented. Still you got 2 more skills to finish. Maybe a passive warstomp with no casting time is triggered every few sec (with ministun, dmg or similar) As for the ulti; the concept of this one is good (after some balance) and it fits the kodo theme. Just think synergy and the hero will complete itself

Megasoma · 05-24-2010, 02:42 PM

thanks to everyone,also if there are gross grammatical mistakes,correct me
I have bad english

chessfreak · 05-24-2010, 02:45 PM

ok maybe the ulti isn't imba given the circumstances, gud luck with this man.

Megasoma · 05-24-2010, 03:39 PM

moar ideas plz -.-

Also,maybe tomorrow I will upload the test map

hajasmarci · 05-27-2010, 11:29 PM

that last skill is a dismember-lasso ripoff imho, but the concept is neat. i dont really see how a drummer on a kodo is ranged =D

erico · 05-28-2010, 12:27 AM

Go see the skills post, you can found something usefull for your hero idea

Megasoma · 05-29-2010, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hajasmarci

that last skill is a dismember-lasso ripoff imho, but the concept is neat. i dont really see how a drummer on a kodo is ranged =D

kodo - default ranged unit

JawsXXX · 05-30-2010, 01:45 AM

The ultimate should have a time limit because otherwise its an auto win in 1 vs 1

Megasoma · 05-30-2010, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JawsXXX

The ultimate should have a time limit because otherwise its an auto win in 1 vs 1

Ultimate duration 3.5\4.5\5.5 sec

Or u talk about bonus hp duration?

Averrios · 05-30-2010, 08:04 AM

Skill 1: 12.5/15
• Fitting to Theme: 2/2
• Balance: 6/7 (In my opinion a little to weak)
• Creativity: 2/3
• Originality: 2.5/3
Skill 2: 0/15 (Cause there is no)
Skill 3: 14.5/15
• Fitting to Theme: 1.5/2 (Charmed-Kodo hm sounds strange)
• Balance: 7/7
• Creativity: 3/3
• Originality: 3/3
Ultimate: 12/15
• Fitting to Theme: 2/2
• Balance: 6/7 (increase the DMG a bit and add a silence for the duration)
• Creativity: 2/3
• Originality: 2/3
Statgain: 4/5 (for a tank str is a bit low)
Model: 6/6
Icon: 5/4
Story: 0/3 (Kodo needs one
Creativity: 4/5
Orginality: 4/5
Need for this Hero in DotA: 4.5/7
Personal Opinion: 3/5

Total: /100 =69.5%

Notes: Make a story, add the 2nd skill. It's not sooooo hard to think about one. BUT the name is for the kodo rider-your hero is the kodo... you see something?!
Anyway skill 2 has to be made. What about calling some smaller kodos,running around your hero damaging all enemys that are hit by a running kodo.

05-24-2010, 01:14 PM	#3
chessfreak Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: I honestly don't know Posts: 154	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider ulti is imba, its lasso with damage, change please.

05-24-2010, 01:25 PM	#4
Sly_theK1ng Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,629	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider u have only 3 magics...where is third? ???

05-24-2010, 02:20 PM	#7
chessfreak Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: I honestly don't know Posts: 154	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider then tara run out! bottom line its more imba then lasso.

05-24-2010, 02:27 PM	#9
barnii Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 50	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider The passive Battle Drums could provide an HP increase to the hero and an HP regen aura to others. This would go well with the first skill as well as the hero's low stat gain. __________________ I'm going to memorize your name and throw my head away. - Oscar Levant My Tavern

05-24-2010, 02:38 PM	#11
Infinite- Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sweden Posts: 55	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider Little review as requested; As for the first skill, i think it got potential. But like all heroes it need synergy, at the time being none is presented. Still you got 2 more skills to finish. Maybe a passive warstomp with no casting time is triggered every few sec (with ministun, dmg or similar) As for the ulti; the concept of this one is good (after some balance) and it fits the kodo theme. Just think synergy and the hero will complete itself

05-24-2010, 02:42 PM	#12
Megasoma Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kanada Posts: 266	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider thanks to everyone,also if there are gross grammatical mistakes,correct me I have bad english

05-24-2010, 02:45 PM	#13
chessfreak Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: I honestly don't know Posts: 154	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider ok maybe the ulti isn't imba given the circumstances, gud luck with this man.

05-24-2010, 03:39 PM	#14
Megasoma Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kanada Posts: 266	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider moar ideas plz -.- Also,maybe tomorrow I will upload the test map

Last edited by Megasoma; 05-24-2010 at 04:36 PM.

05-27-2010, 11:29 PM	#15
hajasmarci Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 5,385	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider that last skill is a dismember-lasso ripoff imho, but the concept is neat. i dont really see how a drummer on a kodo is ranged =D __________________ Sent from my Chrome Canary.

05-28-2010, 12:27 AM	#16
erico Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 244	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider Go see the skills post, you can found something usefull for your hero idea __________________ "For the Big Masters, greath warriors, for small moaths little life, for the some people, make your job, but for the dreamers, the true"!(cavazin 2010) My SUgestion:

05-30-2010, 01:45 AM	#18
JawsXXX Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8	Re: [STR-Neutral] Ragnar - Beast Rider The ultimate should have a time limit because otherwise its an auto win in 1 vs 1