Replace Stout and Poormans Shield

Yendor · 05-19-2010, 03:08 PM

Well... This has bothered me for a long time:

The Flavor text of Stout shiels reads:
One man's wine barrel bottom is another man's shield!

Poormans shield is stronger than stout shield.

So my suggestion is to :
switch the name of both.

Now it is like this:

Quote:

Poor Man's Shield - 250

One man's wine barrel bottom is another man's shield!

Gives a 60% chance to block 20 damage if the wielder is melee, or a 60% chance to block 10 damage if the wielder is ranged

Quote:

Stout Shield - 550

I sugegst something like: "Used in many battles this shield still stays stout"

Gives a 100% chance to block 20 hero damage if wielder is melee, or 100% chance to block 10 hero damage if wielder is ranged
Gives a 60% chance to block 20 non-heor damage if wielder is melee, or 60% chance to block 10 non-hero damage if wielder is ranged

which fits IMO.

pros:
- the Poormans shield will be the cheapest shield
- good flavortext for poormans

cons:
- maybe new name needed for the +6 AGI shield

/edit:
Although this suggestion is very similar to this one:
http://www.playdota.com/forums/15973...t-shield-name/

It is still different, as I suggest to only swap the NAMES.
The Icons will still be the same.

Another good Idea:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ez_Mystery

Your suggestion isn't perfect yet
You know what I prefer?
This

One man's wine barrel bottom is another man's shield!

Used in many battles but this shield still stays stout.

A powerful shield that imbues the bearer with the strength of heroes past.

Simply because Nathrezim Buckler's icon looks like an upgraded Stout Shield
But Nathrezim Buckler don't have a Stout Shield in the recipe

gnaLor · 05-19-2010, 03:27 PM

but the stoutshield icon looks rly cheap and basic, while the poor mans shield icon has a bit more to offer for the eye imo.
I dont know tnull

Yendor · 05-19-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnaLor

but the stoutshield icon looks rly cheap and basic, while the poor mans shield icon has a bit more to offer for the eye imo.
I dont know tnull

I don't suggest to change the Icons.
I just suggest to change the names

my suggestion:

= stout shield (stats remain the same as current poormans)

while

= Poormans shield [with current Flavor and with current bonuses... (found a mistake in my opening post -.-)]

Nox.knight · 05-19-2010, 03:39 PM

OP's got a point. T-up

CiseStarr. · 05-19-2010, 05:07 PM

T-up.

GrigorevAlex · 05-19-2010, 05:28 PM

I don't really care about it,T-NULL.

Schremba · 05-19-2010, 08:36 PM

Suggested before, T-down. Use search function next time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Poor man's can means cheap but good enough. Isn't it?

Well, my opinion. Current one is fine.

squeekenator · 05-19-2010, 08:43 PM

T-up. It is silly to make the fancier and more expensive shield the one that poor people would have.

Subway · 05-19-2010, 09:41 PM

This is going to be really confusing but it's the right thing to do. t_UP

dominator02 · 05-20-2010, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schremba

Suggested before, T-down. Use search function next time.

Well, my opinion. Current one is fine.

this would be the reason.

ParaDise.- · 05-20-2010, 02:50 AM

T-Down

I like the current, it's like a broken shield that means that is poor but good because of the brightness

NoThlnG · 05-20-2010, 04:22 AM

S U G G E S T E D.

For me, T-D. Search for threads for my reason xD

Yendor · 05-20-2010, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaDise.-

T-Down

I like the current, it's like a broken shield that means that is poor but good because of the brightness

A broken shield may also represent an old bbut stout shield.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

S U G G E S T E D.

For me, T-D. Search for threads for my reason xD

NOT suggested.
suggested is to change NAME AND ICON.

I suggest to just change NAME because the icons would fit the others name too.

dreamcatcher0 · 05-20-2010, 05:07 AM

Quote:

= stout shield (stats remain the same as current poormans)

while

= Poormans shield [with current Flavor and with current bonuses... (found a mistake in my opening post -.-)]

i agree to this... i believe this is right thing to do... present stout icon must be PMS and vice versa... they must switch names

LackA. · 06-21-2010, 01:25 PM

The purple on the pms looks like wine... or some sort of beverage... so T-Up.

DuskRaven · 06-21-2010, 06:31 PM

T-up xd imba change

Zangetsu2201 · 06-22-2010, 07:03 AM

Well, t-up, that's a fairly good point.

Captain Planet · 06-25-2010, 04:14 PM

T-up. Kinda makes sense although in the end it doesn't really matter

jesusatan · 06-25-2010, 04:49 PM

Makes sense. I was thinking about it, too. T-up.

Parrothead · 07-03-2010, 01:11 AM

I still stand for this to be implemented!

05-19-2010, 03:27 PM	#2
gnaLor Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bavaria Posts: 835	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield but the stoutshield icon looks rly cheap and basic, while the poor mans shield icon has a bit more to offer for the eye imo. I dont know tnull __________________ >>Items can be assembled by clicking the recipe scroll Making shopping more comfortable. >>Make Balanars ulti passive at night Removing the annoying ulti spam at night. *Testmap:* Meat Hook ! visual Shows a ! above Pudge if his hook hits a hero.

05-19-2010, 03:39 PM	#4
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CiseStarr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 52	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield T-up.

05-19-2010, 05:28 PM	#6
GrigorevAlex Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Russia,Velikiy Novgorod Posts: 405	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield I don't really care about it,T-NULL.

05-19-2010, 08:43 PM	#8
squeekenator Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 134	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield T-up. It is silly to make the fancier and more expensive shield the one that poor people would have.

05-19-2010, 09:41 PM	#9
Subway Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Azeroth Posts: 4,334	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield This is going to be really confusing but it's the right thing to do. t_UP __________________

05-20-2010, 02:50 AM	#11
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06-21-2010, 01:25 PM	#15
LackA. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 54	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield The purple on the pms looks like wine... or some sort of beverage... so T-Up.

06-22-2010, 07:03 AM	#17
Zangetsu2201 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,507 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield Well, t-up, that's a fairly good point.

06-25-2010, 04:49 PM	#19
jesusatan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield Makes sense. I was thinking about it, too. T-up.

07-03-2010, 01:11 AM	#20
Parrothead Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 125	Re: Replace Stout and Poormans Shield I still stand for this to be implemented! __________________