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Old 05-20-2010, 12:32 PM   #1
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Default [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm


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Changelog:

-changed Blizzard Breeze to Blizzard Breath
-changed Icy attack to frost Attack
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Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm


Background Story: Sapphiron. ones a mighty blue dragon on the region of Northren. he was slain by Arthas on the campaign on reaching the frozen throne, he was resurrected again to serve the lich king and do what the lich king's will. by using his chilling breath he can create a relentless blizzard, freezing those who is his allies and foes, he who is a horror on the skies will once again aid the scourge to a chilling victory

Theme: Frost Wyrm

Role: Pusher, Farmer, Babysitter

Strength: 21 + (1.4)
Agility: 18 + (1.9)
Intelligence: 24 + (2.4)

Affilation: Scourge
Damage: 45-51
Armor: 2
Movement Speed: 305
Attack range: 550
Vision: 1700/1200

Skills:
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Blizzard Breath
(need more better icon)
Description: by concentrating Saphirron's icy breath. He releases a blizzard in front of him in every second that damages enemies , and freezes buildings when hit by the last wave. lasts in 3 seconds

Lvl 1: 50 damage. 2 seconds building freeze
Lvl 2: 60 damage. 3 seconds building freeze
Lvl 3: 80 damage. 4 seconds building freeze
Lvl 4: 90 damage. 5 seconds building freeze

Manacost: 110/120/130/140
Cooldown: 20/18/16/14
Cast Range: 500
Area on Effect: 200 AoE radius
Area on Effect: 250

Notes:
- Damage Type: Magical
- Each blizzard does dps
- Freezes building when hit for 2 seconds
- has 0.1 sec interval on each Blizzards
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Cryo Stasis

Description: Sapphiron concentrates its breath to one target, freezing the enemy unit, doing extra damage on it while freezed, while healing allies on the that is freezed

Lvl 1: Freezes for 1.5 sec. does +10 extra damage on every attacks done. if targeted on allies freezes allies for 3 seconds, heals for 50 hp every second
Lvl 2: Freezes for 2 sec. does +20 extra damage on every attacks done. if targeted on allies freezes allies for 3 seconds, heals for 60 hp every second
Lvl 3: Freezes for 2.5 sec. does +30 extra damage on every attacks done. if targeted on allies freezes allies for 3 seconds, heals for 70 hp every second
Lvl 4: Freezes for 3 sec. does +40 extra damage on every attacks done. if targeted on allies freezes allies for 3 seconds, heals for 80 hp every second

Manacost: 100/100/100/100
Cooldown: 12/12/12/12
Cast Range: 500

Notes
- heroes inside can still cast spells
- heroes inside cannot move
- disrupts channeling spells except for allied heroes
- if allied unit is targeted. allied receives only 60% damage created by the enemy
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Frost Breath (Passive, Orb)

(Credits to MongoLikesCandy and others)

Description: Being a Frost Wyrm, Saphirron possesses a very powerful breath attack capable of freezing his enemies solid.

Level 1 - Every 8 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 50 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 2 seconds.
Level 2 - Every 7 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 75 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 2 seconds.
Level 3 - Every 6 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 100 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 2 seconds.
Level 4 - Every 5 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 125 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 2 seconds.


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- damage type: physical
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Chilling Soar

Description: Sapphiron soars on the sky, spreading its chilling breath on the heavens.

Lvl 1: Sapphiron is now a flying unit, slows ms and as of nearby enemies by 20%, stops any kind of regeneration. lasts in 15 seconds
Lvl 2: Sapphiron is now a flying unit, slows ms and as of nearby enemies by 30%, stops any kind of regeneration. lasts in 15 seconds
Lvl 3: Sapphiron is now a flying unit, slows ms and as of nearby enemies by 40%, stops any kind of regeneration. lasts in 15 seconds
Manacost: 125/150/175
Cooldown: 60/55/40
Area on Effect: 500
- only enemies inside can be is slowed
- does not destroy any trees that can be passed
- can fly over unpassable terrain
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

hmmmm , first coment : :-? u make 3-rd skill very bad , fix it :P add 5 4 3 2 atacks , 2nd skill kind of weird skill T_NULL
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:16 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

if i do that to 3rd skill, it will be imbalanced
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:48 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

Hmmm,what we got here is an icy undead dragon(which is cool) that is killen and resurected by the god damn Arthas the Death Knight(Lich King sortly after that,just play the campaign)
The first skill is simply fine, a nuke that dealt fine damage ,some knockback and short disable
The second skill,i need to know that the bonus damage is magical or physicals and does it also bonus damage for skills,too.3s target disable is quite nice,and its support is fine(but freeze your own allies,man this gonna be perfect for someone who want to make fun of his teamates,which is fun,but bad=,=)
Buff the third skill a little,since Shapphiron gonna be a intel hero,its not gona be attacking that fast,and its not goin to tank much damage either,so its not imba
Wait a sec,800 AoE slow(i want to know if its gonna slow MS,AS or both,recommend both cuz its a ultimate) is a little epic.He's gonna be one of the top chaser around
My conclusion:T-up just need to nerf the AoE of Ultimate a little(to about 350 or 400) is fine) and buff the 3rd skill
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:44 AM   #5
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

well the answer to your questions is now here

2nd skill does pure damage... it also added +damage on skills

what kind of buff on 3rd skill? attacks times? or you make it an active spell(which is useless against enemy heroes)
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

I like the overall concept of Saphirron in DotA, but theres something weird about your hero to me.

Imo, I would kinda combine this 1st and 3rd skills into a new skill.

Frost Breath (Passive, Orb)

Description: Being a Frost Wyrm, Saphirron possesses a very powerful breath attack capable of freezing his enemies solid.

Level 1 - Every 7 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 50 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 4 seconds.
Level 2 - Every 6 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 75 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 4 seconds.
Level 3 - Every 5 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 100 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 4 seconds.
Level 4 - Every 4 attacks, Saphirron releases a conical blast of frost that deals 125 bonus damage and slows targets struck by 25% for 4 seconds.

AoE of the cone is the same as other similar skills. (Jakiro Double Breath, Dragon Knight Fire Breath) But it gives Saph a real "oh craps its a dragon" feel, when she is constantly blowing frost breathes out every few seconds.

This would also give you room to add in a new 3rd skill to maybe balance out the skill set of provide more synergy or a theme fitting skill.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:43 AM   #7
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

^ yeah that is better

i dont know if its posible but you can add:

If the Breath hit a Building it will freeze it for 3 seconds, anyway this would do that the Breath take more time to charge again.

Explained: If hit building will freeze it but will have more cd to charge it
i mean more attacks to release it
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:57 AM   #8
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

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well the answer to your questions is now here

2nd skill does pure damage... it also added +damage on skills

what kind of buff on 3rd skill? attacks times? or you make it an active spell(which is useless against enemy heroes)
i meant a buff on the required attack for 3rd skill to work
maybe a 7/6/5/4 attack will do
we dont know if 'it' is a he or a she yet,but i go with he cuz if 'it' is a girl,it would be saphira...=))
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In my opinion, 2 freezes is a little over powering.
it's just a total 4.5s disable total in just a single target,its not that overpowered comparing to other top single target disabler like rhasta,lion or bane...
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:00 AM   #9
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

In my opinion, 2 freezes is a little over powering.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:44 PM   #10
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

Ok added the changes that was being suggested thanks to MongoLikesCandy and the others who contributed
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Old 05-22-2010, 03:42 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

isn't making frozen allies invul a bit OP? imagine rylai casting freezing field then pushed in the middle of the clash then frozen... insta-BKB don't you think?
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:37 PM   #12
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so you suggest that i remove invulnerability? the first time i did this is there is no invulnerability... but due to someone said that this skill is good on pissing of allies(leaving allies alone while in cryo stasis, in a middle of a gank)... that's why i put invulnerability... do you suggest that i remove it?
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

since make the allied hero invulnerable
make the atacker get low his atack by a high percentage
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:03 AM   #14
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

NIce hero you got there! I like the ice dragon idea. I'm going to T-up first because he can freeze buildings.

1. First skill is nearly spammable. Second skill is more useful healing than damaging. Third skill is fine, nothing wrong there. Ultimate is probably his most powerful ability, and no, I do not suggest nerfing the ulti, it's pretty good already.
2. Love ice dragon icon.
3. The skills all have okay-ish synergy, but the skills fits the themes.
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:55 AM   #15
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

but isn't it a bit imba? invul, might be to much.

t-null.
sorry. fix it up and u get a t-up and more. ^^ nice concept though.
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

But this skill leaves your ally defenseless.. leaving him/her alone on 5 heroes, especially on a gang rape or team clash

who wants to vote for a change? there is already 2 who voted it
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:44 PM   #17
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wat i can say! .... idea is good but... i see jakiro hero! the ult is really good.

sorry. t-down
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:13 PM   #18
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Default Re: [Scourge-Int] Sapphiron, Frost Wyrm

erico's 1st t-down on any of my suggestions... grrr....

well why do you think you saw jakiro here?
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:35 PM   #19
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Fist skill Blizzard Breath_ breath and a sequence equal to the double blow of jakiro. detail that it freezes the building, so that the ability of jakiro Liquid Fire's slow for the building.

Cryo Stasis- without the barrier of ice jakiro. this holds as the ice Crystal. but with damage equal to the barrier of ice Invoker! is different, but while following the line of freezing the dragon with two heads.

Frost Breath - a mix- is a mixture of ice breath dual Breth and Liquid Fire.

Ult- original.

and some people not like play whit jakiro. Is a good early game, one on the best early, but if not good played here he lost power in the game.
The most repick go to jakiro. the breat sisten not help some!


no history! where is the history?

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changed invulnerability by 40% damage reduction
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