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Old 05-21-2010, 02:53 PM   #1
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Default [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots


A simple suggestion.

Make it keep the phase ability even if you cast a spell.That way MANY heroes will benefit from it like:

-Pudge (open and close rot)
-Shadowfiend (great for positioning a devastating ultimate)
-Bristleback (he doesn't need status,he needs even more speed)
-Invoker (for obvious reassons)
-Huskar
etc


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Old 05-21-2010, 03:06 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Item[ Phase boots

Isnt this supposed to be in Remakes??
And i think it would becom IMBA
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Well,someone move it to remakes if it is then.
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Rage.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:03 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

It's made like that for purpose. However buffing it a little will surely make it more used, because nowadays people go for PT/BoT 99% of the time. T-UP if someone doesn't point the possible abuses, which will be gamebreaking.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:54 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

the way its presented, this is more like a discussion then a remake in my opinion
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:52 PM   #7
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Maybe some spells doesn't end the phase...

Like rage, rot, etc...

Only spells that trigger magic wand (rot doesn't) and bristle spells
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:48 PM   #8
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Well, considering your suggestion, every 10 seconds you get a free +12% MS for about half of the time with no cost. Always.

Well I can 'up' my thumb if I see a mana cost existence in your suggestion. :P
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:07 PM   #9
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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A simple suggestion.

Make it keep the phase ability even if you cast a spell.That way MANY heroes will benefit from it like:

-Pudge (open and close rot)
-Shadowfiend (great for positioning a devastating ultimate)
-Bristleback (he doesn't need status,he needs even more speed)
-Invoker (for obvious reassons)
-Huskar
etc


Discuss.Comment.Rage.Agree.Disagree.Troll.Grief.
This is annoying as hell to code AFAIK. Not 100% sure, but pretty close.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:12 PM   #10
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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This is annoying as hell to code AFAIK. Not 100% sure, but pretty close.
Wait,you mean it is already like this in "normal" phase?What about Spectre's dagger? >_>
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:33 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Bump.
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:31 PM   #12
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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Wait,you mean it is already like this in "normal" phase?What about Spectre's dagger? >_>
No. Normal phase is a windwalk. Windwalk break naturally when you cast a spell. To get a phase that don't interrupt, the only way is to store the time that passed since the activation and to activate a new windwalk with duration equal to x-time passed... It's something like 20 new spells and a couple pages of code just for a buff for phase boots...

Spec has a completely different form of phase.
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:31 PM   #13
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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No. Normal phase is a windwalk. Windwalk break naturally when you cast a spell. To get a phase that don't interrupt, the only way is to store the time that passed since the activation and to activate a new windwalk with duration equal to x-time passed... It's something like 20 new spells and a couple pages of code just for a buff for phase boots...

Spec has a completely different form of phase.
Please explain Spectre's form of phase then
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:49 PM   #14
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Add Ghost (Visible), remove pathing. Codeable (with some additional hassle).
Or applying Wind Walk every time spell is cast, then removing with triggers.

Why do I even care. Won't get implemented.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:06 AM   #15
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

If you're buying Phase Boots on Shadow Fiend you're definitely doing it wrong.

T-Up for the suggestion though; you're right on its uses on Pudge, BB, etc.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:46 AM   #16
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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If you're buying Phase Boots on Shadow Fiend you're definitely doing it wrong.

T-Up for the suggestion though; you're right on its uses on Pudge, BB, etc.
Really?I thought I could use an ally stunner and instagib a nearby enemy without the need of lothars.But that's just me.

But anyway,thanks for the support.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:13 AM   #17
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

,Phase Boot was already being unbuyable.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:39 AM   #18
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

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Please explain Spectre's form of phase then
Spec has 0 collision, it's a not a windwalk. You want to be able to cross cliff and enter forests with phase boots? That would be pretty lol.
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:54 PM   #19
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

T-up it will work really good with pudge and bristle.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:27 PM   #20
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Default Re: [Item] [Tweak] Phase boots

Its not a [TWEAK] Its a [Buff]
By the way, T-up...


Edit: It may be a tweak but it is a buff for the heroes you just said.
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