[SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist

Zypher~ · 06-13-2010, 05:15 PM

NOTE : Will finish this later... Or tomorrow... Or next week. Depends.

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The Goblin Arcanist
Vesper

Strength - 14 + [1.6]
Agility - 9 + [1.0]
Intelligence - 28 + [3.6]

Affiliation:	Sentinel
Damage:	23-91
Armor:	7
Movespeed:	290
Starting HP/MP:	416/364
Attack Range:	625

Arcane Mine - (Active)

____________________ Utilizing his master's teachings, Vesper plants a special mine capable of burning mana. Cap of 12.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 160 17 200 250 Mana Burn AoE/500 No Mana Burn AoE Until Killed 100 Damage, 150 Mana Burn
2 180 17 200 250 Mana Burn AoE/500 No Mana Burn AoE Until Killed 150 Damage, 200 Mana Burn
3 200 17 200 250 Mana Burn AoE/500 No Mana Burn AoE Until Killed 200 Damage, 250 Mana Burn
4 220 17 200 250 Mana Burn AoE/500 No Mana Burn AoE Until Killed 250 Damage, 300 Mana Burn

Notes:
Damage Type: Magical

When cap is reached. The oldest mine will explode.

Explodes when killed.

Vesper will gain experience for hero kills resulting from Land Mines regardless of where he is on the map.

Does not damage towers.

When activated any unit in the 250 Radius receives both the explosion damage and the mana burn. If the unit is in the 250-500 AoE he will only receive the explosion damage and not the mana burn.

Has 225/225 sight.

Mana Pulse - (Active, Single Target, Area of Effect)

____________________ Vesper afflicts an opponent with a curse, to be more specific a machine stuck on them which lets out a powerful pulse whenever they lose mana. Deals damage to those around affected unit every time he loses mana.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 100 25 400 500 5 50% of Mana Loss as damage.
2 120 20 400 500 7 75% of Mana Loss as damage.
3 140 20 400 500 7 100% of Mana Loss as damage.
4 160 15 400 500 9 120% of Mana Loss as damage.

Notes:
Damage Type: Magical

HERO X uses OMGWTF which requires 500 mana at the same time he stops on an Arcane mine losing 300 mana. 120% of 500 is 600 and the 120% of 300 is 360. The other units around HERO X in the AoE receives 600 and 360 magical damage.

I could add a damage cap.

Zeppelin Crash - (Active, Area of Effect, Buff)

____________________ Propelled by mana, a small zeppelin is sent flying by Vesper to a target location dealing damage, saturating the area with the essence of the arcane.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 110 20 350(Minimum) 1350(Maximum) 250 5 Deals 100 Damage. Gives 100 Mana and +5 Mana Regeneration in the AoE.
2 130 20 350(Minimum) 1350(Maximum) 250 5 Deals 200 Damage. Gives 125 Mana and +10 Mana Regeneration in the AoE.
3 160 20 350(Minimum) 1350(Maximum) 250 5 Deals 300 Damage. Gives 150 Mana and +15 Mana Regeneration in the AoE.
4 180 20 350(Minimum) 1350(Maximum) 250 5 Deals 400 Damage. Gives 175 Mana and +20 Mana Regeneration in the AoE.

Notes:
Damage Type:Magical

Casting Time:1.25 Sec

Affects both allies and foes with the + mana and mana regeneration.

Starts behind Vesper and has a speed of 522.

Has sight. 225/225

Vesper does not receive the buff.

Take Flight - (Active, Buff)

____________________ The zeppelin takes flight.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 75(Activation) 50 Per Sec. 5 --- --- --- Flies. Gains a two sub-skills.
2 75(Activation) 50 Per Sec. 5 --- --- --- Flies. Gains a two sub-skills.
3 75(Activation) 50 Per Sec. 5 --- --- --- Flies. Gains a two sub-skills.

Notes:
Has flying vision.

Can still attack.

Gains two sub-skills:
Kamikaze- (Active, Area of Effect)

____________________ Vesper still has the mentality of a goblin. The mentality which tells him to go boom when push comes to shove. His explosives on the other hand are specialized, Burning a foe's mana instead of simply causing physical damage while leaving them vulnerable to spells.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 100 180 --- 250 Full/450 Half 5 500/250 Mana Burnt. -25% Magic Resistance.
2 150 180 --- 250 Full/450 Half 5 650/325 Mana Burnt. -30% Magic Resistance.
3 200 180 --- 250 Full/450 Half 5 800/400 Mana Burnt. -35% Magic Resistance.

Notes:

Damage Type:Magical

Destroys trees.

Can be right-clicked so it can be toggled like Techies.

Applies -Magic Resistance after suicide.

The500/250, 650/325 and 800/400 means the mana burn dealt in 250 AoE/450 AoE

Spell Beacon - (Passive, Self-Buff)

__________ __________ Vesper's zeppelin is highly sensitive to arcane fluctuations. The beacons rev up the engine, gaining speed while repairing and enforcing the zeppelin for a short while whenever a foe casts a spell.

__ ____. ________. _______. ___. _______. __________________________.
Mana Cooldown C. Range AoE Duration Effects
1 --- 4 --- 500 8 +20 MS, +10% Magic Resistance and +5 HP Regen.
2 --- 3.5 --- 550 8 +20 MS, +13% Magic Resistance and +6 HP Regen.
3 --- 3 --- 600 8 +20 MS, +15% Magic Resistance and +7 HP Regen.

Notes:
Stacks 5 times.

Restarts duration when activated.

RoniRizz · 06-13-2010, 05:35 PM

Nice!

Good luck with hero!

Pharaoh_ · 06-13-2010, 07:38 PM

You mixed up 1337 with the characteristic accent of the goblins.
Mmmmm3g4 f4ul7, to speak in your tongue.
Do you really expect a hero that has "FU" in the story background to be taken seriously? I guess you got confused: This is the Hero Ideas forum, not the Comedy one.

Zypher~ · 06-14-2010, 05:27 AM

^Do you expect me to take your post seriously?

Apparently you didn't read the noticeable NOTE above the Idea. Those are merely fillers that are NOT the REAL descriptions.

Please refrain from posting nonsense and read the whole thread first.

Omega_P · 06-14-2010, 05:33 AM

This is madness..

BTW I like the Arcane Mine idea.

Shizzy- · 06-14-2010, 05:42 AM

14 AoE is imba.

Dark Mizuki · 06-14-2010, 05:47 AM

That's 140 in DotA terms, since 14, in ladder, is the equivalent of that.

Reviews when done =P

Zypher~ · 06-30-2010, 07:29 AM

BUMP. Updated 1st and 2nd Skill.

Will update the other later.

Zypher~ · 07-10-2010, 04:10 PM

Updated 3rd Skill and Ultimate.

Almost done!

Zypher~ · 07-24-2010, 12:39 PM

FINISHED THE HERO

Half-assed story. Sorry bout that.

menage0a0trois · 07-24-2010, 01:06 PM

Arcane Mine 250 Damage, 300 Mana Burn? So a total of 550 damage? Cause as far as I recall, Mana Burn means removing mana and dealing physical damage based on mana removed.

Same question with Kamikaze. 800 Mana Burn...

I see... a mana version of Techies. Kinda strong though. I remember that Nerubian Assassin's 260 mana burn was changed for the reason it's too strong against non int heroes... but since the AoE is only 250... then again NA's was only 1 target Mana Burn and this is an AoE....

Sorry I suck at balancing. Especially on pure theoretical things.

Prometheus · 07-24-2010, 01:21 PM

Why The Goblin Arcanist Sensitive to Mana?I think Goblin likeing science and technology more than magic.

Zypher~ · 07-24-2010, 06:00 PM

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Arcane Mine 250 Damage, 300 Mana Burn? So a total of 550 damage? Cause as far as I recall, Mana Burn means removing mana and dealing physical damage based on mana removed.

Same question with Kamikaze. 800 Mana Burn...

I see... a mana version of Techies. Kinda strong though. I remember that Nerubian Assassin's 260 mana burn was changed for the reason it's too strong against non int heroes... but since the AoE is only 250... then again NA's was only 1 target Mana Burn and this is an AoE....

Sorry I suck at balancing. Especially on pure theoretical things.

Most people say that numbers aren't much of a problem but the concept. The problem of NA's mana burn was that it was spammable and had a rather long cast range which could effectively disable a skill-dependent hero in that lane almost no prob. Where as this guy has to plant his mines first. Countered by proper warding easily.

Also if you think about it... Techies had 600 damage from his mines. It also dealt half that damage in 500 AoE. I'll just wait for more input from other members before I nerf the numbers.

Also at above poster. Read the story.

menage0a0trois · 07-25-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zypher~

Most people say that numbers aren't much of a problem but the concept. The problem of NA's mana burn was that it was spammable and had a rather long cast range which could effectively disable a skill-dependent hero in that lane almost no prob. Where as this guy has to plant his mines first. Countered by proper warding easily.

Also if you think about it... Techies had 600 damage from his mines. It also dealt half that damage in 500 AoE. I'll just wait for more input from other members before I nerf the numbers.

Also at above poster. Read the story.

I wasn't asking for a nerf. ^^
I thought that too. I was simply asking for clarification. A lot of people don't realize that Mana Burn means damage too and not just mana loss.^^

1337_n00b · 07-25-2010, 07:00 PM

The story was about to bring a manly tear to my eye.

Gotta make a full overview, but... T-up anyway.

galuf · 07-25-2010, 07:54 PM

Good concept but numbers seems to be a bit high, and the synergie with spellcaster heroes is too big. (imo)

Zypher~ · 07-26-2010, 01:54 PM

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I wasn't asking for a nerf. ^^
I thought that too. I was simply asking for clarification. A lot of people don't realize that Mana Burn means damage too and not just mana loss.^^

Oh? Sorry, I thought you were asking for a nerf.

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Good concept but numbers seems to be a bit high, and the synergie with spellcaster heroes is too big. (imo)

The only synergy with spellcasters is the ultimate which reduces Magic Resistance to almost fatal levels. Which may seem imba but do take note that he kills himself in the process.

Still thinking about a nerf though.

Lotus V Eater · 07-26-2010, 07:29 PM

1st skill:
the effects of Arcane Mine is applied during it is activated(i mean planted, as it is a mine), or after it is burst/explode?

Ultimate:
800 max mana burnt - which mean the unit will lose 800 mana + 480 hp right? dont you think it is too imba? does this deal magical damage? at least Techies suicide deal physical damage, thus reduced by armor...and block by Ethereal thingy (Decrepify, Ghost Form and Ethereal Blade)...

Neoghost · 07-26-2010, 08:25 PM

First skill : Your mine are visible ? They don't explode like techies' mines ? If correct, they are not very useful...

Second skill :
You said in the table "120% of mana loss as damage" (at level 4) and under the table "The affected unit will only be damaged by half of the mana loss.".
So does the focused unit lose 120% (at level 4) or 60% of mana loss as damage ???

Third skill : Ok for the damage, but why it gives bonus mana to all units (ennemies and allies) ?

Kamikaze : Like techies' suicide but hit the mana. When you say mana burn you want to say that the ennemy will lose as much Hp as mana removed ?

I think you should balance your skills. And it's weird that a STR hero has one of the best INT gain in the game (only pugna has more).

Zypher~ · 07-26-2010, 09:56 PM

1st Skill - Come come. Its obvious that they're invisible and that they explode. But sh*t... I'll add that info so that other people won't get confused.

2nd Skill - I'm too lazy to explain it more thoroughly. But for the sake of it. The unit affected by the skill will receive 60%. While the units around him will receive 120%.

3rd Skill - For synergy. Also I still think that the damage is a bit too high. So I gave it a drawback which probably isn't much of a drawback.

Ultimate - Yes, that's exactly what mana burn is. I still feel its imba though.

OH SHI--- I forgot to change his main attribute... My fault there. *nervous laughter* hehe

Yeah yeah. I get that a lot. His skills seem a bit too imba.

EDIT:
Actually I think STR is just right for him. I mean, he does have rather potent skills.

06-13-2010, 05:35 PM	#2
RoniRizz Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Russia, S-Pb, Kolpino Posts: 294	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist Nice! Good luck with hero! __________________

06-13-2010, 07:38 PM	#3
Pharaoh_ Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 35	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist You mixed up 1337 with the characteristic accent of the goblins. Mmmmm3g4 f4ul7, to speak in your tongue. Do you really expect a hero that has "FU" in the story background to be taken seriously? I guess you got confused: This is the Hero Ideas forum, not the Comedy one.

06-14-2010, 05:27 AM	#4
Zypher~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 298	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist ^Do you expect me to take your post seriously? Apparently you didn't read the noticeable NOTE above the Idea. Those are merely fillers that are NOT the REAL descriptions. Please refrain from posting nonsense and read the whole thread first. __________________ Zypher † Nexus † Ytter'Zen†Ocuzate†Cerberus†Vesper †Tranquil Treads† *We all live in an empty box.

06-14-2010, 05:33 AM	#5
Omega_P Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States of the Philippines Posts: 705 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist This is madness.. BTW I like the Arcane Mine idea. __________________ Now with more pics+link to a website just for her.

06-14-2010, 05:42 AM	#6
Shizzy- Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,456	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist 14 AoE is imba. __________________ Pew~

06-14-2010, 05:47 AM	#7
Dark Mizuki Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,001	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist That's 140 in DotA terms, since 14, in ladder, is the equivalent of that. Reviews when done =P __________________ SIG GUIDES

06-30-2010, 07:29 AM	#8
Zypher~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 298	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist BUMP. Updated 1st and 2nd Skill. Will update the other later. __________________ Zypher † Nexus † Ytter'Zen†Ocuzate†Cerberus†Vesper †Tranquil Treads† *We all live in an empty box.

07-10-2010, 04:10 PM	#9
Zypher~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 298	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist Updated 3rd Skill and Ultimate. Almost done! __________________ Zypher † Nexus † Ytter'Zen†Ocuzate†Cerberus†Vesper †Tranquil Treads† *We all live in an empty box.

07-24-2010, 12:39 PM	#10
Zypher~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 298	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist FINISHED THE HERO Half-assed story. Sorry bout that. __________________ Zypher † Nexus † Ytter'Zen†Ocuzate†Cerberus†Vesper †Tranquil Treads† *We all live in an empty box.

07-24-2010, 01:06 PM	#11
menage0a0trois Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,742 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist Arcane Mine 250 Damage, 300 Mana Burn? So a total of 550 damage? Cause as far as I recall, Mana Burn means removing mana and dealing physical damage based on mana removed. Same question with Kamikaze. 800 Mana Burn... I see... a mana version of Techies. Kinda strong though. I remember that Nerubian Assassin's 260 mana burn was changed for the reason it's too strong against non int heroes... but since the AoE is only 250... then again NA's was only 1 target Mana Burn and this is an AoE.... Sorry I suck at balancing. Especially on pure theoretical things. __________________ Techies Remake Phat Lewt Dotaboss - The Key of Destiny X A Goblin Techies Remake Suggestion.

07-24-2010, 01:21 PM	#12
Prometheus Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 59	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist Why The Goblin Arcanist Sensitive to Mana?I think Goblin likeing science and technology more than magic. __________________ My Suggestions:HERO1(agi)centaur hunter-cuergo HERO2([INT-NEUTRAL] Bayne,The Felhunter

07-25-2010, 07:00 PM	#15
1337_n00b Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: One Foot in the Grave. Posts: 1,236 Blog Entries: 3	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist The story was about to bring a manly tear to my eye. Gotta make a full overview, but... T-up anyway. __________________ That's not a problem. Probably. Thanks to TellYourFriends

07-25-2010, 07:54 PM	#16
galuf Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: has been killed by neutral creeps in France Posts: 2,779	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist Good concept but numbers seems to be a bit high, and the synergie with spellcaster heroes is too big. (imo) __________________ Lurked on "I'm the juggernaut, bitch"

07-26-2010, 07:29 PM	#18
Lotus V Eater Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Borneo Island! Posts: 4,832 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist 1st skill: the effects of Arcane Mine is applied during it is activated(i mean planted, as it is a mine), or after it is burst/explode? Ultimate: 800 max mana burnt - which mean the unit will lose 800 mana + 480 hp right? dont you think it is too imba? does this deal magical damage? at least Techies suicide deal physical damage, thus reduced by armor...and block by Ethereal thingy (Decrepify, Ghost Form and Ethereal Blade)... __________________ :It is no good to try to stop knowledge from going forward. Ignorance is never better than knowledge: Visit My Hero Idea Portfolio I Do Accept Signature Request! LOTUS V EATER'S HOMEMADE ICONS : CHECK IT OUT NOW!

07-26-2010, 08:25 PM	#19
Neoghost Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 228	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist First skill : Your mine are visible ? They don't explode like techies' mines ? If correct, they are not very useful... Second skill : You said in the table "120% of mana loss as damage" (at level 4) and under the table "The affected unit will only be damaged by half of the mana loss.". So does the focused unit lose 120% (at level 4) or 60% of mana loss as damage ??? Third skill : Ok for the damage, but why it gives bonus mana to all units (ennemies and allies) ? Kamikaze : Like techies' suicide but hit the mana. When you say mana burn you want to say that the ennemy will lose as much Hp as mana removed ? I think you should balance your skills. And it's weird that a STR hero has one of the best INT gain in the game (only pugna has more). __________________ My hero suggestion : K'ranal, The Coward

07-26-2010, 09:56 PM	#20
Zypher~ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 298	Re: [SENT-INT] Vesper, The Goblin Arcanist 1st Skill - Come come. Its obvious that they're invisible and that they explode. But sht... I'll add that info so that other people won't get confused. 2nd Skill - I'm too lazy to explain it more thoroughly. But for the sake of it. The unit affected by the skill will receive 60%. While the units around him will receive 120%. 3rd Skill - For synergy. Also I still think that the damage is a bit too high. So I gave it a drawback which probably isn't much of a drawback. Ultimate - Yes, that's exactly what mana burn is. I still feel its imba though. OH SHI--- I forgot to change his main attribute... My fault there. nervous laughter* hehe Yeah yeah. I get that a lot. His skills seem a bit too imba. EDIT: Actually I think STR is just right for him. I mean, he does have rather potent skills. __________________ Zypher † Nexus † Ytter'Zen†Ocuzate†Cerberus†Vesper †Tranquil Treads† *We all live in an empty box.

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