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Old 06-29-2010, 04:36 PM   #1
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Default Gosugamers.net replay statistics


Hello everyone. I had a bit of time on my hand, and decided to do an analysis of games from gosugamers.net. Part of the reason is because noone ever seems to have done any large scale analysis of competitive games. I searched a lot, but most of the others seem to have been done by hand and have a sample size of less than a hundred games. This one isn't done by hand, I wrote a program to collect the data from gosugamers.net website.

If you don't already know, this website has a lot of pro/semi-pro replays. Many of these are not tournament games, many are Dota pride or some other pubbys. But it can generally be considered to be a representative of 'competitive scene'. We will analyze the picks and bans of all the heroes in dota.

Sample Replays

Total no. of replays analyzed: 3121
Dates of these replays: July 2009 to June 2010 ( one year )
Versions: 6.59d to 6.67c

No. of games won by the Sentinel: 1640 ( 52.54% )
No. of games won by the Scourge: 1481 ( 47.45% )

Ban information available for: 2053 games
Many games are in -ap or something and don't have ban info.

Picks and Bans

Bans
Heroes in order of ban rate

.Hero Games Banned Ban chance
Broodmother 1042 50.75%
Nerubian Assassin 886 43.16%
Slithereen Guard 869 42.33%
Shadow Shaman 797 38.82%
Tidehunter 749 36.48%
Dark Seer 614 29.91%
Undying 527 25.67%
Storm Spirit 480 23.38%
Vengeful Spirit 465 22.65%
Gorgon 445 21.68%
Beastmaster 434 21.14%
Pandaren Brewmaster 423 20.60%
Earthshaker 419 20.41%
Morphling 401 19.53%
Bane Elemental 392 19.09%
Oblivion 390 19.00%
Crystal Maiden 389 18.95%
Admiral Proudmoore 355 17.29%
Netherdrake 343 16.71%
Necro'lic 332 16.17%
Enchantress 297 14.47%
Batrider 276 13.44%
Chieftain 252 12.27%
Doom Bringer 252 12.27%
Holy Knight 243 11.84%
Phantom Lancer 240 11.69%
Priestess of the Moon 239 11.64%
Spectre 238 11.59%
Demon Witch 229 11.15%
Clockwerk 222 10.81%
Lord of Olympia 211 10.28%
Silencer 208 10.13%
Lord of Avernus 206 10.03%
Witch Doctor 203 9.89%
Necrolyte 201 9.79%
Enigma 185 9.01%
Warlock 172 8.38%
Rogue Knight 165 8.04%
Alchemist 153 7.45%
Lightning Revenant 149 7.26%
Shadow Fiend 139 6.77%
Sand King 111 5.41%
Dwarven Sniper 109 5.31%
Lone Druid 105 5.11%
Faerie Dragon 98 4.77%
Death Prophet 86 4.19%
Ursa Warrior 80 3.90%
Tinker 73 3.56%
Drow Ranger 67 3.26%
Templar Assassin 49 2.39%
Shadow Priest 48 2.34%
Windrunner 32 1.56%
Bloodseeker 28 1.36%
Anti-Mage 22 1.07%
Omniknight 19 0.93%
Queen of Pain 18 0.88%
Axe 17 0.83%
Prophet 14 0.68%
Bristleback 13 0.63%
Keeper of the Light 12 0.58%
Obsidian Destroyer 12 0.58%
Geomancer 10 0.49%
Treant Protector 9 0.44%
Pit Lord 9 0.44%
Dragon Knight 9 0.44%
Goblin Techies 8 0.39%
Naga Siren 8 0.39%
Stealth Assassin 8 0.39%
Lifestealer 7 0.34%
Bone Fletcher 6 0.29%
Slayer 6 0.29%
Lycanthrope 6 0.29%
Faceless Void 6 0.29%
Invoker 5 0.24%
Night Stalker 4 0.19%
Butcher 4 0.19%
Skeleton King 4 0.19%
Bounty Hunter 4 0.19%
Juggernaut 3 0.15%
Ogre Magi 3 0.15%
Phantom Assassin 3 0.15%
Nerubian Weaver 3 0.15%
Moon Rider 2 0.10%
Soul Keeper 2 0.10%
Centaur Warchief 2 0.10%
Lich 2 0.10%
Sacred Warrior 2 0.10%
Tormented Soul 2 0.10%
Troll Warlord 2 0.10%
Spiritbreaker 1 0.05%
Magnataur 1 0.05%
Venomancer 1 0.05%
Ancient Apparition 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0.00%
Twin Head Dragon 0 0.00%
Stone Giant 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0.00%

Pick info:
Heroes in order of pick rate

.Hero Games picked Games Won Pick rate
Priestess of the Moon 1908 961 61.13%
Crystal Maiden 1774 870 56.84%
Demon Witch 1615 776 51.75%
Earthshaker 1603 807 51.36%
Vengeful Spirit 1394 801 44.67%
Sand King 1221 601 39.12%
Admiral Proudmoore 1075 492 34.44%
Shadow Fiend 1009 521 32.33%
Warlock 996 484 31.91%
Faerie Dragon 919 429 29.45%
Morphling 759 362 24.32%
Rogue Knight 747 347 23.93%
Lord of Olympia 722 311 23.13%
Shadow Shaman 688 333 22.04%
Tidehunter 627 292 20.09%
Storm Spirit 557 288 17.85%
Witch Doctor 541 258 17.33%
Slithereen Guard 540 277 17.30%
Necrolyte 502 258 16.08%
Beastmaster 461 256 14.77%
Enigma 445 233 14.26%
Netherdrake 408 192 13.07%
Dark Seer 403 196 12.91%
Bane Elemental 403 190 12.91%
Tinker 348 179 11.15%
Gorgon 345 161 11.05%
Oblivion 344 165 11.02%
Pandaren Brewmaster 309 164 9.90%
Shadow Priest 309 163 9.90%
Clockwerk 308 164 9.87%
Holy Knight 291 160 9.32%
Slayer 291 134 9.32%
Dwarven Sniper 284 145 9.10%
Broodmother 282 153 9.04%
Nerubian Assassin 278 145 8.91%
Lightning Revenant 259 117 8.30%
Drow Ranger 259 139 8.30%
Windrunner 259 127 8.30%
Spectre 256 132 8.20%
Enchantress 232 117 7.43%
Phantom Lancer 231 103 7.40%
Queen of Pain 229 100 7.34%
Stone Giant 212 103 6.79%
Lord of Avernus 197 91 6.31%
Lich 186 98 5.96%
Necro'lic 181 105 5.80%
Lifestealer 177 73 5.67%
Doom Bringer 174 75 5.58%
Silencer 174 87 5.58%
Undying 169 67 5.41%
Death Prophet 165 66 5.29%
Axe 162 61 5.19%
Dragon Knight 160 68 5.13%
Prophet 156 85 5.00%
Batrider 154 80 4.93%
Keeper of the Light 148 74 4.74%
Alchemist 139 78 4.45%
Juggernaut 135 75 4.33%
Chieftain 134 71 4.29%
Templar Assassin 133 69 4.26%
Venomancer 123 60 3.94%
Anti-Mage 118 62 3.78%
Centaur Warchief 117 64 3.75%
Omniknight 108 60 3.46%
Tormented Soul 104 40 3.33%
Bristleback 103 35 3.30%
Bloodseeker 94 51 3.01%
Ursa Warrior 93 47 2.98%
Obsidian Destroyer 92 46 2.95%
Skeleton King 83 43 2.66%
Ogre Magi 81 42 2.60%
Twin Head Dragon 68 34 2.18%
Invoker 65 32 2.08%
Butcher 61 35 1.95%
Lone Druid 58 28 1.86%
Stealth Assassin 56 27 1.79%
Faceless Void 55 20 1.76%
Naga Siren 52 31 1.67%
Treant Protector 51 25 1.63%
Chaos Knight 48 25 1.54%
Magnataur 45 26 1.44%
Moon Rider 43 25 1.38%
Nerubian Weaver 41 13 1.31%
Pit Lord 39 19 1.25%
Night Stalker 39 25 1.25%
Phantom Assassin 33 16 1.06%
Bounty Hunter 31 14 0.99%
Bone Fletcher 28 15 0.90%
Lycanthrope 27 12 0.87%
Geomancer 26 15 0.83%
Sacred Warrior 25 11 0.80%
Goblin Techies 22 14 0.70%
Soul Keeper 18 10 0.58%
Troll Warlord 14 4 0.45%
Spiritbreaker 4 3 0.13%
Murloc 4 1 0.13%
Ancient Apparition 3 2 0.10%

Win Rate

Heroes in order of Win rate.
Note some of them will be not be accurately represented because they were picked in very few games.

.Hero Games picked Games Won Win rate
Spiritbreaker 4 3 75.00%
Ancient Apparition 3 2 66.67%
Night Stalker 39 25 64.10%
Goblin Techies 22 14 63.64%
Naga Siren 52 31 59.62%
Moon Rider 43 25 58.14%
Necro'lic 181 105 58.01%
Magnataur 45 26 57.78%
Geomancer 26 15 57.69%
Vengeful Spirit 1394 801 57.46%
Butcher 61 35 57.38%
Alchemist 139 78 56.12%
Juggernaut 135 75 55.56%
Omniknight 108 60 55.56%
Soul Keeper 18 10 55.56%
Beastmaster 461 256 55.53%
Holy Knight 291 160 54.98%
Centaur Warchief 117 64 54.70%
Prophet 156 85 54.49%
Broodmother 282 153 54.26%
Bloodseeker 94 51 54.26%
Drow Ranger 259 139 53.67%
Bone Fletcher 28 15 53.57%
Clockwerk 308 164 53.25%
Pandaren Brewmaster 309 164 53.07%
Chieftain 134 71 52.99%
Shadow Priest 309 163 52.75%
Lich 186 98 52.69%
Anti-Mage 118 62 52.54%
Enigma 445 233 52.36%
Nerubian Assassin 278 145 52.16%
Chaos Knight 48 25 52.08%
Batrider 154 80 51.95%
Templar Assassin 133 69 51.88%
Ogre Magi 81 42 51.85%
Skeleton King 83 43 51.81%
Storm Spirit 557 288 51.71%
Shadow Fiend 1009 521 51.64%
Spectre 256 132 51.56%
Tinker 348 179 51.44%
Necrolyte 502 258 51.39%
Slithereen Guard 540 277 51.30%
Dwarven Sniper 284 145 51.06%
Ursa Warrior 93 47 50.54%
Enchantress 232 117 50.43%
Priestess of the Moon 1908 961 50.37%
Earthshaker 1603 807 50.34%
Silencer 174 87 50.00%
Keeper of the Light 148 74 50.00%
Obsidian Destroyer 92 46 50.00%
Twin Head Dragon 68 34 50.00%
Invoker 65 32 49.23%
Sand King 1221 601 49.22%
Crystal Maiden 1774 870 49.04%
Windrunner 259 127 49.03%
Treant Protector 51 25 49.02%
Venomancer 123 60 48.78%
Pit Lord 39 19 48.72%
Dark Seer 403 196 48.64%
Warlock 996 484 48.59%
Stone Giant 212 103 48.58%
Phantom Assassin 33 16 48.48%
Shadow Shaman 688 333 48.40%
Lone Druid 58 28 48.28%
Stealth Assassin 56 27 48.21%
Demon Witch 1615 776 48.05%
Oblivion 344 165 47.97%
Morphling 759 362 47.69%
Witch Doctor 541 258 47.69%
Bane Elemental 403 190 47.15%
Netherdrake 408 192 47.06%
Faerie Dragon 919 429 46.68%
Gorgon 345 161 46.67%
Tidehunter 627 292 46.57%
Rogue Knight 747 347 46.45%
Lord of Avernus 197 91 46.19%
Slayer 291 134 46.05%
Admiral Proudmoore 1075 492 45.77%
Lightning Revenant 259 117 45.17%
Bounty Hunter 31 14 45.16%
Phantom Lancer 231 103 44.59%
Lycanthrope 27 12 44.44%
Sacred Warrior 25 11 44.00%
Queen of Pain 229 100 43.67%
Doom Bringer 174 75 43.10%
Lord of Olympia 722 311 43.07%
Dragon Knight 160 68 42.50%
Lifestealer 177 73 41.24%
Death Prophet 165 66 40.00%
Undying 169 67 39.64%
Tormented Soul 104 40 38.46%
Axe 162 61 37.65%
Faceless Void 55 20 36.36%
Bristleback 103 35 33.98%
Nerubian Weaver 41 13 31.71%
Troll Warlord 14 4 28.57%
Murloc 4 1 25.00%

Version Specific info

The previous information was data about a whole year, and thus may not be very relevant. Since it's too hard to calculate for individual versions, following is the data for the first 383 games and the last 375 games.

First 383 games: Predominantly version 6.59d and 6.60



Bans

.Hero Games Banned Ban chance
Nerubian Assassin 253 91.34%
Undying 235 84.84%
Shadow Shaman 198 71.48%
Bane Elemental 182 65.70%
Necrolyte 116 41.88%
Lord of Olympia 113 40.79%
Holy Knight 111 40.07%
Enchantress 107 38.63%
Netherdrake 89 32.13%
Chieftain 79 28.52%
Death Prophet 77 27.80%
Clockwerk 62 22.38%
Batrider 57 20.58%
Admiral Proudmoore 52 18.77%
Earthshaker 51 18.41%
Crystal Maiden 50 18.05%
Tinker 48 17.33%
Enigma 32 11.55%
Broodmother 29 10.47%
Priestess of the Moon 27 9.75%
Morphling 26 9.39%
Lord of Avernus 25 9.03%
Tidehunter 23 8.30%
Warlock 21 7.58%
Sand King 21 7.58%
Bloodseeker 19 6.86%
Faerie Dragon 17 6.14%
Axe 9 3.25%
Demon Witch 7 2.53%
Slithereen Guard 6 2.17%
Doom Bringer 6 2.17%
Phantom Lancer 5 1.81%
Alchemist 5 1.81%
Keeper of the Light 4 1.44%
Silencer 3 1.08%
Ogre Magi 3 1.08%
Lifestealer 3 1.08%
Bristleback 3 1.08%
Storm Spirit 2 0.72%
Anti-Mage 2 0.72%
Lightning Revenant 2 0.72%
Sacred Warrior 1 0.36%
Shadow Priest 1 0.36%
Butcher 1 0.36%
Goblin Techies 1 0.36%
Phantom Assassin 1 0.36%
Oblivion 1 0.36%
Omniknight 1 0.36%
Dragon Knight 1 0.36%
Shadow Fiend 1 0.36%
Tormented Soul 1 0.36%
Dark Seer 1 0.36%
Lycanthrope 1 0.36%
Queen of Pain 1 0.36%
Lone Druid 1 0.36%
Magnataur 1 0.36%
Bone Fletcher 1 0.36%
Templar Assassin 0 0.00%
Naga Siren 0 0.00%
Drow Ranger 0 0.00%
Twin Head Dragon 0 0.00%
Juggernaut 0 0.00%
Obsidian Destroyer 0 0.00%
Dwarven Sniper 0 0.00%
Prophet 0 0.00%
Geomancer 0 0.00%
Venomancer 0 0.00%
Spectre 0 0.00%
Witch Doctor 0 0.00%
Invoker 0 0.00%
Bounty Hunter 0 0.00%
Night Stalker 0 0.00%
Centaur Warchief 0 0.00%
Windrunner 0 0.00%
Vengeful Spirit 0 0.00%
Necro'lic 0 0.00%
Beastmaster 0 0.00%
Pit Lord 0 0.00%
Skeleton King 0 0.00%
Slayer 0 0.00%
Pandaren Brewmaster 0 0.00%
Gorgon 0 0.00%
Stone Giant 0 0.00%
Rogue Knight 0 0.00%
Troll Warlord 0 0.00%
Faceless Void 0 0.00%
Lich 0 0.00%
Moon Rider 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0.00%
Treant Protector 0 0.00%
Stealth Assassin 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0.00%

Picks

.Hero Games picked Games Won Pick chance
Priestess of the Moon 305 158 79.63%
Sand King 227 110 59.27%
Earthshaker 218 123 56.92%
Crystal Maiden 217 106 56.66%
Lord of Olympia 197 90 51.44%
Warlock 175 86 45.69%
Demon Witch 169 78 44.13%
Faerie Dragon 151 73 39.43%
Admiral Proudmoore 138 60 36.03%
Shadow Shaman 104 47 27.15%
Morphling 101 50 26.37%
Bane Elemental 92 52 24.02%
Enigma 81 38 21.15%
Clockwerk 80 41 20.89%
Necrolyte 73 37 19.06%
Enchantress 67 39 17.49%
Tidehunter 66 25 17.23%
Axe 66 25 17.23%
Holy Knight 62 38 16.19%
Netherdrake 62 36 16.19%
Tinker 60 31 15.67%
Lord of Avernus 55 29 14.36%
Shadow Fiend 55 26 14.36%
Death Prophet 44 20 11.49%
Lifestealer 42 17 10.97%
Slayer 35 15 9.14%
Shadow Priest 34 24 8.88%
Slithereen Guard 33 16 8.62%
Ogre Magi 33 18 8.62%
Broodmother 32 20 8.36%
Nerubian Assassin 31 18 8.09%
Undying 31 14 8.09%
Spectre 28 15 7.31%
Lich 28 10 7.31%
Batrider 27 20 7.05%
Tormented Soul 26 12 6.79%
Dark Seer 25 11 6.53%
Bloodseeker 24 15 6.27%
Silencer 24 15 6.27%
Juggernaut 24 16 6.27%
Dragon Knight 23 10 6.01%
Queen of Pain 22 7 5.74%
Venomancer 21 11 5.48%
Stone Giant 21 8 5.48%
Doom Bringer 19 7 4.96%
Vengeful Spirit 19 8 4.96%
Beastmaster 17 8 4.44%
Chieftain 16 6 4.18%
Bristleback 16 3 4.18%
Storm Spirit 14 9 3.66%
Skeleton King 14 6 3.66%
Rogue Knight 14 5 3.66%
Alchemist 13 9 3.39%
Oblivion 13 8 3.39%
Keeper of the Light 12 4 3.13%
Butcher 12 8 3.13%
Dwarven Sniper 11 6 2.87%
Prophet 11 7 2.87%
Pandaren Brewmaster 10 4 2.61%
Necro'lic 9 4 2.35%
Omniknight 8 5 2.09%
Lone Druid 8 2 2.09%
Witch Doctor 8 4 2.09%
Phantom Lancer 7 6 1.83%
Anti-Mage 7 4 1.83%
Invoker 7 3 1.83%
Pit Lord 7 3 1.83%
Obsidian Destroyer 6 4 1.57%
Sacred Warrior 5 4 1.31%
Magnataur 5 1 1.31%
Drow Ranger 5 3 1.31%
Twin Head Dragon 5 3 1.31%
Geomancer 5 3 1.31%
Bounty Hunter 5 2 1.31%
Gorgon 5 2 1.31%
Moon Rider 5 2 1.31%
Chaos Knight 5 2 1.31%
Treant Protector 5 1 1.31%
Lycanthrope 4 2 1.04%
Goblin Techies 3 2 0.78%
Phantom Assassin 3 2 0.78%
Windrunner 3 1 0.78%
Troll Warlord 3 1 0.78%
Faceless Void 3 1 0.78%
Stealth Assassin 3 0 0.78%
Lightning Revenant 2 1 0.52%
Templar Assassin 2 2 0.52%
Night Stalker 2 1 0.52%
Centaur Warchief 2 1 0.52%
Nerubian Weaver 2 0 0.52%
Naga Siren 1 1 0.26%
Ursa Warrior 1 0 0.26%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0 0.00%

Win rate

.Hero Games picked Games Won Win rate
Templar Assassin 2 2 100.00%
Naga Siren 1 1 100.00%
Phantom Lancer 7 6 85.71%
Sacred Warrior 5 4 80.00%
Batrider 27 20 74.07%
Shadow Priest 34 24 70.59%
Alchemist 13 9 69.23%
Juggernaut 24 16 66.67%
Butcher 12 8 66.67%
Obsidian Destroyer 6 4 66.67%
Goblin Techies 3 2 66.67%
Phantom Assassin 3 2 66.67%
Storm Spirit 14 9 64.29%
Prophet 11 7 63.64%
Broodmother 32 20 62.50%
Bloodseeker 24 15 62.50%
Silencer 24 15 62.50%
Omniknight 8 5 62.50%
Oblivion 13 8 61.54%
Holy Knight 62 38 61.29%
Drow Ranger 5 3 60.00%
Twin Head Dragon 5 3 60.00%
Geomancer 5 3 60.00%
Enchantress 67 39 58.21%
Netherdrake 62 36 58.06%
Nerubian Assassin 31 18 58.06%
Anti-Mage 7 4 57.14%
Bane Elemental 92 52 56.52%
Earthshaker 218 123 56.42%
Ogre Magi 33 18 54.55%
Dwarven Sniper 11 6 54.55%
Spectre 28 15 53.57%
Lord of Avernus 55 29 52.73%
Venomancer 21 11 52.38%
Priestess of the Moon 305 158 51.80%
Tinker 60 31 51.67%
Clockwerk 80 41 51.25%
Necrolyte 73 37 50.68%
Witch Doctor 8 4 50.00%
Lycanthrope 4 2 50.00%
Lightning Revenant 2 1 50.00%
Night Stalker 2 1 50.00%
Centaur Warchief 2 1 50.00%
Morphling 101 50 49.50%
Warlock 175 86 49.14%
Crystal Maiden 217 106 48.85%
Slithereen Guard 33 16 48.48%
Sand King 227 110 48.46%
Faerie Dragon 151 73 48.34%
Shadow Fiend 55 26 47.27%
Beastmaster 17 8 47.06%
Enigma 81 38 46.91%
Demon Witch 169 78 46.15%
Tormented Soul 26 12 46.15%
Lord of Olympia 197 90 45.69%
Death Prophet 44 20 45.45%
Shadow Shaman 104 47 45.19%
Undying 31 14 45.16%
Necro'lic 9 4 44.44%
Dark Seer 25 11 44.00%
Admiral Proudmoore 138 60 43.48%
Dragon Knight 23 10 43.48%
Slayer 35 15 42.86%
Skeleton King 14 6 42.86%
Invoker 7 3 42.86%
Pit Lord 7 3 42.86%
Vengeful Spirit 19 8 42.11%
Lifestealer 42 17 40.48%
Pandaren Brewmaster 10 4 40.00%
Bounty Hunter 5 2 40.00%
Gorgon 5 2 40.00%
Moon Rider 5 2 40.00%
Chaos Knight 5 2 40.00%
Stone Giant 21 8 38.10%
Tidehunter 66 25 37.88%
Axe 66 25 37.88%
Chieftain 16 6 37.50%
Doom Bringer 19 7 36.84%
Lich 28 10 35.71%
Rogue Knight 14 5 35.71%
Keeper of the Light 12 4 33.33%
Windrunner 3 1 33.33%
Troll Warlord 3 1 33.33%
Faceless Void 3 1 33.33%
Queen of Pain 22 7 31.82%
Lone Druid 8 2 25.00%
Magnataur 5 1 20.00%
Treant Protector 5 1 20.00%
Bristleback 16 3 18.75%
Stealth Assassin 3 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 2 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 1 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0 0.00%


Last 375 games: Predominantly version 6.67c

Ban information available for 263 games


Bans

.Hero Games Banned Ban chance
Broodmother 204 77.57%
Slithereen Guard 170 64.64%
Storm Spirit 160 60.84%
Oblivion 145 55.13%
Necro'lic 133 50.57%
Doom Bringer 132 50.19%
Alchemist 115 43.73%
Gorgon 106 40.30%
Witch Doctor 80 30.42%
Earthshaker 75 28.52%
Beastmaster 69 26.24%
Morphling 68 25.86%
Silencer 61 23.19%
Tidehunter 53 20.15%
Vengeful Spirit 52 19.77%
Phantom Lancer 52 19.77%
Pandaren Brewmaster 43 16.35%
Drow Ranger 42 15.97%
Dark Seer 38 14.45%
Shadow Fiend 36 13.69%
Enigma 34 12.93%
Admiral Proudmoore 32 12.17%
Crystal Maiden 31 11.79%
Windrunner 21 7.98%
Necrolyte 20 7.60%
Priestess of the Moon 19 7.22%
Demon Witch 17 6.46%
Rogue Knight 16 6.08%
Holy Knight 14 5.32%
Shadow Shaman 13 4.94%
Warlock 11 4.18%
Nerubian Assassin 6 2.28%
Sand King 3 1.14%
Geomancer 3 1.14%
Spectre 3 1.14%
Templar Assassin 3 1.14%
Dragon Knight 2 0.76%
Keeper of the Light 2 0.76%
Faceless Void 2 0.76%
Axe 2 0.76%
Anti-Mage 1 0.38%
Venomancer 1 0.38%
Lich 1 0.38%
Obsidian Destroyer 1 0.38%
Netherdrake 1 0.38%
Phantom Assassin 1 0.38%
Bounty Hunter 1 0.38%
Lifestealer 1 0.38%
Faerie Dragon 1 0.38%
Tinker 1 0.38%
Clockwerk 1 0.38%
Goblin Techies 1 0.38%
Shadow Priest 1 0.38%
Stealth Assassin 1 0.38%
Troll Warlord 1 0.38%
Lone Druid 1 0.38%
Spiritbreaker 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0.00%
Pit Lord 0 0.00%
Centaur Warchief 0 0.00%
Chieftain 0 0.00%
Twin Head Dragon 0 0.00%
Moon Rider 0 0.00%
Lord of Avernus 0 0.00%
Night Stalker 0 0.00%
Batrider 0 0.00%
Prophet 0 0.00%
Slayer 0 0.00%
Skeleton King 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 0 0.00%
Enchantress 0 0.00%
Naga Siren 0 0.00%
Ogre Magi 0 0.00%
Lycanthrope 0 0.00%
Treant Protector 0 0.00%
Queen of Pain 0 0.00%
Stone Giant 0 0.00%
Juggernaut 0 0.00%
Omniknight 0 0.00%
Lord of Olympia 0 0.00%
Dwarven Sniper 0 0.00%
Lightning Revenant 0 0.00%
Undying 0 0.00%
Sacred Warrior 0 0.00%
Bane Elemental 0 0.00%
Bloodseeker 0 0.00%
Invoker 0 0.00%
Bristleback 0 0.00%
Death Prophet 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 0 0.00%
Tormented Soul 0 0.00%
Butcher 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0.00%

Picks

.Hero Games picked Games Won Pick chance
Crystal Maiden 254 129 67.73%
Vengeful Spirit 250 139 66.67%
Earthshaker 231 110 61.60%
Demon Witch 187 87 49.87%
Shadow Fiend 182 92 48.53%
Priestess of the Moon 176 86 46.93%
Witch Doctor 164 66 43.73%
Admiral Proudmoore 140 64 37.33%
Windrunner 117 57 31.20%
Drow Ranger 114 60 30.40%
Morphling 113 55 30.13%
Rogue Knight 97 48 25.87%
Storm Spirit 96 55 25.60%
Necrolyte 93 47 24.80%
Sand King 93 50 24.80%
Beastmaster 85 49 22.67%
Tidehunter 81 29 21.60%
Gorgon 78 37 20.80%
Oblivion 75 34 20.00%
Warlock 71 35 18.93%
Shadow Shaman 55 30 14.67%
Faerie Dragon 55 24 14.67%
Enigma 53 28 14.13%
Tinker 53 22 14.13%
Slithereen Guard 51 25 13.60%
Pandaren Brewmaster 51 29 13.60%
Dark Seer 48 25 12.80%
Alchemist 41 24 10.93%
Stone Giant 37 17 9.87%
Phantom Lancer 34 16 9.07%
Broodmother 30 14 8.00%
Doom Bringer 29 14 7.73%
Necro'lic 25 19 6.67%
Spectre 24 11 6.40%
Prophet 24 13 6.40%
Slayer 24 12 6.40%
Lord of Olympia 23 9 6.13%
Dwarven Sniper 23 9 6.13%
Silencer 20 8 5.33%
Holy Knight 20 11 5.33%
Netherdrake 19 10 5.07%
Twin Head Dragon 18 12 4.80%
Keeper of the Light 17 10 4.53%
Lich 17 10 4.53%
Queen of Pain 17 8 4.53%
Lightning Revenant 17 6 4.53%
Templar Assassin 16 7 4.27%
Obsidian Destroyer 16 9 4.27%
Lifestealer 15 7 4.00%
Clockwerk 14 5 3.73%
Batrider 14 8 3.73%
Bane Elemental 14 4 3.73%
Death Prophet 14 2 3.73%
Shadow Priest 12 3 3.20%
Anti-Mage 11 8 2.93%
Centaur Warchief 11 8 2.93%
Chieftain 11 8 2.93%
Dragon Knight 10 6 2.67%
Juggernaut 10 4 2.67%
Bristleback 9 2 2.40%
Invoker 8 2 2.13%
Bloodseeker 7 2 1.87%
Faceless Void 6 2 1.60%
Venomancer 6 4 1.60%
Stealth Assassin 6 1 1.60%
Skeleton King 6 3 1.60%
Ursa Warrior 6 3 1.60%
Enchantress 6 3 1.60%
Undying 6 2 1.60%
Lord of Avernus 5 3 1.33%
Night Stalker 5 3 1.33%
Omniknight 5 2 1.33%
Geomancer 4 2 1.07%
Phantom Assassin 4 2 1.07%
Naga Siren 4 2 1.07%
Goblin Techies 3 1 0.80%
Moon Rider 3 2 0.80%
Sacred Warrior 3 1 0.80%
Nerubian Weaver 3 0 0.80%
Tormented Soul 3 0 0.80%
Nerubian Assassin 2 1 0.53%
Bounty Hunter 2 1 0.53%
Troll Warlord 2 0 0.53%
Spiritbreaker 2 2 0.53%
Ogre Magi 2 1 0.53%
Lycanthrope 2 1 0.53%
Treant Protector 2 1 0.53%
Butcher 2 0 0.53%
Axe 1 0 0.27%
Chaos Knight 1 1 0.27%
Pit Lord 1 1 0.27%
Ancient Apparition 1 0 0.27%
Murloc 1 0 0.27%
Lone Druid 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0 0.00%

Win rate

.Hero Games picked Games Won Win rate
Spiritbreaker 2 2 100.00%
Chaos Knight 1 1 100.00%
Pit Lord 1 1 100.00%
Necro'lic 25 19 76.00%
Anti-Mage 11 8 72.73%
Centaur Warchief 11 8 72.73%
Chieftain 11 8 72.73%
Twin Head Dragon 18 12 66.67%
Venomancer 6 4 66.67%
Moon Rider 3 2 66.67%
Dragon Knight 10 6 60.00%
Lord of Avernus 5 3 60.00%
Night Stalker 5 3 60.00%
Keeper of the Light 17 10 58.82%
Lich 17 10 58.82%
Alchemist 41 24 58.54%
Beastmaster 85 49 57.65%
Storm Spirit 96 55 57.29%
Batrider 14 8 57.14%
Pandaren Brewmaster 51 29 56.86%
Obsidian Destroyer 16 9 56.25%
Vengeful Spirit 250 139 55.60%
Holy Knight 20 11 55.00%
Shadow Shaman 55 30 54.55%
Prophet 24 13 54.17%
Sand King 93 50 53.76%
Enigma 53 28 52.83%
Drow Ranger 114 60 52.63%
Netherdrake 19 10 52.63%
Dark Seer 48 25 52.08%
Crystal Maiden 254 129 50.79%
Shadow Fiend 182 92 50.55%
Necrolyte 93 47 50.54%
Slayer 24 12 50.00%
Skeleton King 6 3 50.00%
Ursa Warrior 6 3 50.00%
Enchantress 6 3 50.00%
Geomancer 4 2 50.00%
Phantom Assassin 4 2 50.00%
Naga Siren 4 2 50.00%
Nerubian Assassin 2 1 50.00%
Bounty Hunter 2 1 50.00%
Ogre Magi 2 1 50.00%
Lycanthrope 2 1 50.00%
Treant Protector 2 1 50.00%
Rogue Knight 97 48 49.48%
Warlock 71 35 49.30%
Slithereen Guard 51 25 49.02%
Priestess of the Moon 176 86 48.86%
Windrunner 117 57 48.72%
Morphling 113 55 48.67%
Doom Bringer 29 14 48.28%
Earthshaker 231 110 47.62%
Gorgon 78 37 47.44%
Phantom Lancer 34 16 47.06%
Queen of Pain 17 8 47.06%
Broodmother 30 14 46.67%
Lifestealer 15 7 46.67%
Demon Witch 187 87 46.52%
Stone Giant 37 17 45.95%
Spectre 24 11 45.83%
Admiral Proudmoore 140 64 45.71%
Oblivion 75 34 45.33%
Templar Assassin 16 7 43.75%
Faerie Dragon 55 24 43.64%
Tinker 53 22 41.51%
Witch Doctor 164 66 40.24%
Silencer 20 8 40.00%
Juggernaut 10 4 40.00%
Omniknight 5 2 40.00%
Lord of Olympia 23 9 39.13%
Dwarven Sniper 23 9 39.13%
Tidehunter 81 29 35.80%
Clockwerk 14 5 35.71%
Lightning Revenant 17 6 35.29%
Faceless Void 6 2 33.33%
Undying 6 2 33.33%
Goblin Techies 3 1 33.33%
Sacred Warrior 3 1 33.33%
Bane Elemental 14 4 28.57%
Bloodseeker 7 2 28.57%
Shadow Priest 12 3 25.00%
Invoker 8 2 25.00%
Bristleback 9 2 22.22%
Stealth Assassin 6 1 16.67%
Death Prophet 14 2 14.29%
Nerubian Weaver 3 0 0.00%
Tormented Soul 3 0 0.00%
Troll Warlord 2 0 0.00%
Butcher 2 0 0.00%
Axe 1 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 1 0 0.00%
Murloc 1 0 0.00%
Lone Druid 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0 0.00%


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Hero Games Banned Ban chance
Necro'lic 29 80.56%
Broodmother 28 77.78%
Doom Bringer 26 72.22%
Oblivion 25 69.44%
Storm Spirit 24 66.67%
Beastmaster 18 50.00%
Morphling 15 41.67%
Alchemist 14 38.89%
Slithereen Guard 12 33.33%
Earthshaker 11 30.56%
Necrolyte 10 27.78%
Windrunner 9 25.00%
Enigma 9 25.00%
Holy Knight 8 22.22%
Vengeful Spirit 8 22.22%
Witch Doctor 8 22.22%
Dark Seer 8 22.22%
Gorgon 6 16.67%
Drow Ranger 6 16.67%
Demon Witch 3 8.33%
Shadow Fiend 3 8.33%
Crystal Maiden 2 5.56%
Templar Assassin 2 5.56%
Undying 1 2.78%
Tidehunter 1 2.78%
Phantom Lancer 1 2.78%
Pandaren Brewmaster 1 2.78%
Lord of Olympia 0 0.00%
Lord of Avernus 0 0.00%
Obsidian Destroyer 0 0.00%
Netherdrake 0 0.00%
Dragon Knight 0 0.00%
Rogue Knight 0 0.00%
Sand King 0 0.00%
Priestess of the Moon 0 0.00%
Clockwerk 0 0.00%
Enchantress 0 0.00%
Slayer 0 0.00%
Admiral Proudmoore 0 0.00%
Twin Head Dragon 0 0.00%
Dwarven Sniper 0 0.00%
Shadow Shaman 0 0.00%
Batrider 0 0.00%
Warlock 0 0.00%
Tinker 0 0.00%
Centaur Warchief 0 0.00%
Naga Siren 0 0.00%
Queen of Pain 0 0.00%
Stone Giant 0 0.00%
Pit Lord 0 0.00%
Keeper of the Light 0 0.00%
Silencer 0 0.00%
Lifestealer 0 0.00%
Lich 0 0.00%
Bane Elemental 0 0.00%
Death Prophet 0 0.00%
Lone Druid 0 0.00%
Prophet 0 0.00%
Spectre 0 0.00%
Troll Warlord 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 0 0.00%
Nerubian Assassin 0 0.00%
Venomancer 0 0.00%
Tormented Soul 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0.00%
Butcher 0 0.00%
Goblin Techies 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0.00%
Axe 0 0.00%
Invoker 0 0.00%
Shadow Priest 0 0.00%
Omniknight 0 0.00%
Geomancer 0 0.00%
Moon Rider 0 0.00%
Bounty Hunter 0 0.00%
Juggernaut 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0.00%
Bloodseeker 0 0.00%
Faerie Dragon 0 0.00%
Chieftain 0 0.00%
Skeleton King 0 0.00%
Anti-Mage 0 0.00%
Night Stalker 0 0.00%
Faceless Void 0 0.00%
Lightning Revenant 0 0.00%
Ogre Magi 0 0.00%
Stealth Assassin 0 0.00%
Bristleback 0 0.00%
Phantom Assassin 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 0 0.00%
Sacred Warrior 0 0.00%
Lycanthrope 0 0.00%
Treant Protector 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0.00%
Picks

Hero Games picked Games Won Pick chance
Vengeful Spirit 31 17 75.61%
Witch Doctor 29 13 70.73%
Crystal Maiden 24 10 58.54%
Shadow Fiend 21 10 51.22%
Earthshaker 20 8 48.78%
Necrolyte 18 12 43.90%
Windrunner 18 8 43.90%
Demon Witch 18 11 43.90%
Drow Ranger 17 7 41.46%
Morphling 16 8 39.02%
Alchemist 14 6 34.15%
Dark Seer 14 6 34.15%
Gorgon 14 7 34.15%
Priestess of the Moon 13 8 31.71%
Sand King 12 8 29.27%
Oblivion 10 5 24.39%
Storm Spirit 10 5 24.39%
Enigma 10 4 24.39%
Admiral Proudmoore 9 4 21.95%
Doom Bringer 7 4 17.07%
Beastmaster 7 5 17.07%
Slithereen Guard 7 5 17.07%
Shadow Shaman 7 2 17.07%
Broodmother 6 5 14.63%
Holy Knight 6 4 14.63%
Necro'lic 5 2 12.20%
Rogue Knight 5 4 12.20%
Warlock 5 0 12.20%
Clockwerk 4 2 9.76%
Batrider 4 1 9.76%
Tinker 4 0 9.76%
Templar Assassin 3 1 7.32%
Undying 3 1 7.32%
Tidehunter 3 0 7.32%
Twin Head Dragon 3 1 7.32%
Dwarven Sniper 3 1 7.32%
Lord of Olympia 2 2 4.88%
Lord of Avernus 2 2 4.88%
Obsidian Destroyer 2 2 4.88%
Enchantress 2 1 4.88%
Slayer 2 1 4.88%
Centaur Warchief 2 0 4.88%
Phantom Lancer 1 0 2.44%
Pandaren Brewmaster 1 0 2.44%
Netherdrake 1 1 2.44%
Dragon Knight 1 1 2.44%
Naga Siren 1 0 2.44%
Queen of Pain 1 0 2.44%
Stone Giant 1 0 2.44%
Pit Lord 1 0 2.44%
Keeper of the Light 1 0 2.44%
Silencer 1 0 2.44%
Lifestealer 1 0 2.44%
Lich 1 0 2.44%
Bane Elemental 1 0 2.44%
Death Prophet 1 0 2.44%
Lone Druid 1 0 2.44%
Prophet 1 0 2.44%
Spectre 1 0 2.44%
Lightning Revenant 1 0 2.44%
Troll Warlord 0 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 0 0 0.00%
Nerubian Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Venomancer 0 0 0.00%
Tormented Soul 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Butcher 0 0 0.00%
Goblin Techies 0 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0 0.00%
Axe 0 0 0.00%
Invoker 0 0 0.00%
Shadow Priest 0 0 0.00%
Omniknight 0 0 0.00%
Geomancer 0 0 0.00%
Moon Rider 0 0 0.00%
Bounty Hunter 0 0 0.00%
Juggernaut 0 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0 0.00%
Bloodseeker 0 0 0.00%
Faerie Dragon 0 0 0.00%
Chieftain 0 0 0.00%
Skeleton King 0 0 0.00%
Anti-Mage 0 0 0.00%
Night Stalker 0 0 0.00%
Faceless Void 0 0 0.00%
Ogre Magi 0 0 0.00%
Stealth Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Bristleback 0 0 0.00%
Phantom Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 0 0 0.00%
Sacred Warrior 0 0 0.00%
Lycanthrope 0 0 0.00%
Treant Protector 0 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0 0.00%

Win rate

Hero Games picked Games Won Win rate
Lord of Olympia 2 2 100.00%
Lord of Avernus 2 2 100.00%
Obsidian Destroyer 2 2 100.00%
Netherdrake 1 1 100.00%
Dragon Knight 1 1 100.00%
Broodmother 6 5 83.33%
Rogue Knight 5 4 80.00%
Beastmaster 7 5 71.43%
Slithereen Guard 7 5 71.43%
Necrolyte 18 12 66.67%
Sand King 12 8 66.67%
Holy Knight 6 4 66.67%
Priestess of the Moon 13 8 61.54%
Demon Witch 18 11 61.11%
Doom Bringer 7 4 57.14%
Vengeful Spirit 31 17 54.84%
Morphling 16 8 50.00%
Gorgon 14 7 50.00%
Oblivion 10 5 50.00%
Storm Spirit 10 5 50.00%
Clockwerk 4 2 50.00%
Enchantress 2 1 50.00%
Slayer 2 1 50.00%
Shadow Fiend 21 10 47.62%
Witch Doctor 29 13 44.83%
Windrunner 18 8 44.44%
Admiral Proudmoore 9 4 44.44%
Alchemist 14 6 42.86%
Dark Seer 14 6 42.86%
Crystal Maiden 24 10 41.67%
Drow Ranger 17 7 41.18%
Earthshaker 20 8 40.00%
Enigma 10 4 40.00%
Necro'lic 5 2 40.00%
Templar Assassin 3 1 33.33%
Undying 3 1 33.33%
Twin Head Dragon 3 1 33.33%
Dwarven Sniper 3 1 33.33%
Shadow Shaman 7 2 28.57%
Batrider 4 1 25.00%
Warlock 5 0 0.00%
Tinker 4 0 0.00%
Tidehunter 3 0 0.00%
Centaur Warchief 2 0 0.00%
Phantom Lancer 1 0 0.00%
Pandaren Brewmaster 1 0 0.00%
Naga Siren 1 0 0.00%
Queen of Pain 1 0 0.00%
Stone Giant 1 0 0.00%
Pit Lord 1 0 0.00%
Keeper of the Light 1 0 0.00%
Silencer 1 0 0.00%
Lifestealer 1 0 0.00%
Lich 1 0 0.00%
Bane Elemental 1 0 0.00%
Death Prophet 1 0 0.00%
Lone Druid 1 0 0.00%
Prophet 1 0 0.00%
Spectre 1 0 0.00%
Lightning Revenant 1 0 0.00%
Troll Warlord 0 0 0.00%
Ursa Warrior 0 0 0.00%
Nerubian Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Venomancer 0 0 0.00%
Tormented Soul 0 0 0.00%
Soul Keeper 0 0 0.00%
Butcher 0 0 0.00%
Goblin Techies 0 0 0.00%
Chaos Knight 0 0 0.00%
Axe 0 0 0.00%
Invoker 0 0 0.00%
Shadow Priest 0 0 0.00%
Omniknight 0 0 0.00%
Geomancer 0 0 0.00%
Moon Rider 0 0 0.00%
Bounty Hunter 0 0 0.00%
Juggernaut 0 0 0.00%
Ancient Apparition 0 0 0.00%
Bone Fletcher 0 0 0.00%
Murloc 0 0 0.00%
Bloodseeker 0 0 0.00%
Faerie Dragon 0 0 0.00%
Chieftain 0 0 0.00%
Skeleton King 0 0 0.00%
Anti-Mage 0 0 0.00%
Night Stalker 0 0 0.00%
Faceless Void 0 0 0.00%
Ogre Magi 0 0 0.00%
Stealth Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Bristleback 0 0 0.00%
Phantom Assassin 0 0 0.00%
Nerubian Weaver 0 0 0.00%
Sacred Warrior 0 0 0.00%
Lycanthrope 0 0 0.00%
Treant Protector 0 0 0.00%
Spiritbreaker 0 0 0.00%
Magnataur 0 0 0.00%


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Good work though. Commenting later.
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Very nice material, very useful thank you and good job.
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I was wondering why there was such a shortage of drow picks until I read that this was over a full year.
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Bara imba 75% win rate nerf now.
Nice read though, thnx.
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Hey, this sure is the masterpiece thread in playdota.com !!!!!!!!
Keep up the good job dude

Venge's win rate is 57 % in 1394 game, statistics prove he is the key pick in game nowadays.
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Conclusion 1 : Mirana / Earthshaker are the perfectly balanced heroes , seeing how they have a high enough pick rate to call the statistics viable, they have a win rate of 50%.

Conclusion 2 : Seeing the rest of the table, statistics lie. Bristleback with 33% win rate? Lower than void / gondar / axe? Pathetic if you ask me

Conclusion 3 : Pick Bara, he is imba. Statistics prove it
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Conclusion 3 : Pick Bara, he is imba. Statistics prove it
yes, if you pick Bara in 4 of every 3121 games. You will win 75% of the time.

it is a good look over, it helps to show some of the trends that have occurred since 6.59d.
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yes, if you pick Bara in 4 of every 3121 games. You will win 75% of the time.

it is a good look over, it helps to show some of the trends that have occurred since 6.59d.
1)It obviously was a sarcasm
2)Slark is picked in 4 games too but he has a 75% lose rate.
3)It may "prove" that some heroes that are considered totally worthless and a bunch of shit actually do something (im not reffering to barathrum here cause obviously 4 games mean absolutely nothing)
4)It was actually 2053 games , dunno where you got your numbers
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2053 is the number of games including bans.
3121 is the total number of replays analyzed
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lol techie winning 14/22 times, that should shut up some of the tards in the dota chat forum.
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I think I solved it: some noobs posted their 1v1 bara vs slark series.
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lol techie winning 14/22 times, that should shut up some of the tards in the dota chat forum.
Why do you think he only has been picked in 22 games out of 3000+ games?
Of those 14 wins it could be because of techies simply won the game or because there was a big skill difference. Bara has 75% win rate, that doesn't mean he's a good hero.

Anyway, nice statistics. Most interesting part is of course the statistics of the current version.
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I think I solved it: some noobs posted their 1v1 bara vs slark series.
What this doesn't consider is that some games are -ardm (i remember at least a dozen of them) so the hero "picks" that are showed in the page of the replay are completely worthless.
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lol techie winning 14/22 times, that should shut up some of the tards in the dota chat forum.
Except that small sample is irrelevant. And if you look closer he was only picked 3 times out of the last 375 games (6.67c), and he only won once. It proves exactly jack shit.

The thing that sticks out the most is Venge, clearly overpowered with a huge pick rate and very high win rate.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:09 PM   #16
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Besides the win/loss ratio, which is mostly irrelevant - this is a team game, I've won games where I played miserably and lost games where I played great, something stands out more.

Some heroes have a 70% chance of a pick/ban. And especially the pick rates around 50% are ridiculous: PotM, CM, Lion, ES, Venge basically are blocking 2.5 slots each game. It's like picking 8 heroes from the "rest of the world" (90 heroes) and picking the last 2 from these 5. And PotM - when was the last time I saw a game without PotM playing or banned?

Some heroes need to be more attractive. Even more shocking, some heroes should be just taken out (not going to happen, I know)...
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:58 PM   #17
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Thank you, what a contribution! It's interesting how the Dirge auto-bans during the 6.59 era still are enough to make him the seventh most banned hero. On the flipside, I'm surprised that Death Prophet is so low. I seem to recall that DP was imba back then as well.
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:08 PM   #18
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so they actually picked techies before this day?
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:09 PM   #19
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Interesting to see the brood bans, NA bans, and potm picks, we all new about it, at least here are some statistics.

I was wondering OP if you could share your code you composed to go through the replay files. Cause if you did this by hand, you desire a beer from all of us

As this code could be useful if shared and more statistics could be gathered.

Great work.
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:17 PM   #20
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thx for doing this
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