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Old 07-06-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default What Is The Best Items For Axe?


I Want To Know What Are The Starting Items??
Then What
Then The Core??
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:49 PM   #2
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The old Axe used to look like this for starting items:



The new Axe does this for starting items:




You then get boots and a magic wand.



Next comes blink dagger.



Next is Vanguard. This is your core build.



Next is bkb or hood and then blademail - I normally go bkb though.



OR


Drop the magic wand and get a heart and BOTs.



OR


Finally you say goodbye to vanguard and get shivas, not AC.



OR


Why Shiva's? you ask. Well it's because you are not the carry - you're an initiator. It also has great armor and adds to your bad mana pool. Shivas really helps during chasing and the addition to your mana pool makes it so that you can initiate non-stop.
The heart is for independence from the fountain and the nice addition of 1k hp.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:53 PM   #3
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Dagger is the number one item. Others include vanguard, hood, blade mail, hot, shiva, bot.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:53 PM   #4
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As Kwanz4 says above for starting, then aim for Phase -> Vanguard -> Dagger, those are his core imo, then luxuries gotta be a Shivas. Just remember your not the carry, once you've got a dagger your pretty much farmed up you just need to concentrate on initiating. Hope this helps!

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Old 07-06-2010, 08:08 PM   #5
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As Kwanz4 says above for starting, then aim for Phase -> Vanguard -> Dagger, those are his core imo, then luxuries gotta be a Shivas. Just remember your not the carry, once you've got a dagger your pretty much farmed up you just need to concentrate on initiating. Hope this helps!

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Old 07-06-2010, 08:12 PM   #6
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So why do you go BoT over Phase Kwanz4? I mean obvs late game BoT > Phase, but early ~ mid game I find phase so useful, sprinting through creep lines and the like! Im assuming your a pro axe given your in depth item explanation! Dis
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:15 PM   #7
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So why do you go BoT over Phase Kwanz4? I mean obvs late game BoT > Phase, but early ~ mid game I find phase so useful, sprinting through creep lines and the like! Im assuming your a pro axe given your in depth item explanation! Dis
You can do phase - I've done it a few times. It's just that I kind of never get around to it.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:24 PM   #8
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Start with some tangoes, stout shield and stats items, then go for a ring for vanguard, if you get good farm and kills get your dagger first and complete vanguard. My boots choice is travels, then go for Shiva and Hot, sell your vanguard and get a blade mail and the game should end after that.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:31 PM   #9
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Sometimes getting Vanguard before Blink is more rational.
Getting BKB on Axe is stupid. You want to soak up as much damage as possible, not shift the focus from yourself.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:33 PM   #10
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Sry but why BKB?
Its much better when you soak up the nukes than your carry or nukesupporters.

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Old 07-06-2010, 08:37 PM   #11
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Sometimes getting Vanguard before Blink is more rational.
Getting BKB on Axe is stupid. You want to soak up as much damage as possible, not shift the focus from yourself.
You won't get close enough without getting blink first. If you rush blink and get it early game then the 60% chance to block 20 damage along with your +20 armor from berserker's call should be sufficient. I get bkb on Axe because unlike other tanks, he can make people attack him. While under berserker's call, people from afar can nuke you down.

I agree, hood is probably best but I still get bkb for some reason.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:40 PM   #12
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Default Re: What Is The Best Items For Axe?

Vanguard lets you jungle so you could get that dagger safely.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:41 PM   #13
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Vanguard lets you jungle so you could get that dagger safely.
Stout shield does that as well.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:42 PM   #14
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Good luck farming big camps with a stout.D:
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:44 PM   #15
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Good luck farming big camps with a stout.D:
As I have done so easily the past 50 times. An early blink dagger gives you the advantage of surprise initiation.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:49 PM   #16
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Undoubtedly it does. The question is whether it is needed that much, as more or less massive team fights don't (usually) happen that early anyway.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:02 PM   #17
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start with:
+ any combinations of //
for reference, 1x 1x 2x is good.

if you're laning, lane with a ranged disabler. follow-up with your disable. if you're jungling, be sure to stack as many camps as possible and use a salve afterwards.

buy at the side shop:
2x++=

buyandat a time that's convenient for you. earlyis good if you've enough regen.

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support build:
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:10 PM   #18
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Consider Aghs if you do carry, since Axe is far from bat it.
€: oops, too slow. though i wouldn't advise soul ring.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:46 PM   #19
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Start you can go for Stout, 3 GG branches, a Tango and a Salve or basically any combination of items once it consists of a Stout shield.

Mid game you should either have one of these 2 items or if you've had a great game, Blink Dagger or Vanguard. Your invent should look like Boots, Vanguard, Magic stick or Boots, Stout shield/ Poor man's shield, Dagger, Magic stick.

Late-mid game you should have Phase, Vanguard, Hood, Dagger.

Lategame you would want BoT, Dagger, HoT, Assault Cuirass, Pipe and Radiance/Blademail.

PS: I knew the fact that Axe's Counter helix procs before an attack but I couldn't figure out for myself (thanks to some mechguy) that if you get Butterfly, you'd still be able to spin just as much even if the attack missed. Although I've never tried it myself I think it might be viable if you want to increase your tanking abilities a bit without recieving dmg.
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:06 PM   #20
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First get Dagger. Then, when you have decided what to get (Hood or Vang) you get the tanking part of the items, means ring and stout shield or Helm of Dorminator. Then you go Phase Boots and then finish the item. Then Shiva, Heart, Blademail and then you must decide between AC, Radiance, and a second heart. (Maybe gem ?!)
If you got hood -> pipe.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:39 AM   #21
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thnx every one u really helped me...thnx alot
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:41 AM   #22
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:52 AM   #23
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His core is basically just Dagger. You can add stuff like Vanguard/Hood, Curaiss, Radiance, Heart, Shiva's after that. Really depends on the lineup what extension items you would go for.
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Consider Aghs if you do carry, since Axe is far from bat it.
€: oops, too slow. though i wouldn't advise soul ring.
I get SR so that you've the mana to repeatedly blink (75 mana) + call (110 mana), and SR covers 125 mana for 150 health. Axe masses regen and health so it's not a big deal, plus it adds more mana and health regen.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:14 AM   #25
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Start you can go for Stout, 3 GG branches, a Tango and a Salve or basically any combination of items once it consists of a Stout shield.

Mid game you should either have one of these 2 items or if you've had a great game, Blink Dagger or Vanguard. Your invent should look like Boots, Vanguard, Magic stick or Boots, Stout shield/ Poor man's shield, Dagger, Magic stick.

Late-mid game you should have Phase, Vanguard, Hood, Dagger.

Lategame you would want BoT, Dagger, HoT, Assault Cuirass, Pipe and Radiance/Blademail.

PS: I knew the fact that Axe's Counter helix procs before an attack but I couldn't figure out for myself (thanks to some mechguy) that if you get Butterfly, you'd still be able to spin just as much even if the attack missed. Although I've never tried it myself I think it might be viable if you want to increase your tanking abilities a bit without recieving dmg.
if I am having a very good game I sometimes do get butterfly.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:41 AM   #26
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Wouldn't it be better to leave it as a Talisman of Evasion? 5% evasion is not a big deal. And you could be halfway to cuirass/shivas/.
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:24 PM   #27
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Agree with all of Kwanz4 said, except for not using phase boots and bkb. Should get hood and upgrade to pipe and phase boots for early-mid game. And replace blade mail with assualt cuirass. Helps push towers and nice atkspeed/armour. Blademail is a good choice though, in situations with a hero like Ursa.
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1-2 stouts rege
Vanguard, boots, dagger...
Heart/AC (people underestimate how great it is for axe, makes your spins to do more damage and you are rock against physical dmg)

I highly desagree of hood on him, if you buy hood, then your squishy teammates will be nuked. Pipe it's useful, but only in a few situations.
Instead,get a point booster or buy a blademail or something to get fat

If you die initiating, because they dagoned you, fingered, lagunabladed, etc. go drink something with a smile on your face, cause probably your team wins the teamfight easily.
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