Originally Posted by doomsheep
vanguard is good because of alche's low armor. the mechanics are that way, blocks are counted before armor.
use sobi mask to get infinite mana. just drop and pick it up after you used ult and it'll increase the mana regen from your ult by 50%.
heart lets you stay alive even after your ulti. also gives you 40 damage and decent hp. problem is that it costs a lot.
AC is obviously great.
blink dagger is nice but i'd say situational.
for DPS get bkb, hotd, deso, mkb, buriza, basher. there isn't a big difference in the overall dps/gold ratio but they all do it a little different.
No. Vanguard is exactly as good on a high armor hero as on a low armor hero. Lets do a simple calculation. If D is damage dealt and B is block damage, and A is the reduction due to armor then:
Dmg taken without block: D*(1-A)
Dmg taken with block: (D-B)*(1-A)
Ratio of dmg taken with block to damage taken w/o block = (D-B) /D.
The armor factor has been eliminated.
Vanguard complements high armor, and high armor complements vanguard. That's why vanguard DK or Shiva's Tidehunter is such a beastly tank.
If you don't believe the efficiency of armor and damage block, do the following tests in the single player. Pick Tide , lvlup him to level 25 and buy a Shiva's, then go autoattack the first enemy tower. Check it with both Kraken shell and shiva, then without Shiva, then without either Shiva or Kraken. You'll be amazed how much of a difference it makes.
Heart is awful. It costs way too much for what it gives you- and his ultimate is the same thing as heart anyway , with regen that WORKS in combat. It's a totally fail item on him period.
Alchemist w/o armor is just a fail tank period. It is about as useful as a boots+wards feeding Tidehunter. Now I know that competitives have their own reasons for doing boots+wards feeding Tidehunters or boots+wards feeding Alchemists for that matter since they don't need any item to cast their spells. Just that if you did want to make him a tank carry, armor needs to be the #1 priority over anything else.