[STR-Sent]Obelix Greatpaw - Mehir Deliveryman

[fremdlaender]

Menhir Deliveryman
Obelix Greatpaw

• Background Story
• Hero Introduction
• Changelog

Obelix had once a peaceful live in his village in the Stontalon mountains as a menhir deliveryman until a Tauren druid arrived. The druid needed a rare herb to brew a magic potion that would allow a better connection to the earth spirits if you drink it. Obelix was very curious and wanted to see this potion but while trying to look into the cauldron he fell into it. When the druid noticed what happened to Obelix and saw that he gained the power to control the earth at his will, Obelix remained the last defender against the hordes of rampaging Scourge which were fast taking over the countryside. While the Druid remained to protect the village with his newfound potion from the surrounding troops of the legion, Obelix set forth to find and destroy the Frozen Throne to end the neverending threat to his village.

This hero was created for the Complete the Hero 8 contest.
The suggestion won by accident, I had this hero idea floating around in my head for a long time (also the model) and the ultimate skill for the contest was very fitting to it. That's how this hero came into these forums.

To inform you about the contest, the ultimate ability was given and the contestants had to make a fitting hero to it, from model to skills.
The judges chose a certain 'wild card' model, which would recieve 5 bonus points, that's why my suggestion finally came out on top of this competition.

I have to thank king_james and chatpiety123 for hosting the contest (and creating the ultimate skill?) , the judges and all the other contestants for applying.

07/11/2010

• Posted hero suggestion

07/27/2011

• Improved Layout
• Reworked Terraforming Bash. Rather than reducing armor, the crater now speeds up units who walk into it and slows down units who enter it.
• Reworked Rolling Stone. Instead of slowing enemies who stand in a field of shattered menhir, it reduces armor.

Strength - 22 + [2.4]
Agility - 15 + [1.4]
Intelligence - 16 + [2.0]

Affiliation:	Sentinel
Theme:	Menhirs, Geomancy
Role:	Initiator, Physical AoE Damage Dealer
Damage:	49 - 54
Armor:	3.3
Movespeed:	300
Starting HP/MP:	568/208
Attack Range:	128 (melee)

• Menhirism
• Terraforming Bash
• Cave In
• Rolling Stone

• Menhirism
• Paw Push

Type: Active Targeting: None Hotkey: E

Obelix summones a menhir right in front of him using the ancient pandaren earth magic. The boulder deals minor damage and causes a ministun in a small AoE. The boulder lasts for up to 10 seconds or until it is destroyed. The boulder requires 3 hits to be destroyed.

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	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	25	5 sec	N/A	150	10 sec	30 damage, 0.1 sec ministun
2	25	4 sec	N/A	150	10 sec	40 damage, 0.1 sec ministun
3	25	3 sec	N/A	150	10 sec	50 damage, 0.1 sec ministun
4	25	2 sec	N/A	150	10 sec	60 damage, 0.1 sec ministun

Notes:

• Damage type: physical
• The menhir can block pathes
• The menhirs are magic immune
• The menhir uses the model of the ladder boulder (the rocks which lie around everywhere)
• Unlocks subskill: Paw Push

Type: Active Targeting: Menhirs Hotkey: W

Obelix uses his earthen power to push a boulder in the direction he is facing. If the boulder hits an enemy unit it gets stunned and damaged.

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	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	60	5 sec	150	N/A	2 sec	pushes 600 units, 50 damage, 2 sec stun
2	70	5 sec	150	N/A	2 sec	pushes 600 units, 100 damage, 2 sec stun
3	80	5 sec	150	N/A	2 sec	pushes 600 units, 150 damage, 2 sec stun
4	90	5 sec	150	N/A	2 sec	pushes 600 units, 200 damage, 2 sec stun

Notes:

• Damage type: physical
• The spell can only target Obelix's menhirs
• The menhir travels with a hig speed (~1000 MS)
• If the boulder hits an enemy, the enemy gets stunned and damaged and the boulder stops moving
• If the boulder hits an allied unit nothing happens but the boulder stops moving
• The boulder can't pass trough trees or cliffs. It will stop moving if it touches a tree or a cliff

Type: Active Targeting: Point-Target Hotkey: T

Obelix releases a mighty hit with his menhir that damages the enemies around and causes the earth to collapse. The ground in a 350 AoE falls down creating a crater. Units who walk inside the crater will be sped up, walking out of the crater will slows you down.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	95	20 sec	150	350	9 sec	50 damage, 30% speed increase/ decrease
2	110	20 sec	150	350	10 sec	100 damage, 30% speed increase/ decrease
3	125	20 sec	150	350	11 sec	150 damage, 30% speed increase/ decrease
4	140	20 sec	150	350	12 sec	200 damage, 30% speed increase/ decrease

• Damage type: physical
• While you stand in the crater you recieve the 30% miss chance malus for ranged attacks, as if you would attack an enemy standing on a cliff. This counts for every ranged unit standing in it (allies, enemies and neutrals).
• Facing the center of the crater while standing in it will speed you up, looking in the other direction will standing in it will slow you down. This will affect allies and enemies alike.
• You can of course leave the crater.

Type: Passive Targeting: None Hotkey: V

The raging spirits of the earth assist the Greatpaw in the battle against his foes. When an enemy leaves a 350 AoE of the Pandaren a quake will take place at the location of the fleeing hero damaging and slowing him and every enemy around him. The slow lasts for 3 seconds and can only affect the same enemy once every 8 seconds.

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	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	N/A	N/A	N/A	350/ 200(*)	3 sec	40 damage, 30% slow
2	N/A	N/A	N/A	350/ 200(*)	3 sec	60 damage, 30% slow
3	N/A	N/A	N/A	350/ 200(*)	3 sec	80 damage, 30% slow
4	N/A	N/A	N/A	350/ 200(*)	3 sec	100 damage, 30% slow

• Damage type: physical
• (*) AoE of the Aura/ AoE of the quake, that deals damage and slow
• Even though the aura can't affect the same enemy twice in 8 seconds, there is no limit of how many different enemies it can hit (meaning, the affected enemy was just in the AoE of the quake which hit another enemy who was running out of the Aura)
• It can affect enemies who were hit by the quake in the last 8 seconds, as long as it wasn't directly affecting him
• The quake will even affect enemies who are not moving, but leave the 350 AoE due to your movement
• For example: You run away from an enemy and he is stunned. You get 350 units away from him, so he gets slowed and damaged

Type: Active Targeting: Single-Target Hotkey: R

Obelix fuses with the earth spirits and whirls towards a target enemy. As long as he is one with the spirits he is invulnerable and able to bounce off to other enemy units or to his own menhirs. If he bounces onto a menhir it will shatter creating a field of spiked stones which damages the enemies over time and reduces their armor while they stand in there.

__	____.	________.	_______.	___.	_______.	__________________________.
	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	160	150 sec	600	600/ 500(*)	4/ 3(**)	80 damage, 30 dps, -4 armor
2	210	125 sec	600	600/ 500(*)	5/ 3(**)	130 damage, 40 dps, -6 armor
3	260	100 sec	600	[600/ 500(*)	6/ 3(**)	180 damage, 50 dps, -8 armor

• Damage type: physical
• (*)AoE of the Bounce search/ AoE of the field made of a shattered menhir
• (**)Duration of the Bouncing/ Duration of the field made of a shattered menhir
• The spell uses the same animation as Storm's Ball Lightning.
• Becomes invulnerable during the duration of the spell.
• Heros movement becomes uncontrollable.
• Casting other spells and using items is allowed during the duration.
• Can bounce to enemy units and menhirs.
• If you bounce onto a menhir it gets destroyed.
• Cancels when there are no more units or menhirs to bounce to.
• Does not bounce to unrevealed invisible units.
• Traveling speed is 600 units per second.
• Bounces off 250 units from the last target.
• Destroys trees.
• Can hit a target more than once.
• The damage of the shattered menhirs does not stack, nor does the armor reduction.

[JJE92]

Here for you again:


-skill 1 is Imo a WOGM (WOW-OMFG-Great-Move) Skill. Simple for what it does, fun to use, creative and unique. One of the very few skills I gave full scores.
-skill 2 is average-good Imo. The only thing I really like is creating a crater ^^
-skill 3 is awesome, full points as well ^^ Imo perfectly balanced due to CD
-Ult side effect is rather bad and uncreative Imo. Forced synergy, I dislike it. Makes the Ult less off an initiating move as well. Slow isnt needed, you do this with skill 3 already and 50% slow + 30% slow is simply a lot.
-Earth Panda model used in dota already. Menhirs theme is cool, though.

Gonna add more probably ^^

[Captain Planet]

This is a rather impressive hero. Good, solid skills, all original and an epic ultimate: TWO ROLFING PANDAS FTW!! (first one is Storm ofc)

[Shadow Fury]

A lulzy but epic hero.

[PuЪLiㄷEиəℳy#1]

Cool hero! Pandas will roll! I just love the Rolling Stone icon!

[kings.empire]

HRT!

Skill 1: Reminds me of one of the older CTH X contest skills where it creates an immobile unit that blocks a small area. However I like this one quite a bit more as Paw Push makes it quite a fun and unique spell. Too bad he can't paw push other units. :P

Skill 2: A war stomp like skill that creates a crater instead of slowing or stunning. Not sure how enemies lose armor by simply being in the crater...but whatevers I guess. xD

How about those who don't leave the crater in 2 seconds get sent back down in to the center? Can't run away from the mailman!

Skill 3: Lethal and deadly. No one is running away eh? Solid skill but if this hero was an actual DotA hero, insta ban hammer. xD

I would say huge slow, small duration, but that would be a little bit too reminiscent of Raijin's Overload so seems okay.

Ultimate: Mmm...a 50% slow too? Bit too much even if it is situational as no one is going to be able to flee from thing guy.

Overall: Pretty obvious how this is a CTH contest winner, unique skills that synergize relatively well. Good job on building a solid hero! My only problem is the 2nd skill as we have a bunch of war stomp based skills in DotA, but w/e it does do somethings differently.

[fremdlaender]

Thanks everone for their comments. ^^
I think, Pandas have to be funny, rolfling heroes, it fits them so much.

Originally Posted by JJE92

Here for you again:


-skill 1 is Imo a WOGM (WOW-OMFG-Great-Move) Skill. Simple for what it does, fun to use, creative and unique. One of the very few skills I gave full scores.
-skill 2 is average-good Imo. The only thing I really like is creating a crater ^^
-skill 3 is awesome, full points as well ^^ Imo perfectly balanced due to CD
-Ult side effect is rather bad and uncreative Imo. Forced synergy, I dislike it. Makes the Ult less off an initiating move as well. Slow isnt needed, you do this with skill 3 already and 50% slow + 30% slow is simply a lot.
-Earth Panda model used in dota already. Menhirs theme is cool, though.

Gonna add more probably ^^

First skill clearly was THE spell of this guy. From concept, over usage to the fun factor. Pretty much Elune's Arrow or Meat Hook like. ^^

The side effect of the ultimate was chosen, because I have thought about implementing shattering menhirs somehow.
At first, I wanted to make Paw Push a standalone skill, that is also able to push allies and enemies and the shatter the subskill, but I abaddoned that. ^^

Originally Posted by kings.empire

HRT!

Skill 1: Reminds me of one of the older CTH X contest skills where it creates an immobile unit that blocks a small area. However I like this one quite a bit more as Paw Push makes it quite a fun and unique spell. Too bad he can't paw push other units. :P

Skill 2: A war stomp like skill that creates a crater instead of slowing or stunning. Not sure how enemies lose armor by simply being in the crater...but whatevers I guess. xD

How about those who don't leave the crater in 2 seconds get sent back down in to the center? Can't run away from the mailman!

Skill 3: Lethal and deadly. No one is running away eh? Solid skill but if this hero was an actual DotA hero, insta ban hammer. xD

I would say huge slow, small duration, but that would be a little bit too reminiscent of Raijin's Overload so seems okay.

Ultimate: Mmm...a 50% slow too? Bit too much even if it is situational as no one is going to be able to flee from thing guy.

Overall: Pretty obvious how this is a CTH contest winner, unique skills that synergize relatively well. Good job on building a solid hero! My only problem is the 2nd skill as we have a bunch of war stomp based skills in DotA, but w/e it does do somethings differently.

Skill 1: As said above, I have thought about making Paw Push a stand-alone skill, that can push allies and enemies. But it wasn't what this hero should do mainly.

Skill 2: Terraforming Bash isn't really a War Stomp, it's more like Double Edge, but instead of damaging yourself you make a crater at the location of the targeted enemy.

Skill 3: Cooldown was made to balance the skill. ^^
I remember that one judge at the contest gave me rather bad scores, maybe he wasn't as conviced by this as I was.

Ultimate: This slow is in my opinion pretty situational, and enhances his initating. Of course he's able to slow very well, but an initiator without stuns should be able to do that.

[Fate Trap]

I knew u were going to win and i already said "Congratulations" in the CTH 8 main thread xD I really like this hero..

[xenia518]

i like the heroes......cool suggestions...
(:

[Captain Planet]

4,000th post...

HRT!

Stats: Seems like a fairly average stat gain, nothing out of the ordinary or unusual.

Skill 1: Very nice main skill. A very spammable mini-nuke in an AoE. Great for close encounters if you're quick with your hotkeys, especially if you can activate the subskill quickly, then you're really in business :d 260 damage and 2.1 second stun? Very nice ^_^ And all for just 115 mana...who could ask for more?

Skill 2: Oooh nice! Another AoE nuke. This looks like a very yummy damage dealing ability for sure. The minus armour is a nice bonus and with just a 20 second cooldown, this ability is gonna be a very frustrating spell, damaging and amplifying physical damage. Nice and effective. I like it

Skill 3: That's nasty. I mean, that's just NASTY. "YOU CAN'T RUN FROM ME!!!" A very good ability on a melee hero and this is a particularly good melee hero. The Panderan's answer to ES from what I've seen This passive is a great harassing aura as well if you are suicidal enough to max it early xD

Ultimate: ZOMG ANOTHER ROFLING PANDA!! This would create an epic dual between Obelix and Rajin for sure. I like the synergy between this and the first skill (even if a little forced it's still great ) I have little to say about this other than ZOMG ANOTHER ROFLING PANDA!!! XD Brilliant and fun.

Overall: Dare I say it you've created the DragonForce of DotA heroes: fast paced, action packed, fun, slightly repetitive but incredibly enjoyable. All of the things one could possibly ask for in a DotA hero. Congratulation on winning Complete the Hero 8! A thoroughly deserved victory and good luck in Complete the Hero 10

[Lycan]

Pun directed to entire country except a small village still opposing the conquerers is needed in his hero story imho but all in all looks pretty good.

[Cpt Bogdan]

nice idea

[King Murdoc]

U are one excellent hero maker all of ur suggestions rock.

[Captain Planet]

Originally Posted by Lycan

Pun directed to entire country except a small village still opposing the conquerers is needed in his hero story imho but all in all looks pretty good.

YES! That would be pro story telling ^_^

[Shadow Fury]

Originally Posted by The_Juggernaut

YES! That would be pro story telling ^_^

Obelix had once a peaceful live in his village in the Stontalon mountains as a menhir deliveryman until a Tauren druid arrived. The druid needed a rare herb to brew a magic potion that would allow a better connection to the earth spirits if you drink it. Obelix was very curious and wanted to see this potion but while trying to look into the cauldron he fell into it. When the druid noticed what happened to Obelix and saw that he gained the power to control the earth at his will, Obelix remained the last defender against the hordes of rampaging Scourge which were fast taking over the countryside. While the Druid remained to protect the village with his newfound potion from the surrounding troops of the legion, Obelix set forth to find and destroy the Frozen Throne to end the neverending threat to his village.

Fix'd?

[fremdlaender]

Thanks guys for all the posts. ^^

Originally Posted by The_Juggernaut

4,000th post...

HRT!

Stats: Seems like a fairly average stat gain, nothing out of the ordinary or unusual.

Skill 1: Very nice main skill. A very spammable mini-nuke in an AoE. Great for close encounters if you're quick with your hotkeys, especially if you can activate the subskill quickly, then you're really in business :d 260 damage and 2.1 second stun? Very nice ^_^ And all for just 115 mana...who could ask for more?

Skill 2: Oooh nice! Another AoE nuke. This looks like a very yummy damage dealing ability for sure. The minus armour is a nice bonus and with just a 20 second cooldown, this ability is gonna be a very frustrating spell, damaging and amplifying physical damage. Nice and effective. I like it

Skill 3: That's nasty. I mean, that's just NASTY. "YOU CAN'T RUN FROM ME!!!" A very good ability on a melee hero and this is a particularly good melee hero. The Panderan's answer to ES from what I've seen This passive is a great harassing aura as well if you are suicidal enough to max it early xD

Ultimate: ZOMG ANOTHER ROFLING PANDA!! This would create an epic dual between Obelix and Rajin for sure. I like the synergy between this and the first skill (even if a little forced it's still great ) I have little to say about this other than ZOMG ANOTHER ROFLING PANDA!!! XD Brilliant and fun.

Overall: Dare I say it you've created the DragonForce of DotA heroes: fast paced, action packed, fun, slightly repetitive but incredibly enjoyable. All of the things one could possibly ask for in a DotA hero. Congratulation on winning Complete the Hero 8! A thoroughly deserved victory and good luck in Complete the Hero 10

Thanks for the review and congrats to post 4k. :P
Well, about the third skill...
Obelix is, after all a spell spammer. I thought about giving him a passive ability like Earthshaker's, but that would have made those heroes too similar. ^^
Both are earth-themed, both are initiators, both are path blockers, both have fur... if both had a passive, that triggers on casting a spell, that would have been to much, that's how Cave In was created. ^^

Originally Posted by Lycan

Pun directed to entire country except a small village still opposing the conquerers is needed in his hero story imho but all in all looks pretty good.

I wanted to, but the CTH contest always set a word limit in the backgroundstories.
That's the part about CTH that is dislike the most, if I'm honest. Epic background stories need more words. ^^
I will change it soon to be more gaulish.

[JJE92]

Originally Posted by fremdlaender

I wanted to, but the CTH contest always set a word limit in the backgroundstories.
That's the part about CTH that is dislike the most, if I'm honest. Epic background stories need more words. ^^
I will change it soon to be more gaulish.

Its not CtH Contest, but WC3 engine ^^

[fremdlaender]

Originally Posted by JJE92

Its not CtH Contest, but WC3 engine ^^

I request a patch from Blizzard. NOW.

[Stampede]

We have: INT and STR pandas, dont you think that its time for a AGI panda ?

[King Murdoc]

Sorry off topic but so are u. Would you consider a panda an agile animal? I wouldnt.