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Old 07-17-2010, 02:50 AM   #41
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:50 PM   #42
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Alchemist is very good. He will get Radiance + Vanguard and you're gonna have trouble in your 28th minute.
Harbinger is underused but brilliant.
Ursa is such a gay fucking hero. If he gets his hands on vlads, bkb and blink, and aegis, he's guaranteed to fuck up your next team battle.

There you go OP
Alchemist has piss poor armor. Until he gets assault, he ain't a tank. Slardar can devastate him.

Slardar with blink, bkb, aegis, and a vanguard instead of vlads is more useful than Ursa IMO, and comes with in built carry potential.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:56 PM   #43
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With Basilius and Vanguard he's a tank. Case closed. He's way more popular than Slardar in the pro scene atm, getting banned and picked almost every game. Watch some ehome before you come here with raised eyebrows and misinformation to spread.

And if you had any idea of how the negative armor mechanicism operates, you would understand that slardar is superior at reducing medium armor heroes to 0, and not low armor heroes to below 0. If you would like me to explain this mathematically I will.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:26 AM   #44
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Sorry one other thing I forgot to add is how good Alchemist's ultimate is. As a steroid skill, is gives a 42% DPS increase (1.7/1.2 - 1) by cutting the base attack time. This pure attack speed increase is even better than a simple crit since it offers extra synergy with things like basher. To put this into perspective, Mortred's crit offers a 45% increase, and doesn't give crazy regeneration or movespeed increases. As an auxillary note, he can be in his ultimate at any appropriate time unlike say sven. The CD is 45 and the duration is 25.

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Old 07-25-2010, 05:29 PM   #45
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:37 AM   #46
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well, other carries like Terrorblade and clinkz than gains buff up aren't still being love by many...maybe sometimes but more over on said-ever since.. and still because of that i don't know why both of them are auto-banned.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:50 AM   #47
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it's funny how ppl forget sf is a hard carry. that just shows how ridiculous this hero is. his game potential is so good since early game he doesn't even need to turtle-farm like other carries, BUT still has the late game dmg potential as any other agi dpser. Not to mention he can farm his core 10-20 min faster than any of them. SF IS the best carry, so damn good you don't even have to play him like a carry.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:32 PM   #48
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:40 PM   #49
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Viper? Uh, he's an early carry at best. Gets overcarried easily by real carries as game progresses.

It's kind of funny how nobody mentions DK.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:49 PM   #50
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Tiny; soon he will be able to carry effing trees!

Awesome base + ulti damage and epic hero farm potential makes him a beast.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:51 PM   #51
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Depends,

if you're talking right click carry? void
if you're talking skilled carry? Invoker

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Old 07-27-2010, 12:57 PM   #52
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Best Carry like you may chose your items and who will carry best or best carry in a real DotA game with skilled enemies?

1st case probably Void,Mortred

2nd case Sf(semicarry) Dusa, Drow, Storm, Necrolyte and Morphling
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:34 PM   #53
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:00 AM   #54
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With Basilius and Vanguard he's a tank. Case closed. He's way more popular than Slardar in the pro scene atm, getting banned and picked almost every game. Watch some ehome before you come here with raised eyebrows and misinformation to spread.

And if you had any idea of how the negative armor mechanicism operates, you would understand that slardar is superior at reducing medium armor heroes to 0, and not low armor heroes to below 0. If you would like me to explain this mathematically I will.

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no ursa for alot of games. actually, almost no ursa at all.




on topic though... best carry?

regular chicken is a good carry early game, but its slow and walks. it gets the job done though, carrys your shit like a pro

flying courier is the best carry imo cuz it can bring all your items fast and its hard to kill + gives sight/steals runes etc aside from carrying your items

leavers/bear are very situational carrys, but they dont drop your items when killed so thats nice.



any1 see that LGD.sGty vs Nirvana.cn game 3(?) where drow freefarmed for like 3 days, while the dusa got completely outleveled and outfarmed until midgame? and dusa still comeback with like 2 rapiers late?

im ganna say dusa is a very strong carry that can farm if the team allows. can even gank pretty well. she does everything. even though those points dont really make her a better carry directly, i think it gives her alot of versatility to carry lategame even with bad starts by just doing other stuff than trying to farm like what other carrys do. i hope that made sense
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:00 AM   #56
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There is no best carry .
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:01 AM   #57
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Imho it's Void, PL, and Storm
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:29 AM   #58
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no ursa for alot of games. actually, almost no ursa at all.
Fail? I'm pretty sure he was talking about Alchemist... If not, then he failed
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:54 AM   #60
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there is no best carry, only the strongest hero with full item
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:23 AM   #61
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Viper..
Way to necro a topic with a completely useless post.
Dusa is the strongest carry hero in 6.67
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:35 AM   #62
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It totally depends. For Dusa to do her best, she needs to get heavy dps, or else she is easily ignored, and she won't have that before lvl 14/18 depending on the farm/ganks etc.
Drow is one hell of a dps'er, but kinda easy to take down. SF can really be a game changer with his pushing and game breaking bkb-dagger-ulti combo, and unlike Morph, SF doesnt need OMGWTFBBQ farm for a 100 years, Morphling needs to have 2x SF's farm to really do anything.
But in the current version, if we talk full items and shit, the "best" carry is Dusa.

But on the other hand, you can't really say that one hero is the best carry, because is depends so much on the situation.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:46 AM   #63
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The best carry is Syllabear because his bear can carry an extra 6 items. No joke.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:00 AM   #64
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Please, quickly, in like.. a paragraph, explain me sincerely WITH MEDUSA IS SUCH A GOOD HERO. Please; seriously. I can't get through her! :S It's not a complain or something xD i just.. fail to see her potencial.. Yes, you stack MP regen, and he's got perma-manashield, so she's kind of hard to kill.. Her ulti only stops people.. it doesn't really harm anyone.. Splitshot is great for farming and.. something else? And Snake is amazing early on.. but i feel it's kinda meh on lategame.. so, what am i failing to see..? please XD
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:59 PM   #65
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It is impossible to say who the best carry is in dota because there are such things as counters. Those underlined in the list below are the most popular ones at the moment.

Hard Carries:
  • Medusa
  • Morphling
  • Storm Spirit
  • Necrolyte
  • Drow Ranger
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Void
  • Bloodseeker
  • Clinkz
  • Broodmother
  • Terrorblade
  • Razor
  • Spectre
  • Destroyer

There are also those who have the potential of being a hard carry but aren't typically classified as one. However I will not list those.
Storm, Necro, Bloodseeker, Clinkz, broodmother, Razor aren't Hard Carrys.
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The current metagame is sucking drow's dick right now.

But if you're talking pubs, then SF is the way to go. SF is the only hero that can win a game by himself, against the 5 enemies on the other team and the 4 enemies on your team.
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Let's see.
Positves: Great Harasser, Great Ganker, Great Farmer
Negatives: Fragile, not a reliable escape mechanism

Fragile can be solved with sentry wards or a very common item for DROW, Lothars. I prefer Bfly Buriza.

Dro outfarms the entire field with damage and attack speed items like Lothars, Buriza, or Bfly, to the point that in a lot of istances he's making his 2nd super item... cough* Bfly. When your stuck on your 1st heart.

No one mentions Troll because he's just been nominated for biggest douche of the universe.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:57 PM   #68
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A carry is a hero that deals lots of damage in team battle he can eaily kill more than one hero single handed in late game if both teams are equally farmed now in this version smoke of deciet is used as new ganking item which benefit lots and quite cheap so the hero with good map control are the best so best carries in this versions are

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A carry is a hero that deals lots of damage in team battle he can eaily kill more than one hero single handed in late game if both teams are equally farmed now in this version smoke of deciet is used as new ganking item which benefit lots and quite cheap so the hero with good map control are the best so best carries in this versions are

Spectre
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Let's see.
Positves: Great Harasser, Great Ganker, Great Farmer
Negatives: Fragile, not a reliable escape mechanism

Fragile can be solved with sentry wards or a very common item for DROW, Lothars. I prefer Bfly Buriza.

Dro outfarms the entire field with damage and attack speed items like Lothars, Buriza, or Bfly, to the point that in a lot of istances he's making his 2nd super item... cough* Bfly. When your stuck on your 1st heart.

No one mentions Troll because he's just been nominated for biggest douche of the universe.
I highlighted all the fails in your post for you to revise
In what strange alternate dimension is drow a great farmer
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I highlighted all the fails in your post for you to revise
In what strange alternate dimension is drow a great farmer
That's a post from last year dough
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^except drow, even last year, wasn't a great farmer.
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there is no "best" carrier.
each one of them is for a different situation.

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Old 09-04-2011, 06:51 AM   #74
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Please, quickly, in like.. a paragraph, explain me sincerely WITH MEDUSA IS SUCH A GOOD HERO. Please; seriously. I can't get through her! :S It's not a complain or something xD i just.. fail to see her potencial.. Yes, you stack MP regen, and he's got perma-manashield, so she's kind of hard to kill.. Her ulti only stops people.. it doesn't really harm anyone.. Splitshot is great for farming and.. something else? And Snake is amazing early on.. but i feel it's kinda meh on lategame.. so, what am i failing to see..? please XD
Let us assume a situation where there are no creeps and no illusions (we go to creeps and illusions later.) u have 5vs5 u see dusa in the middle and all the other players alongside.they stun u stun they nuke u nuke etc at the end ur carry survives and so does 3 other teammates but low hp now dusa splitshots 70% damage assuming she has MkB Linken Butter and other dps ur 3 support heros die in few seconds they can escape her attack range fast enough now u r out of support u r only carry against carry if he is not AM guess who is standing last. Also if u give Aegis or Cheese to her well most ppl call it GG in pubs she does not shine much becuz not much team support.
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Please, quickly, in like.. a paragraph, explain me sincerely WITH MEDUSA IS SUCH A GOOD HERO. Please; seriously. I can't get through her! :S It's not a complain or something xD i just.. fail to see her potencial.. Yes, you stack MP regen, and he's got perma-manashield, so she's kind of hard to kill.. Her ulti only stops people.. it doesn't really harm anyone.. Splitshot is great for farming and.. something else? And Snake is amazing early on.. but i feel it's kinda meh on lategame.. so, what am i failing to see..? please XD
Yeah, doing dps
next time you pick dusa
1. turn splitshot on
2. press manta
3. right click
4. ???
5. profit
split shot isnt much of a farming skill until late in the game, but have you ever seen a fully farmed dusa against practically any other carry in the game? in a 5v5 fight she wont lose after 60 minute mark, ever lol
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25 minutes max vanguard radiance Spectre and you're set.
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split shot isnt much of a farming skill until late in the game,
Later in the game = min 15 or min 20 top?

Split shot is an impresive skill once you get yasha+Treads+wand+ultimate orb (or even before ultimate orb_)
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Later in the game = min 15 or min 20 top?

Split shot is an impresive skill once you get yasha+Treads+wand+ultimate orb (or even before ultimate orb_)
with that low damage and only 2 MAYBE 3 levels in splitshot its much more likely the creeps will get the lasthit

just attack creeps normally and use snake to flash farm
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