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Old 07-16-2010, 10:48 AM   #1
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i know this might be a stupid question but ..... how do we deny a hero???? i know how to deny creeps using the a button well how a bout the hero??
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:49 AM   #2
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use nightmare
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:56 AM   #3
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Bloodseeker's 1st skill does the work.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:00 AM   #4
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You can deny a hero when he is being doom or poison nova etc
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:01 AM   #5
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Default Re: how to deny a hero..

Under certain circumstanced (e.g. your teammate has the skill Doom on his hero) you can deny your teammates hero with normal a-clicking, just like with creeps.
There are more skills like that, all of them are dot-skills, damage over time.

Another chance to deny your teammate is with spells that deal damage to your mates and enemies likewise, e.g. Bloodseekers Bloodrage, Banes Nightmare or Tinys Toss
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:06 AM   #6
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i know this might be a stupid question but ..... how do we deny a hero???? i know how to deny creeps using the a button well how a bout the hero??
You can only deny a hero if he is under the effects of DoT(damage over time) spells like Doom, Veno's Venomous Gale, Warlock's Shadow word, to name a few.

To deny them, simply attack them. (press a click hero). They become attackable when under 25% hp i believe.
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: how to deny a hero..

If your allied has a negative buff or DoT skill on him like Venomous Gale, Shadow Word, Doom, Poison Sting then you can simply attack your ally when he's below a certain amount of HP (just attack him when you'll last hit it) or other ways to deny allies would be Bloodseeker's first skill, Toss (does damage to the tossed unit) or Nightmare.
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Old 07-16-2010, 05:25 PM   #8
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Can you deny your ally if under necro's 2nd skill <25% hp
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Old 07-16-2010, 05:45 PM   #9
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Can you deny your ally if under necro's 2nd skill <25% hp
I don't think so, because it is an aura, and i think it is negative degen, so doesn't cancel salve/clarity etc.

Ask in adv mechanics to be sure though.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:35 PM   #10
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Oh wow I had my post deleted by mods I guess. Ok I will shut up.
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:07 AM   #11
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You can deny a hero when they reach the lower end of their health points and are taking damage over time, i.e. Doom or almost any type of poison. To complete the action just command your hero to attack and last hit the remaining amount of life during the damage over time spell.
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:47 AM   #12
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Can you deny your ally if under necro's 2nd skill <25% hp
no you cant. only under effects like doom.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:55 AM   #13
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you can deny a hero if he is beeing doomed or poisoned..
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:55 AM   #14
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You can deny a hero when he is being doom or poison nova etc
Exactly
or be using Bloodseekers' Spells Or Nightmare. And if you're lucky you can deny with Tiny's toss.
Or if Warlock is using his Healing thing thing on the enemy. You can also deny thru that. Anything that he keeps loosing damage off. Except Meledict from witch doctor.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:59 AM   #15
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Can you deny your ally if under necro's 2nd skill <25% hp
Heartstopper Aura cannot kill, so you cannot deny a hero under its effect.

Off-topic: I remember the times when you turned to sheep when you attack an ally. Good times...sadly I was too young to play DotA back then.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:02 PM   #16
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Heartstopper Aura cannot kill, so you cannot deny a hero under its effect.

Off-topic: I remember the times when you turned to sheep when you attack an ally. Good times...sadly I was too young to play DotA back then.
Really? Wow i didn't know that. I'd do that in pubs just for the lulz. Which version was this?
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:56 PM   #17
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5.84c. It was casted by a dummy unit. The funny thing is that if u manage to get bkb u could attack ur allies freely within the bkbed period.
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Old 07-17-2010, 03:13 PM   #18
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5.84c. It was casted by a dummy unit. The funny thing is that if u manage to get bkb u could attack ur allies freely within the bkbed period.
This is awesome. I would like this to be implemented in fun mode.
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Old 07-17-2010, 03:45 PM   #19
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Heartstopper Aura cannot kill, so you cannot deny a hero under its effect.

Off-topic: I remember the times when you turned to sheep when you attack an ally. Good times...sadly I was too young to play DotA back then.
It can kill. Most of the damage is HP-removal, final damage tick isn't. But you indeed can't deny an ally if he's just under effect of this aura.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:22 PM   #20
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Default Re: how to deny a hero..

... Man, read a guide or learn the game..

There is nothing of "game strategy" on this..

I would like to now which spells/buff/debuff are purgable, but I won't post it here.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:01 PM   #21
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I saw a replay where a PL tried to deny himself with an image after being doomed.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:35 PM   #22
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I saw a replay where a PL tried to deny himself with an image after being doomed.
Wonderful, anymore random things that any decent player knows and no one cares about you nede to tell us?
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:56 PM   #23
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Units afflicted by Viper Strike can be denied by their allies when their HP drops below 25% of their maximum health. (as of v6.71)
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:54 PM   #24
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You attack the hero.
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:31 PM   #25
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Actually, there is this DotA video of a guy playing Lycan, he got Doomed or Poisoned and stunned by some hero, it was a sure death, but he used his own Wolves to deny himself.
He then proceed to use those Wolves to chase and kill a support hero.

Was wondering if anyone has the link. Its quite a popular video.
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:21 PM   #26
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wasn't that in a wodota top 10 weekly?
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:44 PM   #27
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^It was, but i don`t remember in which one.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:34 AM   #28
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in wodota 81 traxex deny her by dominate a creep an kill herself, it means we can deny ourselves by using a creep dominated by us ????????????
PS: traxex didn't get any skill like nightmate, .....
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:36 AM   #29
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in wodota 81 traxex deny her by dominate a creep an kill herself, it means we can deny ourselves by using a creep dominated by us ????????????
PS: traxex didn't get any skill like nightmate, .....
If you're talking about the Trax that commited Suicide its because the unit that sent the attack (which killed her) could not be found (because it was dominated by Trax) so it counts as a Suicide.

If you're talking about something else, yeah, you can deny yourself with units you control.. Lycans can deny theselves.. etc.
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