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Old 07-18-2010, 03:18 AM   #1
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Default Stoic Thunderwrath the Grappler


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Grappler
Stoic Thunderwrath

Background Story:
Though born the heir of the noble family of Thunderwrath, Stoic refuses to believe in God. And yet had his lover Krobelus not been lynched for being a Death Sayer, he wouldn't have decided to seek complete freedom. And for that he needs strength. Maximizing the potential of that little of human, Stoic can damage his opponents by using their own power. Swift like a wind, his movement are feared by even the fastest fighters, his punches hit them even before they realize. When situation calls, he can focus all his power into his fingertip letting it penetrate even the strongest armors.

Strength - 20 + [2.85]
Agility - 14 + [2]
Intelligence - 15 + [1.5]




Affiliation:Neutral
Damage:50-50
Armor:2
Movespeed:310
Starting HP/MP:530/195
Attack Range:100 (melee)

Moonwalk - (Passive)
____________________Possessing inhuman speed, Stoic can move from one spot to another in a blink. An opponent struck this way will be astonished and grappled by Stoic, which allows him to bring that opponent to where he goes.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1N/A0.5 per consecutive use320N/A1.25Allows Stoic to blink and grapple opponent
2N/A0.45 per consecutive use380N/A1.5Allows Stoic to blink and grapple opponent
3N/A0.4 per consecutive use440N/A1.75Allows Stoic to blink and grapple opponent
4N/A0.35 per consecutive use500N/A2Allows Stoic to blink and grapple opponent

Notes:
  • Once learned, instead of walking Stoic will blink when you order him to move/attack
  • He will first walk until the ordered spot is within range and then blink
  • While grappling an opponent, the range is halved
  • Stoic can't walk normally while grappling, otherwise the opponent will be released
  • Cooldown:
    Number of consecutive useCooldown at level 1
    10.5
    21
    31.5
    42
    And so on
  • If Stoic don't blink in a duration equal to the cooldown after it finishes, the cooldown will be set to the previous value
Eye and Tooth - (Passive)
____________________Being a master at close combat, Stoic can easily use his opponents' power to damage them. The further they are from him, the less he can make use of this technique.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1N/AN/AN/AN/AN/ADeals bonus 55% of opponent's base damage, 2% less for each 10 range unit between Stoic and that opponent
2N/AN/AN/AN/AN/ADeals bonus 70% of opponent's base damage, 2% less for each 10 range unit between Stoic and that opponent
3N/AN/AN/AN/AN/ADeals bonus 85% of opponent's base damage, 2% less for each 10 range unit between Stoic and that opponent
4N/AN/AN/AN/AN/ADeals bonus 100% of opponent's base damage, 2% less for each 10 range unit between Stoic and that opponent

Notes:
  • Damage type: physical
Gone with the Wind - (Passive)
____________________By concentrating, Stoic's punches can generate winds which hit just as hard. Moreover, he can sometimes make the released wind blow back dragging his opponents on its way.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1N/AN/AN/AN/A0.35Attack range +50, 25% chance to drag
2N/AN/AN/AN/A0.4Attack range +100, 25% chance to drag
3N/AN/AN/AN/A0.45Attack range +150, 25% chance to drag
4N/AN/AN/AN/A0.5Attack range +200, 25% chance to drag

Notes:
  • Foes hit always get dragged until the distance between them and where Stoic started dragging them is 100
  • Duration of dragging changes with each level
Spirit Gun - (Passive)
____________________By focusing all his mind and power into a fingertip, Stoic can ensure that his next hit will cause calamity. With it, he can penetrate even the strongest armors.


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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1100N/AN/AN/A5-1337 armor
2120N/AN/AN/A6-1337 armor
3140N/AN/AN/A7-1337 armor

Notes:
  • In order to use this skill, you must order Stoic to stop for 1 second before attacking
  • Affects enemies with magic immunity
  • The effect of this skill is Orb Effect and Buff Placer
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:26 AM   #2
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All Passive? :3
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:36 AM   #3
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is that possible to have all passive skills in DotA?
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:44 AM   #4
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new skill ideas but you can guarantee every noob would play this hero because all his skills are passive.
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:13 AM   #5
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I like the armor thing. 1337 woot!

And uhh.. All Passive? O.O Wow. Noobs will surely love this.
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:17 PM   #6
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Just for people who don't know, Eye and Tooth stands for "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth", and Spirit Gun is from Yu Yu Hakusho
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:40 PM   #7
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Default Re: Stoic Thunderwrath the Grappler

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All Passive? :3
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is that possible to have all passive skills in DotA?
Prejudice is bad for your health.

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new skill ideas but you can guarantee every noob would play this hero because all his skills are passive.
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And uhh.. All Passive? O.O Wow. Noobs will surely love this.
No, they will suck using this hero.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:31 AM   #8
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Default Re: Stoic Thunderwrath the Grappler

since Prejudice is bad for my health, so i'm gonna comments on this hero.

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1st skill: i love the CD thingy..well it is good to avoid this skill being abused. So this skill would allow Stoic standing nearby his opponents...in order to make others skill become effective....

2nd skill: so this skill would make Stoic deal massive damage when he is very close to his opponents? Make this in percentage, with Basher, he can become legendary hero easily.

3rd skill: very nice skill, very well synergize with his 1st and 2nd skill.

ultimate: why must 1337? anyway very nice skill to be combo with others of his skill. Hahahaha
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why must 1337?
To penetrate through Omniknight's ultimate skill.

And thank you.
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #10
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Default Re: Stoic Thunderwrath the Grappler

Max is -20 armor anyway with a reduction of -71%.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:13 PM   #11
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Default Re: Stoic Thunderwrath the Grappler

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Max is -20 armor anyway with a reduction of -71%.

It's mean to bypass any form of armor bonuses.

This is, contrary to common belief, not necessarily an all passive hero. (I really think you should clarify this. It took me a moment to understand why...)

Although all his skills themselves are passive in the sense of not being an active click and use, all his actions effect the activation, or lack thereof, of his skills. Stopping for a moment will trigger the spirit gun mana+1337 armor reduction. Movement will trigger moonwalk, but it can go on cooldown for when you really need it. I'd say he has 2 passives and 2 pseudo-actives.

I really like the hero tho...

skill 1 Everyone loves the blink movement ^^ IDK if you were active on DA or not but a really popular ultimate suggestion was very similar to this skill (active, duration, lower cooldown that doesn't increase per blink) not sure if it's balanced, but I still love the concept.

Skill 2 This is really good. (Although due to the limitations, I'd make it on whole damage.) My only qualm with this skill is that a 500+ range hero will take no damage for attacking Stoic.

Skill 3 First, make the drag based on location when drag occurs. Otherwise, you can just moonwalk pass towers and these people will be dragged with him. Yeah batrider is redundant now Otherwise, really like this skill.

Skill 4 For a moment, I was wondering if it was imba but I'd say it's quite good. It'll deal a lot of damage, and kinda makes Amplify damage shirk in comparison, but it doesn't give vision, and has shitty range (100-300) so maybe it'll work out. I like the synergy with moonwalk.

overall Well synergizing, a new system of pseudoactives, and very very fun to play. I definitely like the hero.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:26 PM   #12
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Skill 1 is...you grappling peoples every time? That will be annoying.

All the skills execpt ultimate don't need mana, i don't agree, dealing damage and all the effect without any cost. T-Down...
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:33 PM   #13
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All passive... that's not hard to make them active...

And I'm totally agree with Nizaris.

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Old 07-19-2010, 04:42 PM   #14
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Well, since this is a misconcepted response IMO

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Skill 1 is...you grappling peoples every time? That will be annoying.

All the skills execpt ultimate don't need mana, i don't agree, dealing damage and all the effect without any cost. T-Down...
Skill 1 is you blink instead of walking with a stacking cooldown per movement order/movement distance.

None of his skills do damage. And they're pseudo-active. Besides, an all passive hero wouldn't kill dota. Stop the misconceptions and the presumptions and actually look at the hero.

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All passive... that's not hard to make them active...

And I'm totally agree with Nizaris.

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If someone were to make a test map of this and you were to actually play it, you probably would screw up pretty badly. this isn't an easy hero to play. There's lots of activity you have to do to not screw him up. The skills may be passive but using him sure as hell isn't.

Skill1 seems anti creep block btw.
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even Mortred and other blink heroes like Magina need mana to blink...this hero get for free and not only that, he grapple means disable his opponent for free...i don't agree, T-Down
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even Mortred and other blink heroes like Magina need mana to blink...this hero get for free and not only that, he grapple means disable his opponent for free...i don't agree, T-Down
That's not skill 1. Sure, he gets a bash OMG who ever heard of that? BTW he has no damage skills remember that.

Now you're just nitpicking numbers, not concept for 1. Second, this hero gets free blink sure, but it gets a cooldown and a much lower range. This cooldown just keeps going up, up, up, up, up, up...
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It's free...not fair....nothing for freeeee.......
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It's free...not fair....nothing for freeeee.......
It's fair... It can add a manacost, look at CONCEPTS
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1337?
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T-up
Its nice idea, if you could have a full active skills on a hero, why not full pasive? (BTW you got ulti as active...
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