[Agi-Sent]Emiya, Counter Guardian

[kings.empire]

Tolerate the varied colors of the icons plox.

Critiques, replies, and flames are welcomed!

As for Kansho and Bakuya, originally the idea was to have those two as one skill and not seperately, however I'm not sure if it's codable to have two different kind of effects since one projectile is based on units per distance and the other one is timed.

Thoughts about that is also welcomed.

Changelog:

Ver 1.0: Hero first created
Ver 1.01: Lowered stun of Bakuya to 0.75 seconds at all leves and changed Overedge to Imbued Blades

• Hero Introduction
• Attributes
• Skills
• Synergy

• Hero Model
• Introduction
• Background Story
  

Counter Guardian Emiya

Emiya is a hero who heavily relies on his own mobility and his allies support in order to kill the opposing force. With two moving based skills, Emiya is capable of singling out enemy units and isolate said unit so Emiya's allies are able to kill it with easy. Lack of heavy disables is his down point as the strongest stun he holds is one that only lasts 1.5 seconds and hard to hit. Unlimited Bladeworks although a medicore ultimate alone really compliments the rest of Emiya's skillsets allowing him to alter the battlefield for a brief moment to create absolute chaos.

A Pandarean Swordsman who made a contract with the World Tree. In exchange for granting him great powers, he will in return serve the World Tree as a Guardian to protect the world from any opposing threat that wants to crush it. Using his honed sword skills and amplified powers, Emiya now fights in the eternal battle against the undead horror with his two blades.

• Statistics
• Advanced Statistics
  

Strength Agility Intelligence 16 + 1.75 22 + 2.5 15 + 2.05

Starting HP/MP: 454/195 Base Stats: 53 Stats Gain: 6.3 Primary Role: Initiator

Affiliation:	Sentinel		Attack Animation:	0.6 / 0.5
Damage:	45-51		Casting Animation:	0.7 / 0.5
Armor:	3		Base Attack Time:	1.7
Movespeed:	295		Missile Speed:	Instant
Attack Range:	140		Sight Range:	1800 / 800

• Kansho and Bakuya
• Cyclone Whirl
• Imbued Blades
• Unlimited Bladeworks
  

• Kansho and Bakuya
• Kansho
• Bakuya
  

Type: Active Targeting: Point Hotkey: K

Emiya throws Kansho which carries the first unit it hits and throws Byakuya in an arc-like fashion which upon impact stuns those around it

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	-	-	-	-	-	Grants skills Kansho and Byakuya.
2	-	-	-	-	-	Grants skills Kansho and Byakuya.
3	-	-	-	-	-	Grants skills Kansho and Byakuya.
4	-	-	-	-	-	Grants skills Kansho and Byakuya.

• When leveling the skill, Kansho will appear when opening the skills Icon and upon learning, Byakuya will appear

Type: Active Targeting: Point Hotkey: K

Emiya throws Kansho straight ahead carrying the first unit struck to the target destination

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	80	20 seconds	1000	125	-	First unit it strikes will be carried away to the target point and dealt 100 damage.
2	70	15 seconds	1000	125	-	First unit it strikes will be carried away to the target point and dealt 100 damage.
3	60	10 seconds	1000	125	-	First unit it strikes will be carried away to the target point and dealt 100 damage.
4	50	5 seconds	1000	125	-	First unit it strikes will be carried away to the target point and dealt 100 damage.

• Damage type: Magic
• Kansho travels at 700 units per second
• Kansho skill is in the 1st skill slot

Type: Active Targeting: Area Hotkey: Y

Emiya throws Byakuya overhead at the target destination. Upon impact units struck will be stunned.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	80	20 seconds	1000	175	-	Thrown overhead dealing 100 damage and stunning all units in the AoE 0.75 seconds.
2	70	15 seconds	1000	175	-	Thrown overhead dealing 100 damage and stunning all units in the AoE 0.75 seconds.
3	60	10 seconds	1000	175	-	Thrown overhead dealing 100 damage and stunning all units in the AoE 0.75 seconds.
4	50	5 seconds	1000	175	-	Thrown overhead dealing 100 damage and stunning all units in the AoE 0.75 seconds.

• Damage type: Magic
• Byakuya takes 1.5 seconds to reach the destination.
• Byakuya skill is in the skill slot above the 2nd slot

Type: Active Targeting: Instant Hotkey: L

Emiya crosses his arms and unleashes his stored up energy flinging enemies away from him.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	150	10 seconds	-	500	-	Pushes all units in the AoE until they are 500 units away from Emiya. Deals 25% of the distance traveled in damage
2	150	10 seconds	-	500	-	Pushes all units in the AoE until they are 500 units away from Emiya. Deals 50% of the distance traveled in damage
3	150	10 seconds	-	500	-	Pushes all units in the AoE until they are 500 units away from Emiya. Deals 75% of the distance traveled in damage
4	150	10 seconds	-	500	-	Pushes all units in the AoE until they are 500 units away from Emiya. Deals 100% of the distance traveled in damage

• If an enemy units is 200 units away from Emiya when he uses this skill at level 4, that unit will be pushed back until they are 500 units away from him meaning that unit will be pushed back 300 units and dealt 300 damage.
• If the unit is 400 units away, unit is pushed back 100 units and dealt 100 damage due to distance traveled (at level 4, at level 1 it would deal 25 damage).
• Has a 1 second casting time before it activates.

Type: Passive Targeting: None Hotkey: M

Emiya empowers his blade and with each strike disrupts the mana flow of the target. If the target moves a certain distance, the disruption becomes so great that it implodes, burning away the energy of the affected unit.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	-	-	-	-	3 seconds	Each strike amplifies the damage dealt on the target by 2%. If the unit travels 700 units, they will be burned 50 mana.
2	-	-	-	-	3 seconds	Each strike amplifies the damage dealt on the target by 3%. If the unit travels 700 units, they will be burned 75 mana.
3	-	-	-	-	3 seconds	Each strike amplifies the damage dealt on the target by 4%. If the unit travels 700 units, they will be burned 100 mana.
4	-	-	-	-	3 seconds	Each strike amplifies the damage dealt on the target by 5%. If the unit travels 700 units, they will be burned 125 mana.

• Upon moving 700 distance, the magic resistance of the target returns to normal
• Max cap of 40% amplified damage

• Unlimited Bladeworks
• Rain of Blades
  

*Credits go to sndwch and Axidos for the concept of this Ultimate

Type: Active Targeting: Instant Hotkey: U

Emiya creates a graveyard of blades around him. Each blade Emiya pulls out increases his damage and explodes upon contact with the enemy.

	Mana	Cooldown	C.Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	150	120 seconds	-	600/*175	4 seconds	Emiya is capable of blinking at any spot in the area by right-clicking. If he pulls out a sword, it will give him 40 bonus damage and upon contact with the enemy deals an additional 50 damage and 0.3 second mini-stun. Stacks up to two blades at one time
2	175	90 seconds	-	600/*175	5 seconds	Emiya is capable of blinking at any spot in the area by right-clicking. If he pulls out a sword, it will give him 50 bonus damage and upon contact with the enemy deals an additional 60 damage and 0.3 second mini-stun. Stacks up to two blades at one time
3	200	60 seconds	-	600/*175	6 seconds	Emiya is capable of blinking at any spot in the area by right-clicking. If he pulls out a sword, it will give him 60 bonus damage and upon contact with the enemy deals an additional 70 damage and 0.3 second mini-stun. Stacks up to two blades at one time

• Every click that moves the hero will automatically blink Emiya to that destination
• *# in AoE represents the additional damage and mini-stun that units will be hit.
• Does not trap units inside.
• Mini-stuns do not stack however the damage does stack
• Aghanim's: Blades that are picked up will not disappear, meaning if Emiya picks up one blade, he'd actually have the buff of two blades.

Type: Active Targeting: AoE Hotkey: I

Launches the remaining blades from the ground at the targetted area. Doing so will immediately end the spell as there will be no blades remaining. Channeling

	Mana	Cooldown	C.Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	100	-	1200	225	-	Deals 40*(# of blades) damage in the area.
2	125	-	1200	225	-	Deals 50*(# of blades) damage in the area.
3	150	-	1200	225	-	Deals 60*(# of blades) damage in the area.

• Damage type: Magical
• 1.5 second channeling time.
• Can only be used within Unlimited Bladeworks.
• With the Aghanim's upgrade, Emiya is able to deal out the full output of this skill.
• Ends Unlimited Bladeworks upon using it

• Skill Synergy
• Item Synergy
• Hero Synergy
  

Throw Kansho then throw Byakuya at the same target location or vice versa. Hopefully Kansho hits though.



Very tricky to pull off as it requires player to determine how far is 500 units in order to throw Byakuya with instant follow up of Cyclone Whirl. Just pray they're dumb enough to stay around.



Cyclone Whirl the opponent then Kansho them to further push them away.



With the ability to gain increased damage and blink across the field, how could this not synergize?



Easily enables Emiya to pull off a Cyclone Whirl and by sending the enemy around in the area, Emiya might be able to pull up another sword to strike down his enemies.



Keep that bastard inside the area!



If Emiya can make full use of the 6 seconds, the battle should be his!

Item Synergy


Most ideal item to start off with as it gives needed AS and HP.



Though risky, the fact that it can phase through units, give higher MS, and give some nice damage is pretty decent.



A very useful item to have as it replenishes both his low hp and mana.



Yeah so he can blink with Ultimate, however what will he do in the 54 seconds of down time? Can also be used to initiate with Cyclone Whirl or even Unlimited Bladeworks.



Increases AS, damage, silence, and mana regen. What's not to like about this item?



For lulz as it would give him three pushing based skills, or hey maybe to even initiate with if Blink dagger is unobtainable.



Gives you the ability to get close to the enemy as possible and deal so heavy damage with Cyclone Whirl.



Obviously a must-have as it improves the Ultimate quite vastly.

Say goodbye to that HP/Mana of yours!

• Kansho and Bakuya
• Cyclone Whirl
• Imbued Blades
• Unlimited Bladeworks

Icon of Kansho will be showing, however once learning this skill, Byakuya will show up above the 2nd skill icon

Ever played/watched those KH 2: FM videos of Sora facing Roxas? Same concept when Roxas uses his opening move, in fact here's a youtube video of it:

Here's a link since [youtube] bar thing isn't working for me atm

In fact, during that one second casting time he'll be spinning like Storm Spirit and then upon landing the skill occurs. Must continue the bond of rofling.

Since damage is amplified, that means both magic and physical damage deals (alot) more damage than usual however once the target has moved 700 units, the amplified damage ends immediately however can be built again if striking the target again.

What the skill will look like, credits go to sndwch for the photo. Since Emiya can blink anywhere within this area, to grab the sword he just goes up to it or touches it. Upon grabbing it, sword will disappear.

• Kansho and Bakuya
• Cyclone Whirl
• Imbued Blades
• Unlimited Bladeworks

A very powerful early game if executed right as leveling this one skill gives two which grant an output of 200 damage at level 1. Scaling it however could be a poor/great move since the damage doesn't increase however cooldown and manacost decreases.

To deal the max damage of 500, he'd have to be literally phased or something. With a casting time of 1 second, opponents have time to move away from him therefore he'd require a stun however pushing enemy units away isn't exactly the greatest thing to do either...

A very powerful passive as it's like Chen's Penetinence except it needs quite a bit of hits to build it up.

A potentially powerful Ultimate that really requires for his foes to stay inside. Yes it gives him the ability to blink anywhere making traveling easy, however since it doesn't ensnarge, enemy units can easily escape. However equipped with him are Kansho and Cyclone Whirl which pushes enemies away and Byakuya and the mini-stun when grabing a sword can stun for a short period of time thus making enemies filled with despair. Landing these skills are a different story though.

[doomed2die]

Fate/stay night! Pssh, he needs a bow xP

Anyway...

Skill 1: The first 1, I like it. A lot of movement, great for initiating or making a fight 5v4 for just a bit.... Deals good damage but I wonder if the distance might be a bit much (I gank from behind push you all the way to tower, throw byakuya). For byakuya, a stun every 5 seconds for 1.5 seconds? That's a lot, even without much damage. Either make it an annoying ministun (.8 seconds or something) or nerf the cd :/

Skill 2: Alright, i like it. Maximum damage: 500, seems like a lot but will never happen. The problem with this skill is that it seems to have a bit of counter synergy with kansho. (Throw em away, and then use a skill that does more if you're closer??)

Skill 3: Too too basic and has like no synergy with the rest of his skills I demand a remake >:O Maybe focus on the anime/manga's "refining" aspect. Or replicating weaponry or something. Just not more crits please. I was liking this suggestion till I saw the crit

Skill 4: Okay, this is where it all comes together! I see a lot of synergy (blink hit, push, blink hit, whirl, stun, hit, push, blade rain...) but again, it does so little with skill 3. Very little synergy... Great skill, synergizes 2 countersynergizing skills xD and makes it work together.

Overall: Remake skill 3 (please) and it really works together. I like the aghanim's idea, I like the skills, and I really like the movement/distance type hero. I see synergy between ult/3 but the problem is it just doesn't tie in as well as the other 3 do. The numbers seem fine except the cd on your stuns, so yeah, I like it

[kings.empire]

Originally Posted by doomed2die

Fate/stay night! Pssh, he needs a bow xP

Anyway...

Skill 1: The first 1, I like it. A lot of movement, great for initiating or making a fight 5v4 for just a bit.... Deals good damage but I wonder if the distance might be a bit much (I gank from behind push you all the way to tower, throw byakuya). For byakuya, a stun every 5 seconds for 1.5 seconds? That's a lot, even without much damage. Either make it an annoying ministun (.8 seconds or something) or nerf the cd :/

Well realize it does take 1.5 seconds to land and the fact people see it coming (when compared to Torrent where no one knows where it'll pop up) combined with a very small AoE and it should be hard to strike people, but then again you do bring up a good point of it being a bit too long for such a short cd (with a very low mana cost as well). Nerfed it and made it a solid 0.75 seconds at all levels.

Skill 2: Alright, i like it. Maximum damage: 500, seems like a lot but will never happen. The problem with this skill is that it seems to have a bit of counter synergy with kansho. (Throw em away, and then use a skill that does more if you're closer??)

Actually its more like use Cyclone Whirl and then throw Kansho to where ever the target has flung away to increase the distance traveled and maybe even throw a Byakuya in there.

Throwing Kansho then using Cyclone Whirl...yeah it clashes in synergy but not the other way around!

Skill 3: Too too basic and has like no synergy with the rest of his skills I demand a remake >:O Maybe focus on the anime/manga's "refining" aspect. Or replicating weaponry or something. Just not more crits please. I was liking this suggestion till I saw the crit

Agree'd. Couldn't really come up with anything else that would stay related to Archer, but alas seems like I'm going to have to walk off the path again...(Cyclone Whirl was inspired by Roxas).

Skill 4: Okay, this is where it all comes together! I see a lot of synergy (blink hit, push, blink hit, whirl, stun, hit, push, blade rain...) but again, it does so little with skill 3. Very little synergy... Great skill, synergizes 2 countersynergizing skills xD and makes it work together.

Give huge credit to sndwch and Axidos. Without their suggestions in the Ability Forums, this hero idea would have never been made.

Overall: Remake skill 3 (please) and it really works together. I like the aghanim's idea, I like the skills, and I really like the movement/distance type hero. I see synergy between ult/3 but the problem is it just doesn't tie in as well as the other 3 do. The numbers seem fine except the cd on your stuns, so yeah, I like it

Thanks for the review! Hope you like the changes I made!

[doomed2die]

I like the changes you've made and it really balances out. GJ I like the suggestion now.

[kings.empire]

Originally Posted by doomed2die

I like the changes you've made and it really balances out. GJ I like the suggestion now.

Yeah well, now that Shadow Demon has a skill that amplify damage, the new reworked Overedge looks unoriginal.

Bah, oh well.

[manafusion]

i tot it was reinforcement? that WAS shirou's ability that he uses in the beginning of the vn and anime. overedge seems kind of... non-emiya style. and at that, since he IS the counter guardian, he's missing his projection, caladbolg II, hrunting (from fate/hollow ataraxia), and Rho Aias (though MOST of them, including kansho and bakuya is under projection skill)

[kings.empire]

Originally Posted by manafusion

i tot it was reinforcement? that WAS shirou's ability that he uses in the beginning of the vn and anime. overedge seems kind of... non-emiya style. and at that, since he IS the counter guardian, he's missing his projection, caladbolg II, hrunting (from fate/hollow ataraxia), and Rho Aias (though MOST of them, including kansho and bakuya is under projection skill)

Oh jeez, that would be too complicated! Remember he's using the Fire Panda model so archery based techniques wouldn't make much sense to an average DotA player.

However for Projection idea, it was initially he'd trace the base damage of an opposing hero's base damage like 90% of it (since he can't make the real thing) and that bonus damage would last like 5 seconds (since it goes against the laws of the world). Then he gets a sub-skill where he can empower the projected weapon by doubling it on the next attack and when the strike falls, deals AoE damage and explodes.

The thing is though, his Ultimate already carries that trait so I wasn't sure how to fit it in. Not only that, but projection + unlimited bladeworks = hell of a lot of damage.

Well, I'll think about tweaking it as long as it makes it more interesting and yeah, overedge needs a replacement. :S


Thanks for the reply!

[doomed2die]

You renamed Cyclone Whirl to Imbued blades and didn't rename Overedge

[kings.empire]

Originally Posted by doomed2die

You renamed Cyclone Whirl to Imbued blades and didn't rename Overedge

Wow I feel dumb, thanks for the notice!

BTW thoughts on my idea in post 7?

[manafusion]

ok... since you want to talk abt it. UBW actually is projection mass-released. so, basically, it causes prevention of creating any weapons from projection as it is already force activated in the field of UBW.

also, Rho Aias is an active ability that causes damage reduction from ranged attacks (include spells) so it must be there as emiya is given Rho Aias as he became a counter-guardian.

finally, Reinforcement causes projected weapon to be Broken Phantasm, which breaks upon usage. meaning that the bonus from Projection is lost upon striking an enemy with Reinforcement skill buffing the weapon (note abt archer's weapon loss in berserker fight for both anime and vn) also to note, Caladbolg II is actually Reinforced Caladbolg which was the reason of the blast that occured when he fired that weapon. Finally, Kansho and Bakuya has its own special combo skill called Crane Wing Three Ream (from typemoon.wikia.com) and Overedge is actually a by-product of reinforcement on the weapon during final strike.

[kings.empire]

Originally Posted by manafusion

ok... since you want to talk abt it. UBW actually is projection mass-released. so, basically, it causes prevention of creating any weapons from projection as it is already force activated in the field of UBW.

Yeah, I had an idea of whatever he projected to be in UBW so the damage when he picks up a sword would have a number between 40-60. However is it codable to make it based on the base damage of an opponent's? Pretty doubtful about this as if it could, it would could be a nuisance to code as it would always be changing.

Hmm...how about being able to "copy," an enemy hero's passive if they have any? It IS their weapon technically and would make a nice bonus.

also, Rho Aias is an active ability that causes damage reduction from ranged attacks (include spells) so it must be there as emiya is given Rho Aias as he became a counter-guardian.

Don't really want to use this as in-game all it would be is a massive damage reducer or some kind of spellblock/evasion kind of skill and we already have quite a bunch of those (Refraction, Blur, Drunken Brawler, Back Track, Aphotic Shield, Bristleback).

finally, Reinforcement causes projected weapon to be Broken Phantasm, which breaks upon usage. meaning that the bonus from Projection is lost upon striking an enemy with Reinforcement skill buffing the weapon (note abt archer's weapon loss in berserker fight for both anime and vn) also to note, Caladbolg II is actually Reinforced Caladbolg which was the reason of the blast that occured when he fired that weapon. Finally, Kansho and Bakuya has its own special combo skill called Crane Wing Three Ream (from typemoon.wikia.com) and Overedge is actually a by-product of reinforcement on the weapon during final strike.

Yeah, original Overedge was to do a critical on the fourth strike because for this hero, were assuming he will be using Kansho and Byakuya, but I guess I could come up with something better based on it.

Anything dealing with firing projectiles I want to say away from though, it'd just be weird for a dual sword wielding panda to fire out an arrow really because not everyone read FSN (well I didn't either, but I did watch the anime and read the wkia atleast).

Hmm...quite a bit of ideas. Thanks for your input.

[manafusion]

Originally Posted by kings.empire

Don't really want to use this as in-game all it would be is a massive damage reducer or some kind of spellblock/evasion kind of skill and we already have quite a bunch of those (Refraction, Blur, Drunken Brawler, Back Track, Aphotic Shield, Bristleback).

this is not quite your regular so-called passive. Rho Aias would be an active that negates 7 ranged attacks/skills from damaging you (exclude aoe skills... or make it such that it would be negated but destroys the shield completely or make it a damage calculator to check if either 7 hits or 700 ranged damage is dealt like how Gae Bolg's true usage (The Spear of Striking Death Flight) did) with a duration and a 30s cooldown (to be fair) as well as mana cost to be considerably high (but usable for one or two times in early game eating all mana up).

this is my opinion on Rho Aias... due to the fact that we dont have much anti-spell abilities other than silence and skills that imbue part-silence.

[JJE92]

Holy Shitballz. That ultimate is even more awesome than the original ability suggestion by Axidos. Gotta add this to my collection of unique concepts somehow.

Pretty cool movement heavy skill you have there, would be really fun to play this champion.

If I have the time, I'll do an in-depth review later on ^^

[E02K]

We said no more heroes for tmap , u dont need to necro...

[brengxex]

i like the original concept (especially for the skills). T-Up from me. But, is it okay to have those hotkeys far from your left hand? (which is usually located near a and s for attacking and stopping command, except for those who have warkeys and such)