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Old 07-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #1
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Hiho everyone

Have a question: Wich item would you buy for Thrall?

Iīm going to buy these items:
Null Talisman, Bracer, Arcane Boots, Dagger, Force Staff, Bloodstone OR Linkenīs Sphere and Daggon OR Orchid Malevolence.
What you think?

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Old 07-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #2
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euls is freaking great on him
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:19 PM   #3
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I use Soul Ring -> Boots -> Dagon 2 -> BoT -> Hex -> Situational stuff

Seems to work well for me.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:21 PM   #4
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he has decent int and low mana cost on spells. An Urn early on should be enough for him to spam spells/gank. Maybe add a bottle.

I would not go for either SR nor AB.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:23 PM   #5
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Urn, Bottle, Dagon, Guinsoo. Treads or BoT. Tested and worked (14-0).
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:29 PM   #6
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OK thx to all
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:38 PM   #7
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:37 PM   #8
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not exactly itemdependant, euls, HP and other utility stuff seems like a good idea
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:26 PM   #9
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nobody talks about necro3?

I'm amused.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:33 PM   #10
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nobody talks about necro3?

I'm amused.
Necro is mainly for people with auras to boost the necro dudes. Its a waste to buy it on Thrall, since the best he can do to help them is trap the enemy in a small area.

Lycan and Rexxar are suited for Necro a lot more.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:35 PM   #11
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I think Mekasm works well on him . Since he can be a really good support hero .
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:39 PM   #12
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Necro is mainly for people with auras to boost the necro dudes. Its a waste to buy it on Thrall, since the best he can do to help them is trap the enemy in a small area.

Lycan and Rexxar are suited for Necro a lot more.
and lion/rhasta/enigma/atropos...

all disablers are fine with necro and basicaly every hero except blinkers can have nasty use of it...

With kinetic field, the necro book is a good choice, and it give movement, truesight, good for a supporter/ganker like him... Except for nuke necro>dagon in everything, for this hero it's better than dagon because he is not an instakiller...
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:52 PM   #13
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and lion/rhasta/enigma/atropos...

all disablers are fine with necro and basicaly every hero except blinkers can have nasty use of it...

With kinetic field, the necro book is a good choice, and it give movement, truesight, good for a supporter/ganker like him... Except for nuke necro>dagon in everything, for this hero it's better than dagon because he is not an instakiller...
Qop is awesome with necro actually.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:25 PM   #14
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Why making necro with QoP when you rely on mobily and nukes to kill...
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:40 PM   #15
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I`d suggest building him support in game. He already dishes alot of damage with his spells, Meka + Euls and later whatever you want to fill up the gaps.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:02 PM   #16
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Thrall is a Gladiator. He is supposed to kick the other guy's ass in the arena (Kinetic Field) and they are supposed to cry for mercy!
Some Bracers/Nulls -> Wand -> Treads -> Mjollnir/Desolater/Orchid/HotD

Ok, seeing as that probably won't get anywhere outside of pub stomping...

Euls seems to be a great item on him. Some mana, mana regen, ms, and a guaranteed KF on an enemy. Guinsoos is always good. Shivas could be a nice choice. Fairly item-independent, so just grab some HP and mana.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:41 PM   #17
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Imo dagger is core and necro is pretty good. He needs some survivability too tho, which can come with a mekansm. Bah, so much farm you'd need.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:25 AM   #18
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nobody talks about necro3?

I'm amused.
I rush Necro on him.
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:24 AM   #19
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I have played him arround 10 times. Atm my build is:

Core:
Wand
0/1/2 Bracer
Boots
Sobi
Void

Advanced:
Eul's

Luxury:
Necro3
Guinsoo
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:28 AM   #20
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imo dagger works well on him...
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:31 AM   #21
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Just remember, by lategame, not only does his ult rack up some serious damage, but his auto attack hits like a truck with the right amount of INT.
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:05 AM   #22
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I use Soul Ring -> Boots -> Dagon 2 -> BoT -> Hex -> Situational stuff

Seems to work well for me.
Why stop at 2 lol? KEEP GOING!
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:07 AM   #23
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basically anything....he's quite item independent

give some survival (linken) and some utility (guinsoo) and you're good to go...

necro3 seems good...
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:13 AM   #24
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necro is good for him, kinetic, then summon to attack the enemy + ulti
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:45 AM   #25
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I just tried this hero a while ago. Very fun to play and strong too.
I built him just like what the other common int heroes get.
phase boots, bloodstone, ginsoo, ghost scepter
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:50 AM   #26
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I use Soul Ring -> Boots -> Dagon 2 -> BoT -> Hex -> Situational stuff

Seems to work well for me.
lol, why so specific on the level of dagon?
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:55 AM   #27
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well my build is:
M'jolnir; guinsoo;BoT;dagon;orchid;heart
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:51 AM   #28
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Imo dagger is core and necro is pretty good. He needs some survivability too tho, which can come with a mekansm. Bah, so much farm you'd need.
Necro could be core, meka is good too, ignore me on the dagger part, I was freaking sure that the kinetic formed around yourself and same for the ult. Dunno why,
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:29 PM   #29
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Hi guys ,

I played him for some games, and i played him that way :

Starting : 2 x gauntlets of str , 1x tangoo , magic stick

Complete urn and wand

If you need survivability go for euls , otherwise go for a dagon.

Luxury : shivas , guinsoo


1 game i tried force stuff with his 2 nd skill it worked after that cast your kinetic field and hit him with your groin ^^


I think the starting items are the best for him currently.

By the way his Ulti is doing over the whole time 446,25 / 551,25 / 656,25 dmg without reduction.

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Old 07-29-2010, 10:35 PM   #30
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the hero already dishes out good damage with spells, has good int gain the only thing that's a problem is his survivability.

urn is a core for him that im sure. but is he a viable dps hero? i think his att animation is not that long.... though it would need a lot of farming to make him a semi carry hero. but still... HotD and cuirass on him?
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:02 AM   #31
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I dunno about you guys, but Thrall is my new favourite hero. I go DPS on him, instead of support.

My reasons for going DPS on him is very simple. If you trap someone in the field, you basically have four seconds to unleash everything on him. Four seconds = huge damage from a DPS. Combine that with all his DoT spells, and you got yourself a hard hitting DPSer.

That said, I rush Radiance on him because of its incredible synergy with his spells and the huge damage. I then get a Maelstrom for Chain lightning for some attack speed and damage (Also, it reminds me of Thrall's Chain lightning from the Campaign.)

I get a Skadi next, for epic slow, and huge stat boosts. Then I upgrade my Maelstrom to a Mjollnir. I've only gotten this far once though, was a very long inhouse game.

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Old 07-30-2010, 07:17 AM   #32
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I dunno about you guys, but Thrall is my new favourite hero. I go DPS on him, instead of support.

My reasons for going DPS on him is very simple. If you trap someone in the field, you basically have four seconds to unleash everything on him. Four seconds = huge damage from a DPS. Combine that with all his DoT spells, and you got yourself a hard hitting DPSer.

That said, I rush Radiance on him because of its incredible synergy with his spells and the huge damage. I then get a Maelstrom for Chain lightning for some attack speed and damage (Also, it reminds me of Thrall's Chain lightning from the Campaign.)

I get a Skadi next, for epic slow, and huge stat boosts. Then I upgrade my Maelstrom to a Mjollnir. I've only gotten this far once though, was a very long inhouse game.

Try out this build, you guys won't regret it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:26 AM   #33
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Here in Singapore Garena, we don't play EM. And try the build before you criticize it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:31 AM   #34
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I also like dagger on him. His ultimate seems to have a pretty low cast range, also, it's great when you can follow blinkers and glimpse them back, when you don't have sight range. And of course he can spam it for the mobility over cliffs as the ganker he is.

Of course everything else works to, but I feel like dagger should be core on him.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:32 AM   #35
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euls is core on him
Fixed it for you.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:33 AM   #36
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BG Thrall Build "SangYas, Vanguard, Vladmir, Battle Fury, Power Treads, Lothar's Edge"

seriously: Bottle, PT, Nulls and Wand. Then rush Guinsoo or Shiva
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:41 AM   #37
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Treads or Arcane Boots
Euls
Dagger

I'd say this is core to me. Then it depends on the enemys..

Necro3 if there's any1 Invis or vs some hero like leoric who gets picked much more often now ( Did a 27/6/11 game with him yesterday still i lost ^^ )
Hex but considering you can pull back the enemy from 1800 yrd its a little too heavy, still you always can make use of it
Linkens can be pretty nice considering your enemys got stunners..

Dagon? A no way item - So you take this 400 dmg and then? Manareg and stat gain are worst for a 3000g item...
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:07 PM   #38
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his base damage is pretty good actually compared to most int heroes from what i have seen!
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:05 PM   #39
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lol, why so specific on the level of dagon?
Perhaps he's play-tested thousands of times and has settled at Dagon 2 as the most fitting level to leave it on and move to the next item.

OT: He's a support/caster who doesn't have a ton of trouble with mana AKA item independent, core should be basics only. As for items that seem to synergize, of all the ones mentioned above I find Eul's and Necrobook to sound the best. 4 seconds of Necrowarrior rapage automatically qualifies him as a potential carrier of the item. Don't know about farming it though, just like Lion/Atro/etc. would rarely farm one.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:30 PM   #40
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good day ppl

well testing the imba hero I use this start

ring of reg+ 4 treads

then

boots + meka

arcane boots

then luxury

Shivas, change arcane boots for travel, then Bloodstone

i think thrall is an incredible support (debuffer too) character

well in the EM mode you can do arcane + radiance only for fun xD

but is a really good idea to try in ap-ar mode...



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