[GUIDE] How Hero Suggestion Should Look...

Jajeczko · 08-02-2010, 02:48 AM

How Hero Suggestion Should Look

Made By : Jajeczko

Edited By : NoThlnG

There are many suggestions that look good. I enjoy reading them and help with balancing them. But there are many suggestions made that put me off. Written in a very basic way without any tables or tabs. They look terrible, you don't know what is where and you are trying to fit for example cooldown with 3rd level of a spell. Only after focus will you find it. I wanted to make a guide on how hero suggestions should look, suggest some template, say what attribute gives what for those who don't know.

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Contents
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0. Before We Start

1. Advanced Statistics

2. BB Codes

3. Templates

4. My Template and How to Use It

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0. Before We Start
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What are the things that hero suggestions should have?

Name place, Model place, Skills Icons with Command Icons.
Advanced Statistic, Skills, Synergies, Changelog and Credits.

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1. Advanced Statistics
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As you know, heroes have a few primary things like Hit Points, Mana Points, Armor, Attack, Agillity etc.
I will tell you how to count what and which gives you what.

Primary Attribute

Increase the hero's attack damage by 1 per point of the attribute

Strength

Increases the Max HP of the hero by 19 hit points
Increases the HP regeneration of the hero by 0.03 HP per second

Agillity

Increases the hero's armor by 0.14 points per point of agility.
Increases the hero's attack speed by 1% per point of agility

Inteligence

Increases the hero's max Mana by 13
Increases the hero's Mana regeneration by 0.04 points per second

Attack/Cast Animation	0.3/0.7	These numbers show us how much time the hero needs to cast spell (0.3) and how much time the full animation takes to finish.
Base attack speed	1.7	It's very simple. Number 1.7 shows that hero need 1.7 second to attack. But there is no include agillity, remember each point of agillity increase attack speed by 1%
Missile Speed	900	Again simple thing. Projectile thrown by ranged hero has some speed. This speed is measured on the same scale as movement speed.

Hit Points	HP is calculated by a simple rule	(Str*19)+150
Mana Points	MP is very similar	Int*13

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2. BB Codes
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Before making and using a template, you should know how to use BB Code tags.

This is a table:

Boring	Guide
What boring	Guide

HTML Code:

[table]Boring|Guide
What boring|Guide[/table]

Boring	Guide
What boring	Guide

HTML Code:

[table=old]Boring|Guide
What boring|Guide[/table]

To separate one cell from another use "|". To create a new row in a table, simply return a line (either "Enter" or "Return").

This is a tab:

What boring

HTML Code:

[tab]Boring|Guide|
What boring
{|}
Guide[/tab]

Similar to previous, to separate tab headings type "|", but after that when you want to use each tab for text you have write {|} between one text and another.

This is a spoiler

HTML Code:

[spoiler="Boring Guide"]Boring Guide[/spoiler]

Use "" after 'Spoiler =' to put words after 'Show'

You now know basic knowledge of BB Code on this forum.

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3. Templates
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Here are some templates you can use:

Hero Template (PlayDotA Official) | Alternative Version

Hero Template (Dark Kenshi)

Hero Template (The_Juggernaut)

Hero Template (The Lord God)

Hero Template (NoThlnG)

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4. My Template and How to Use It
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I will show you my hero suggestion and my template. After that I will show you how to use the template.

Shadow Assassin

Ryld

Strength	Agility	Intelligence

17 + [1.8]	23 + [2.9]	18 + [2.3]

Starting HP/MP:	473/234
Base Stats:	58
Stats Gain:	7
Primary Role:	Ganker

Affiliation:	Neutral	Health Reg:	0,51
Damage:	47-57	Mana Reg:	0,72
Armor:	3	Base Attack Time:	1.6
Movespeed:	310	Missile Speed:	Instant
Attack Range:	100	Sight Range:	1500 / 1200

Type: Active

Targeting:Enemy Heroes

Hotkey: R

Ryld marks the target with invisible shrouds. Shrouds can be marked on only one target with cap of 6 at last spell level. Target doesn't know he is the target of shroud.

__	____.	________.	_______.	___.	_______.	__________________________.
	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	35	12 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 3. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
2	40	10 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 4. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
3	45	8 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 5. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
4	50	6 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 6. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.

Notes:

Shroud is invisible.
Only one target can be affected by shroud.
If Ryld use shroud on another hero, shrouds are disappearing from previous target.
If enemy die cause of Ryld shrouds are disappearing. If not shrouds are existing.

By attaching shrouds on target Ryld gains advantage over an enemy.

Ryld has much advantage when enemy doesnt see him, doesnt see anything, cannot cast spells cause of silence. Only way to survive is run away.

Ryld is Shadow Walker. Shadows is thing that are everywhere so he can from everywhere blink to his target and attack from behind. After disable enemy he's attacking him quickly with more damages cause of shrouds. Ryld always see target so he can wait for good time to "denied" enemy.

This three skills are deadly together. After blink He changes form that makes target silenced.

This skill is only improving everything else. Its good way to maximalize damages, speed, or reduce cooldown of spells.

jesusatan - For better icons than mine. He made well job.

NoThlnG - For model to my suggesttion.

And here is a code:

As you see in the template, I've used some graphics to improve it to create a nice lookings hero.
In all structures like tables, tabs, spoilers, quotse, code background is black so mine Hero Suggestions looks worse than with dark gray.

Now to put your hero here you have to swap text and images.

Hero Introduction

HTML Code:

[tab]Model|Story|Close Tabs|
[center][table][center][IMG]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4110/iconkopia.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER][nqb][LEFT][COLOR="orange"][SIZE="4"][B]Shadow Assassin[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/LEFT][center][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Ryld[/SIZE][/COLOR][/center][/nqb][left][CENTER][nqb][IMG]http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5139/assassinv.gif[/IMG][/nqb][/CENTER][nqb][/nqb] |[IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNMovecopy.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNStopcopy.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNHoldPositioncopy.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNAttackcopy.jpg[/IMG][left][IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNPatrol.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://gickr.com/results4/anim_dee27b80-de1d-d5a4-094b-508bdcfc3855.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab252/Nozumu/filler.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p232/spiteless/DotA%20Icons/BTNSkillz.jpg[/IMG][left][IMG]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1816/32007809.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4388/32459085.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3484/84711697.jpg[/IMG][/left][/left][/left][/table][/center]
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[center][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/bkstory.gif[/IMG][/center][b]D[/B]ark elves made a guild at Lolth's instructions. They are the most dengerous enemies in Underdark but with the teaching of the assassins guild masters they became so powerful that no one could escape from their dark shadow magic which would devour them. Ryld who was the best of guild's students, he was sent to the surface to improve his skills. Last words that Ryld heard from his master was "Do not disappoint me" - "I won't" thought Ryld.
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I know its looks big. But its not - there are many links and many texts.
First line is as you know tab. Second are Hero Subname, Hero Name, Hero Icons, Hero Model and Skill Icons. Just put you images on server like ImageShack® - Online Media Hosting and copy link from you image here.

Advanced Statistic

HTML Code:

[tab]Starting Statistic|Statistic Level 16|Statistic Level 25|
[CENTER][table][table][COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Strength[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="orange"][SIZE="1"][CENTER][B]Agility[/B][/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Intelligence[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]
[CENTER][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/strength.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/agility-c.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/intelligence.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE="1"]17 + [1.8][/SIZE][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]23 + [2.9][/SIZE][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]18 + [2.3][/SIZE][/CENTER][/table]|[table][COLOR="lightblue"]Starting HP/MP:[/color]|[COLOR="Red"]473[/COLOR]/[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]234[/COLOR]
[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Stats:[/color]|58
[COLOR="lightblue"]Stats Gain:[/color]|7
[COLOR="lightblue"]Primary Role:[/color]|Ganker[/table][/table][/center][table][/table]
[center][table][COLOR="lightblue"]Affiliation:[/COLOR]|Neutral||[COLOR="lightblue"]Health Reg:[/color]|0,51
[COLOR="lightblue"]Damage:[/COLOR]|47-57||[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana Reg:[/color]|0,72
[COLOR="lightblue"]Armor:[/COLOR]|3||[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Attack Time:[/color]|1.6
[COLOR="lightblue"]Movespeed:[/COLOR]|310||[COLOR="lightblue"]Missile Speed:[/color]|Instant
[COLOR="lightblue"]Attack Range:[/COLOR]|100||[COLOR="lightblue"]Sight Range:[/color]|1500 / 1200[/table][/center]
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[CENTER][table][table][COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Strength[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="orange"][SIZE="1"][CENTER][B]Agility[/B][/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Intelligence[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]
[CENTER][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/strength.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/agility-c.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/intelligence.jpg[/IMG]
[center][SIZE="1"]44[/SIZE][/CENTER][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]66[/SIZE][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]52[/SIZE][/CENTER][/table]|[table][COLOR="lightblue"]HP/MP:[/color]|[COLOR="Red"]986[/COLOR]/[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]676[/COLOR]
[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Stats:[/color]|126
[COLOR="lightblue"]Stats Gain:[/color]|7
[COLOR="lightblue"]Primary Role:[/color]|Ganker[/table][/table][/center][table][/table]
[center][table][COLOR="lightblue"]Affiliation:[/COLOR]|Neutral||[COLOR="lightblue"]Health Reg:[/color]|1,32
[COLOR="lightblue"]Damage:[/COLOR]|90-100||[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana Reg:[/color]|2,08
[COLOR="lightblue"]Armor:[/COLOR]|9||[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Attack Time:[/color]|1.6
[COLOR="lightblue"]Movespeed:[/COLOR]|310||[COLOR="lightblue"]Missile Speed:[/color]|Instant
[COLOR="lightblue"]Attack Range:[/COLOR]|100||[COLOR="lightblue"]Sight Range:[/color]|1500 / 1200[/table][/center]
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[CENTER][table][table][COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Strength[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="orange"][SIZE="1"][CENTER][B]Agility[/B][/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"][SIZE="1"][CENTER]Intelligence[/CENTER][/SIZE][/color]
[CENTER][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/strength.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/agility-c.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]|[CENTER][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/intelligence.jpg[/IMG]
[center][SIZE="1"]60[/SIZE][/CENTER][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]92[/SIZE][/CENTER]|[CENTER][SIZE="1"]73[/SIZE][/CENTER][/table]|[table][COLOR="lightblue"]HP/MP:[/color]|[COLOR="Red"]1290[/COLOR]/[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]949[/COLOR]
[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Stats:[/color]|225
[COLOR="lightblue"]Stats Gain:[/color]|7
[COLOR="lightblue"]Primary Role:[/color]|Ganker[/table][/table][/center][table][/table]
[center][table][COLOR="lightblue"]Affiliation:[/COLOR]|Neutral||[COLOR="lightblue"]Health Reg:[/color]|1,8
[COLOR="lightblue"]Damage:[/COLOR]|116-126||[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana Reg:[/color]|2,92
[COLOR="lightblue"]Armor:[/COLOR]|13||[COLOR="lightblue"]Base Attack Time:[/color]|1.6
[COLOR="lightblue"]Movespeed:[/COLOR]|310||[COLOR="lightblue"]Missile Speed:[/color]|Instant
[COLOR="lightblue"]Attack Range:[/COLOR]|100||[COLOR="lightblue"]Sight Range:[/color]|1500 / 1200[/table][/center][/tab]

This is harder than before because of many tables. As I wrote before, table is separated by "|". I wrote in this code three levels of Advanced Statistic. Starting, 16'th lvl, and 25'th lvl. To fully write your hero use Notepad. It's the best way to do this.

To change primary attribute swap colors orange/lightblue and add at the end of link -c.jpg. For example:

	http://www.playdota.com/img/site/strength.jpg
	http://www.playdota.com/img/site/strength-c.jpg

Skills

Best way to complete skills is to use tabs as before.

HTML Code:

[tab]Shroud|Shade Form|Assassins Training|[COLOR="Orange"][B]Waling through the shadows[/B][/COLOR]|Close Tabs
[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img][img]http://gickr.com/results4/anim_dee27b80-de1d-d5a4-094b-508bdcfc3855.gif[/img]|[table][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Type:[/COLOR] Active[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Targeting:[/COLOR]Enemy Heroes[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Hotkey:[/COLOR] R[/SIZE][/table]|Ryld marks the target with invisible shrouds. Shrouds can be marked on only one target with cap of 6 at last spell level. Target doesn't know he is the target of shroud.[/table]
[img]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/stable.jpg[/img][table][COLOR="#101410"]__[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]____.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]________.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]___.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]__________________________.[/color]
|[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Cooldown[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]C. Range[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]AoE[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Duration[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Effects[/color]
[COLOR="Orange"]1[/COLOR]|35|12 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 3. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]2[/COLOR]|40|10 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 4. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]3[/COLOR]|45|8 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 5. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]4[/COLOR]|50|6 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 6. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.[/table]

[table]Notes:|[list][*][size="1"]Shroud is invisible.[/size][*][size="1"]Only one target can be affected by shroud.[/size][*][size="1"]If Ryld use shroud on another hero, shrouds are disappearing from previous target.[/size][*][size="1"]If enemy die cause of Ryld shrouds are disappearing. If not shrouds are existing.[/size][/list][/table]
{|}[table][img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1816/32007809.jpg[/img]|[table][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Type:[/COLOR] Active[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Targeting:[/COLOR]Self[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Hotkey:[/COLOR]D[/SIZE][/table]|Ryld is changing his form into shade. He becomes shadow cloud. All hits which is target has 50% miss, also when shadow cover enemies they are silenced until they leave area of shadow or duration will end. All enemies cover by shadow are losing vision.[/table]
[img]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/stable.jpg[/img]
[table][COLOR="#101410"]__[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]____.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]________.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]___.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]__________________________.[/color]
|[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Cooldown[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Range[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]AoE[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Duration[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Effects[/color]
[COLOR="Orange"]1[/COLOR]|140|70 seconds|N/A|150|3s|Reduce target vision sight by 40%
[COLOR="Orange"]2[/COLOR]|170|62 seconds|N/A|150|6s|Reduce target vision sight by 60%
[COLOR="Orange"]3[/COLOR]|200|54 seconds|N/A|150|12s|Reduce target vision sight by 80%
[COLOR="Orange"]4[/COLOR]|230|46 seconds|N/A|150|24s|Reduce target vision sight by 100%[/table]


[table]Notes:|[list][size="1"]Ryld and allies are immune of shadow effect.[/size][*][size="1"]It looks like Rikimaru cloud but its dark.[/size][/list][/table]
{|}[table][img]http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4388/32459085.jpg[/img]|[table][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Type:[/COLOR] Passive[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Targeting:[/COLOR]None[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Hotkey:[/COLOR]None[/SIZE][/table]|More training means more succesful murder. Ryld goes into the wild terrain, driven by his will to master his skills. Each level of skill improved, will also improve the previous abilities. [/table] 
[img]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/stable.jpg[/img]
[table][COLOR="#101410"]__[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]____.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]________.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]___.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]__________________________.[/color]
|[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Cooldown[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Range[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]AoE[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Duration[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Effects[/color]
[COLOR="Orange"]1[/COLOR]|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|Adds one damage against target of shroud.
[COLOR="Orange"]2[/COLOR]|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|Reduce cooldown of Shade Form by 2s
[COLOR="Orange"]3[/COLOR]|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|Adds one shroud more in cap of shroud. 
[COLOR="Orange"]4[/COLOR]|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|N/A|Ryld, and allies gains vision of shrouds target. Reveals invisible hero too.There is cap with seeing the invisible.[/table]

[table]Notes:|[list][*][Size="1"]On four level of skill Ryld gains:[/size][*][Size="1"]+4 damages per shroud agains target.[/size][*][Size="1"]-6s cooldown with Shade Form.[/size][*][Size="1"]+2 max shrouds on target.[/size][*][Size="1"]Vision of the target and possible to invoke shrouds even in base[/size][*][Size="1"]Ryld have to put three or more shrouds to see invisible hero[/size][*][Size="1"]Ryld gains vision of target with one shroud but not invisible hero[/size][/list][/table]
{|}[table][img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3484/84711697.jpg[/img]|[table][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Type:[/COLOR]Active[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Targeting:[/COLOR]Shroud Target[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Hotkey:[/COLOR]W[/SIZE][/table]|Ryld can instantly teleport to his shroud's target. Then he will deal the multiplier of his maximum damages and stun. [/table]
[img]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/stable.jpg[/img]
[table][COLOR="#101410"]__[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]____.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]________.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]___.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]__________________________.[/color]
|[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Cooldown[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Range[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]AoE[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Duration[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Effects[/color]
[COLOR="Orange"]1[/COLOR]|160|120|Global|N/A|N/A|Damage 1.5 of his max damages and stun for 0,5s. If target hasnt all shrouds on him add one shroud.
[COLOR="Orange"]2[/COLOR]|200|100|Global|N/A|N/A|Damage 2.0 of his max damages and stun for 0,5s. If target hasnt all shrouds on him add two shrouds.
[COLOR="Orange"]3[/COLOR]|240|80|Global|N/A|N/A|Damage 2.5 of his max damages and stun for 0,5. If target hasnt all shrouds on him add three shrouds.[/table]

[table]Notes:|[list][size="1"]Ryld is attacking from behind.[/size][*][size="1"]Type of damages: Pure[/size][/list][/table]
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This is full text of all four skills. And this is one of the skills for example:

HTML Code:

[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img][img]http://gickr.com/results4/anim_dee27b80-de1d-d5a4-094b-508bdcfc3855.gif[/img]|[table][SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Type:[/COLOR] Active[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Targeting:[/COLOR]Enemy Heroes[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="LightBlue"]Hotkey:[/COLOR] R[/SIZE][/table]|Ryld marks the target with invisible shrouds. Shrouds can be marked on only one target with cap of 6 at last spell level. Target doesn't know he is the target of shroud.[/table]
[img]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/stable.jpg[/img][table][COLOR="#101410"]__[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]____.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]________.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/color]|[COLOR="#101410"]___.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]_______.[/COLOR]|[COLOR="#101410"]__________________________.[/color]
|[COLOR="lightblue"]Mana[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Cooldown[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]C. Range[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]AoE[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Duration[/color]|[COLOR="lightblue"]Effects[/color]
[COLOR="Orange"]1[/COLOR]|35|12 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 3. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]2[/COLOR]|40|10 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 4. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]3[/COLOR]|45|8 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 5. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
[COLOR="Orange"]4[/COLOR]|50|6 seconds|1000|N/A|N/A|Cap of shroud 6. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.[/table]

[table]Notes:|[list][*][size="1"]Shroud is invisible.[/size][*][size="1"]Only one target can be affected by shroud.[/size][*][size="1"]If Ryld use shroud on another hero, shrouds are disappearing from previous target.[/size][*][size="1"]If enemy die cause of Ryld shrouds are disappearing. If not shrouds are existing.[/size][/list][/table]

Type: Active

Targeting:Enemy Heroes

Hotkey: R

Ryld marks the target with invisible shrouds. Shrouds can be marked on only one target with cap of 6 at last spell level. Target doesn't know he is the target of shroud.

__	____.	________.	_______.	___.	_______.	__________________________.
	Mana	Cooldown	C. Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	35	12 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 3. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
2	40	10 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 4. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
3	45	8 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 5. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.
4	50	6 seconds	1000	N/A	N/A	Cap of shroud 6. For each shroud Ryld have +5 ias, +6 damage against target.

Notes:

Shroud is invisible.
Only one target can be affected by shroud.
If Ryld use shroud on another hero, shrouds are disappearing from previous target.
If enemy die cause of Ryld shrouds are disappearing. If not shrouds are existing.

At the begining are icons. My hero suggestion has subskills for the first skill so there are two icons. Just swap you link with that. After that are: Type of Spell, Target of Spell and Hotkey.
Again after that is the normal description of the spell. What he does etc.
Now we are at whole table of numbers. There are four lines which are four levels of spell. Between "|" are: Mana, Cooldown, Cast Range, AoE, Duration, Effects. Each line has the same but for another level of spell.
Ultimate spell has just one line less.
At end of the spell description are notes.

HTML Code:

[table]Notes:|[list][*][size="1"]Shroud is invisible.[/size][*][size="1"]Only one target can be affected by shroud.[/size][*][size="1"]If Ryld use shroud on another hero, shrouds are disappearing from previous target.[/size][*][size="1"]If enemy die cause of Ryld shrouds are disappearing. If not shrouds are existing.[/size][/list][/table]

You should use them for writing mechanics things about spells like what damage type the skill has or the physical effects of the skill i.e. knockback, delivery system.
To note something use table and then [list][/list]. Each note is separated by Enter->[*]. Got it?

Synergies
I know this is useless and you don't like to complete it etc, but this is very important. Not every skill has good a description so synergies show users how the combinations of spells work. The same for hero and items. It helps users imagine your hero with another and with some equipment. Right?

HTML Code:

[tab]Skills Synergy|Hero Synergy|Item Synergy|Close Tabs
[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img]| By attaching shrouds on target Ryld gains advantage over an enemy. [/table]
[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img]|[img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1816/32007809.jpg[/img]|Ryld has much advantage when enemy doesnt see him, doesnt see anything, cannot cast spells cause of silence. Only way to survive is run away.[/table]
[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img]|[img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3484/84711697.jpg[/img]|Ryld is Shadow Walker. Shadows is thing that are everywhere so he can from everywhere blink to his target and attack from behind. After disable enemy he's attacking him quickly with more damages cause of shrouds. Ryld always see target so he can wait for good time to "denied" enemy.[/table]
[table][img]http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/770/68445945.jpg[/img]|[img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1816/32007809.jpg[/img]|[img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3484/84711697.jpg[/img]|This three skills are deadly together. After blink He changes form that makes target silenced.[/table]
[table][img]http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4388/32459085.jpg[/img]|This skill is only improving everything else. Its good way to maximalize damages, speed, or reduce cooldown of spells.[/table]
{|}
Ryld is alone warrior. He can easy kill one choosen target. That is his pros. Cons is that he cannot be good against gang for himself for example. 
His best allies are Mirana, Ezalor, Axe, etc. Those heroes helps him escape from gangs and battles within he would die.

His worst enemies are heroes that can silence him fast. For example Trax or Silencer. His stun is only 0.5s so he can only invoke shrouds in this time, if he do that too late he lost much of damages for few seconds. In this time enemy allies can help him and that is worst.
All heroes that are disablers are worst for Ryld.
{|}
Items set is quite simple:
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/84/icon.jpg[/img]|With his fast attack enemy mana will be burn fast, and that will help him win[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/87/icon.jpg[/img]|Another possibly item instead of Diffusial is Desolator. Less armor with much damage...[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/125/icon.jpg[/img]|Do I have to explain?[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/71/icon.jpg[/img]|As before, do I have to explain?[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/7/icon.jpg[/img]|Less enemy armor and more attack speed is deadly for enemy hero.[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/122/icon.jpg[/img]|Everyone needs lifesteal, Ryld need it too. Always is possibly that he can be damaged.[/table]
[table][img]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/68/icon.jpg[/img]|Do I have to explain?[/table]
{|}[/tab]

Its almost simpliest thing in a hero suggestion. Just swap skill images and complete the description of the synergy. I think after all you do not need my help here.

Other

THIS is simpliest thing in hero. Just credits and changelog.
If you had some help from other users or if you used someone icons, templates, models etc write it here.
About changelog? If your hero suggestion is good or is bad it shows users what you changed here. Fuck... for what I'm saying that, you know that...

jesusatan - For better icons than mine. He made well job.

NoThlnG - For model to my suggesttion.

IVIr.PL0W · 08-02-2010, 03:09 AM

This will help me progress Lucky the Leprechaun much more easily. Thank you very much.

cc.jmk! · 08-02-2010, 03:12 AM

oh dude, this is MASSIVE. You said yourself that you don't like to read un-formatted suggestions; think about someone reading this from top to bottom. Narrow aspects down; use tabs, separate different subjects as "How to format your suggestion"; "how to calculate base statistics"; etcetcetc.. because this is as unreadable as the worst suggestion you've ever seen :P

No mean to offense, you just need to work on it more, and it may become a good guide ^^

Jajeczko · 08-02-2010, 03:20 AM

@IVIr.PL0W
Thanks

@ccjmk
I've post it in 2 hours. Unfortunetly I have to go to work so I will rework it after work.

But I think now it helps make suggestion more... readable

I hope there aren't much mistakes in english. Im still learning it.

Shadow Fury · 08-02-2010, 03:29 AM

Would you like me to put all the categories into tabs?

Foede · 08-02-2010, 07:04 AM

Thanks a lot for this. I'll add it to the suggs Compilation of Useful Links

Jajeczko · 08-02-2010, 01:32 PM

@The Lord God
I'm not sure what do you want from me. Your question for me has double means, which gives no sence.

ReaC · 08-02-2010, 03:46 PM

w0w! thx for posting a forum like this! this is awesome

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 12:16 AM

I am having trouble with 1 aspect of creating a Hero Guide. If I want to put text to the right of a table. How would I do so? It seems nqb is the answer? But I am not sure, please help. For example: See basic info/background of Rumpelstiltskin and how sloppy it is.

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 01:14 AM

After messign with code for an hour to no avail... please help
I want Background|Basic Stats
.........................|[more stats
Mythology...........|[more stats
.........................|[more stats
2 columns (2nd column divided into two parts)
1st column: 1 row
2nd column: a bunch

Click on Rumpelstiltskin for a clearer image of my struggles

Foede · 08-04-2010, 01:40 AM

http://www.playdota.com/forums/90893/useful-dota-links/ -> DotA Forums - BB Code List

http://www.playdota.com/forums/53708...-useful-links/ -> http://www.playdota.com/forums/58351...e-hero-making/ and http://www.playdota.com/forums/28276...y-sheep-draft/

King Murdoc · 08-04-2010, 02:57 AM

umm. sorry i have a decent hero idea but i really dont want to spend hours memorizing text codes and punching them in, THE finding URLs of all the picture and filling in all the text. Ur walls of code are intimidating to someone wit coding knowledge less than that of a cat. plz make smaller, less terrifying.

Jajeczko · 08-04-2010, 03:17 AM

@KingMurdoc
Here its only explanation what is what. At begining of Template section is whole template fully made. You can cut paste and only what you have to do is swap text. If its still to much for you at end on mine post are another templates.

@IVIr.PL0W

There is no possible to do it like you want. Text is always at tables is making as wide as he can. If there is no more space for second table this table just go under previous. Better use tabs

stats	stats
stats	stats
stats	stats
stast	stats

HTML Code:

[tab]Stats|Background
[table]stats|stats
stats|stats
stats|stats
stast|stats[/table]
{|}
Background[/tab]

Foede · 08-04-2010, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMurdoc

umm. sorry i have a decent hero idea but i really dont want to spend hours memorizing text codes and punching them in, THE finding URLs of all the picture and filling in all the text. Ur walls of code are intimidating to someone wit coding knowledge less than that of a cat. plz make smaller, less terrifying.

Check some of the links I posted. They might help you. If you need help with something specific, you can always ask around for help

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingMurdoc

umm. sorry i have a decent hero idea but i really dont want to spend hours memorizing text codes and punching them in, THE finding URLs of all the picture and filling in all the text. Ur walls of code are intimidating to someone wit coding knowledge less than that of a cat. plz make smaller, less terrifying.

Hey, I know where your coming from man. You don't have to understand everything though. The guides did help me learn how to construct tables and tabs

The message editor alone will walk you through a good bit of hero creation. But it won't make it look pretty.
[start], could be a number of commands
[/finish] finishes the command:
For example: {color} "your text" {/color} will make your text that color. Replace the { } with [ ] though, i did to avoid program recognizing color command. Please view { } as a substitution for [ ] for simplicity purposes.

Let's say you want to make a table:
1:2
2:4
3:6
4:8
To start the table type the [ ]. The | is to the right of ] key. The | serves the purpose of separating your columns.
{Table}"1st row 1st column"|"1st row 2nd column"|"1st row 3rd column.

If you want to add a second row. You need to go to a new line (press enter). So adding a second row would look something like this:

{Table}"1st row 1st column"|"1st row 2nd column"|"1st row 3rd column".
"2nd row 1st column"|"2nd row 2nd column"|"2nd row 3rd column" {/table}

When you want to end your table, follow it with the end command {/table}.

Now, just replace every instance of { } with [ ], and it looks like this:

1	2
2	4
3	6
4	8

Now you try!

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jajeczko

@KingMurdoc
Here its only explanation what is what. At begining of Template section is whole template fully made. You can cut paste and only what you have to do is swap text. If its still to much for you at end on mine post are another templates.

@IVIr.PL0W

There is no possible to do it like you want. Text is always at tables is making as wide as he can. If there is no more space for second table this table just go under previous. Better use tabs

stats	stats
stats	stats
stats	stats
stast	stats

HTML Code:

[tab]Stats|Background
[table]stats|stats
stats|stats
stats|stats
stast|stats[/table]
{|}
Background[/tab]

Yea it took me an hour to figure out it couldn't be done when I came to the realization that you really cant do it like newspaper, its just not in the mechanics of the program script, or whatever it is. I found a way around it by adding information to the table. Guess and Check self-teaching ftw.

Nizaris · 08-04-2010, 03:58 AM

This type of template make harder to compare each skills because have to click one at a time, unlike older template where we can see all in one time make easier to compare skills. And it is confusing too.

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizaris

This type of template make harder to compare each skills because have to click one at a time, unlike older template where we can see all in one time make easier to compare skills. And it is confusing too.

So True! People remember about a 1/3 of what they read. How are people going to understand hero skills/synergy if the 4 abilities are each on a different page... "Oh crap I forgot what that skill does let me go back to that other page". "Oh Crap, was it Holy Blessing, or Holy strength"... This is terrible, its just much easier to have everything on the same page(4skills) so your brain can see the big picture and grasp the entire concept.

Examine the skills tab on either of my heros and tell me you can't read a half-3/4 of a page and I'll shut up.

NoThlnG · 08-04-2010, 06:03 AM

Hmm.. An unformatted guide to unformatted suggestions to have formatted suggestions...

IVIr.PL0W · 08-04-2010, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Hmm.. An unformatted guide to unformatted suggestions to have formatted suggestions...

See I'm productive

hahaha

08-02-2010, 03:29 AM	#5
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Foede Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Argentina Posts: 10,246	Re: How hero suggest should look... http://www.playdota.com/forums/90893/useful-dota-links/ -> DotA Forums - BB Code List http://www.playdota.com/forums/53708...-useful-links/ -> http://www.playdota.com/forums/58351...e-hero-making/ and http://www.playdota.com/forums/28276...y-sheep-draft/ __________________ *Useful DotA Links Collection* Quick Help Mod // Mech ~~fag wannabe~~ Mod // Sugg ~~lurker~~ Mod // Spanish translator My suggs: [NAMES] Summons and Wards [Tooltip] Phase Boots [Game Info] Simple mech rules [Scoreboard] some minor fixes

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