[IO]Tether Slight Tweak & Overcharge Distribution

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 10:39 AM

TETHER

Present Tether's mana cost is in format
40 at each level.

But dont u think it is too less as compared to effects it gives(35%ms boost + 2sec stun + cd 12sec+12sec duration+ 1800 casting range). It is key skill of Io. So i suggest that it should be

It should now look as 35/50/65/80 at Level 1/2/3/4 respectively.

Also casting range needs to be nerfed to 1400.

OVERCHARGE

Present distribution is of format 2.5% of current Mana cost and Hp.

Presented :

Level 1 : 2% of current hp and mp.

Level 2 : 2.2% of current hp and mp.

Level 3 : 2.4% of current hp and mp.

Level 4 : 2.6% of current hp and mp.

Hope u all like it. Need replies.

Monsterlord · 08-04-2010, 11:05 AM

Do like, tbh.

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Monsterlord

Do like, tbh.

thanks it will balance Io

Shadow Fury · 08-04-2010, 01:41 PM

T-Down both. Look at Io's pathetic stat gain. 1.7 INT gain isn't going to support much spamming, and as you said, it is Io's key skill and requires a lot of spamming.

On the other hand, 60 IAS for 1% HP+MP/sec is OBVIOUSLY going to be abused, and nobody would level it till extreme lategame. Perhaps 1.8/2/2.4/2.6 but 1% is too little. It's not even like he has a lot of HP to support it.

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lord God

T-Down both. Look at Io's pathetic stat gain. 1.7 INT gain isn't going to support much spamming, and as you said, it is Io's key skill and requires a lot of spamming.

On the other hand, 60 IAS for 1% HP+MP/sec is OBVIOUSLY going to be abused, and nobody would level it till extreme lategame. Perhaps 1.8/2/2.4/2.6 but 1% is too little. It's not even like he has a lot of HP to support it.

ok i am making overload as u said.

But tether has only 12 sec cd and it remains for 12 sec. And 40 mana cost is very low for 35% ms increament and 2 sec stun.

Shadow Fury · 08-04-2010, 04:01 PM

I'd say 50 should suffice, then.

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lord God

I'd say 50 should suffice, then.

maybe 55. Ok 40/45/50/55. Is it okay now! Or maybe 35/40/45/50.

FunnyWarfare · 08-04-2010, 04:23 PM

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35%ms boost + 2sec stun + cd 12sec+12sec duration + mobility + total brokeness of healing your mate and pulling him through the whole map

fixed.^^

t-up ofc

BorisPeace- · 08-04-2010, 05:28 PM

Well it certainly is better.

T-Up from me.

SpiderPig · 08-04-2010, 05:33 PM

my sugestion: when u theter 1 aly and huskar healed that aly u will be healed 2

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunnyWarfare

fixed.^^

t-up ofc

thanks

@boris thanks

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Znu55

my sugestion: when u theter 1 aly and huskar healed that aly u will be healed 2

well, then problem remains same. This skill will be OP again.

Bad Apple · 08-04-2010, 07:01 PM

Id have to disagree with The Lord God about Tether, I actually think that it needs to be nerfed more. At the very least the cast range. 1800 cast range for a non-ulti displacement spell [unless you count Teleport] is unheard of. Magina has to wait to level 7 to gain a 1150 range for his Blink or for Void to gain 1300 range for his Timewalk. Given that Tether can only be cast on an ally unit, but Io was made to be a support hero, there has always got to be an ally nearby. Plus Tether is so much more rewarding than any displacement spell in the game. Maybe increase the mana cost to about 100 [Io has high base INT, he can manage] and lower the cast range to 1400 or something.

T-UP on Overload.

infer · 08-04-2010, 07:30 PM

Oh god, a simple suggestion thread of increasing the mana cost by 15 evolves into a "Nerf io cuz he's original and useful and i don't want to find out how to kill him" piece of shit thread -.-

Bad Apple · 08-04-2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infer

Oh god, a simple suggestion thread of increasing the mana cost by 15 evolves into a "Nerf io cuz he's original and useful and i don't want to find out how to kill him" piece of shit thread -.-

Then ignore lower cast range. I was just rationalizing why I think Tether needs a higher mana cost.

raffyv · 08-04-2010, 07:53 PM

T-up..

I can't believe I never thought of touching Tether's manacost. I've been thinking of a good way to balance Io.

I still say we should increase Relocate cast-time to 4/3/2

Ignore infer, he has this thing about ignoring obvious imbalances.. Io as a concept is not imba.. But the numbers on his skills are way too good. He deserves a small nerf in one or two of his skill and he still will not lose much effectiveness.

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 08:49 PM

Thanks to all guys for supporting this suggestion!

damN_Grave · 08-04-2010, 10:17 PM

There are a few problems, such as what The Lord God mentioned.
But I support this. My review is pretty much what everyone else is saying (except maybe infer). T-up

Punj,Love Hater · 08-04-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeLLe

There are a few problems, such as what The Lord God mentioned.
But I support this. My review is pretty much what everyone else is saying (except maybe infer). T-up

thanks! Lord god's statement is not suited. U see his mana pool of 1400 very high in comparison to 70. Check effects given by tether. Well it was too high.

Redeemed A.I. · 08-04-2010, 11:43 PM

What are you talking about?A stun that does too many things should not cost 40,much like 140!!

40-70 is the least nerf.

But I wouldn't recommend rushing numerical suggestions yet....

08-04-2010, 10:39 AM	#1
Punj,Love Hater Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In 5th dimension Posts: 1,744	[IO]Tether Slight Tweak & Overcharge Distribution TETHER Present Tether's mana cost is in format 40 at each level. But dont u think it is too less as compared to effects it gives(35%ms boost + 2sec stun + cd 12sec+12sec duration+ 1800 casting range). It is key skill of Io. So i suggest that it should be It should now look as 35/50/65/80 at Level 1/2/3/4 respectively. Also casting range needs to be nerfed to 1400. OVERCHARGE Present distribution is of format 2.5% of current Mana cost and Hp. Presented : Level 1 : 2% of current hp and mp. Level 2 : 2.2% of current hp and mp. Level 3 : 2.4% of current hp and mp. Level 4 : 2.6% of current hp and mp. Hope u all like it. Need replies. __________________ [HERO][STR-NEU]Gwentyn,the Harpy Witch,Testmap loaded [ITEM]Wanna eat biscuit in dota [Remake] Io's Buffs and Nerfs [ULTI]Reincarnating Summon REVIEW REQUESTS ON

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08-04-2010, 11:05 AM	#2
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,837	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu Do like, tbh.

08-04-2010, 01:41 PM	#4
Shadow Fury Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Draining Your Life Juice. Posts: 10,204 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu T-Down both. Look at Io's pathetic stat gain. 1.7 INT gain isn't going to support much spamming, and as you said, it is Io's key skill and requires a lot of spamming. On the other hand, 60 IAS for 1% HP+MP/sec is OBVIOUSLY going to be abused, and nobody would level it till extreme lategame. Perhaps 1.8/2/2.4/2.6 but 1% is too little. It's not even like he has a lot of HP to support it.

08-04-2010, 04:01 PM	#6
Shadow Fury Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Draining Your Life Juice. Posts: 10,204 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu I'd say 50 should suffice, then.

08-04-2010, 05:28 PM	#9
BorisPeace- Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: GetUnitLoc(udg_Boris) Posts: 2,163 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu Well it certainly is better. T-Up from me. __________________ 85th out of 719461 ----------------------------------------------- Turkish Gaming Center @www.gamehonor.com

08-04-2010, 05:33 PM	#10
SpiderPig Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In my home. Posts: 3,822	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu my sugestion: when u theter 1 aly and huskar healed that aly u will be healed 2

08-04-2010, 07:01 PM	#13
Bad Apple Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sealed away, chained in the 9th circle of Hell, whispering through the veil for unwary souls to come Posts: 3,679 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu Id have to disagree with The Lord God about Tether, I actually think that it needs to be nerfed more. At the very least the cast range. 1800 cast range for a non-ulti displacement spell [unless you count Teleport] is unheard of. Magina has to wait to level 7 to gain a 1150 range for his Blink or for Void to gain 1300 range for his Timewalk. Given that Tether can only be cast on an ally unit, but Io was made to be a support hero, there has always got to be an ally nearby. Plus Tether is so much more rewarding than any displacement spell in the game. Maybe increase the mana cost to about 100 [Io has high base INT, he can manage] and lower the cast range to 1400 or something. T-UP on Overload. __________________

08-04-2010, 07:30 PM	#14
infer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,012	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu Oh god, a simple suggestion thread of increasing the mana cost by 15 evolves into a "Nerf io cuz he's original and useful and i don't want to find out how to kill him" piece of shit thread -.-

08-04-2010, 08:49 PM	#17
Punj,Love Hater Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In 5th dimension Posts: 1,744	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu Thanks to all guys for supporting this suggestion! __________________ [HERO][STR-NEU]Gwentyn,the Harpy Witch,Testmap loaded [ITEM]Wanna eat biscuit in dota [Remake] Io's Buffs and Nerfs [ULTI]Reincarnating Summon REVIEW REQUESTS ON

08-04-2010, 10:17 PM	#18
damN_Grave Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Caribbean Posts: 6,482	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu There are a few problems, such as what The Lord God mentioned. But I support this. My review is pretty much what everyone else is saying (except maybe infer). T-up __________________ GRAVEDAMN'S POETRY ON FACEBOOK Click the coloured words! Signature returning ~~soon~~ in June!

08-04-2010, 11:43 PM	#20
Redeemed A.I. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Greece.Μακεδονία Posts: 8,185	Re: Tether Manacost Increament & Overload distribu What are you talking about?A stun that does too many things should not cost 40,much like 140!! 40-70 is the least nerf. But I wouldn't recommend rushing numerical suggestions yet.... __________________ Rebalance techies' hit attack Allow abaddon and other heroes to use soul ringNEW!