[INT-SCRG] Orphideus, the Corrupted Sage

[NoThlnG]

Corrupted Sage
Orphideus




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MoveStopHold PositionAttack
PatrolAttribute BonusEvadeHero Abilities
Mind DistortionUnholy FlameMind ReadSummon Shadow Demon

• Information
• Advance Statistics
• Changelog
• Credits

Hero Information


Orphideus, once a sage of great renown, has succumbed to his power’s dark side and betrayed everything he once held dear. As an ancient sage, he can have the element of fire do his biddings, symbolically representing his desire to kill. His foe suffers not only from being burned through the pillars of hell but also from the mental anguish that he can inflict. With his powers that seem to have come from the abyss, Orphideus can summon a horrible demon that he can even hardly control; the vile creature writhing in anger for the insolence. Avoiding conflicts with the Corrupted Sage is advisable; those who wouldn’t heed this warning can consider themselves destroyed.

Changelog

• 06-08-2010
  • First Posted

Credits

• ParaDise.- & PubLicEneMy#1 - Background Story

Mind DistortionAbility Type: Active
Targeting Type: Unit Target
Ability Hotkey : D



Notes:

• Damage Type : Direct hp removal
• This damage is not lethal
• The hp removed will return if the unit didn't takes more than the hp lost by this skill.

Unholy FlameAbility Type: Active
Targeting Type: Area Target
Ability Hotkey : F



Notes:

• Minimum damage is at 100% hp and maximum damage is dealt at 50% hp or lower.

Mind ReadAbility Type: Passive
Targeting Type: N/A
Ability Hotkey : R



Notes:

• Learn Evade as Subskill

EvadeAbility Type: Active
Targeting Type: Instant
Ability Hotkey : E



Notes:

• Doesn't interrupt the ultimate.
• Doesn't hide yourself. You can still move and act freely even when you're invulnerable.

Summon Shadow DemonAbility Type: Active
Targeting Type: Instant
Ability Hotkey : W



Notes:

• Every time Shadow Demon or Orphideus gets damage, Orphideus will lose additional 10 + 5% of max mana which can proc every 1 second maximum (counted separately)
• Orphideus is uncontrollable during the duration
• Shadow Demon can't move 2000 range from Orphideus
• Shadow Demon is move at max speed and unable to be slowed
• Shadow Demon is magic Immune
• Shadow Demon details :
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  Skills:

  
  
  Curse of DemonAbility Type: Passive
  Targeting Type: N/A
  Ability Hotkey : N/A
  
  
  
  Notes:

  • Amplifies both physical and magical attack.

  
  Shadow FrenzyAbility Type: Passive
  Targeting Type: N/A
  Ability Hotkey : N/A
  
  
  
  Notes:

  • Stack with other bonuses.

  
  Unsummon Shadow DemonAbility Type: Active
  Targeting Type: Instant
  Ability Hotkey : W
  
  
  
  Notes:

  • Has 1 second delay.

  
  
  

[Shadow Fury]

First is imba, nerf plz!

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by The Lord God

First is imba, nerf plz!

Well, it is temporary removal which means the hp will be backed after some duration. Though I nerfed a bit

[Punj,Love Hater]

Ok u included Susanoo,Amartesu,Mangekyu Sharingan. Then why didnt u add Genjutsu? I guess add Genjutsu in mangekyu.

[Shadow Fury]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Well, it is temporary removal which means the hp will be backed after some duration. Though I nerfed a bit

The duration requires nerfing. Make it 8 or 9, because 12 seconds is easily one hero picked off in a team battle. And the CD is 20.

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by Punj,Love Hater

Ok u included Susanoo,Amartesu,Mangekyu Sharingan. Then why didnt u add Genjutsu? I guess add Genjutsu in mangekyu.

Mind Distortion => Genjutsu (gives impression on enemies if they really lost their hp => hallucination isn't it?)

Mind Read => Sharingan

Originally Posted by The Lord God

The duration requires nerfing. Make it 8 or 9, because 12 seconds is easily one hero picked off in a team battle. And the CD is 20.

Hmm.... Ok, 8-9 second is ok enough for the purpose

[ChaoS_ThronE]

Let me CnC...

Hero - Incomplete Story and etc? Stats is fine, but you can nerf the INT rate
Oh yeah, the name suits more to a female character (-dia thingy)
Orphideus/Orphedeus is better

Mind Distortion - like TLG said, this is imba. You can remove almost 500++ HP to a normal (1500 around) heroes, let's not talk about tanks, leaving only 1000+ HP, buy dagon, use your Unholy Flames, and GG
What i want to say is. Remove current HP instead of Max. Even it only removes for 8 seconds. Yes i know the damage is not lethal, but what if an enemy with 500/1500 HP Distorted? 1/1000 right? and then a creep hits or you can just dagon...
Balancing the percentage will be good
Correct me if i am wrong

Unholy Flames - Like a Ion Shell based dps + Light Strike Array, or it is like wc3 kael skill. Very typical.

Mind Distortion - Like Puck's? The duration is shorter, and it can be triggered passively.

Summon Shadow Demon - Fix The name, are you summoning Eredar? Yes the Shadow demon is strong, but it relies on your mana (which is more like a Mana Shield). You can only survive for 20 second at max to keep it active, not counting the mana you remove if the demon is damaged. Include the ratio of mana loss please? 1:1?

The Shadow demon's status, is rather weak, and please state it's normal AS
90-100 damage at late game is absolutely nothing, Warlock's better. You might want to increase it
The Frenzy and Amplify is ok and balanced enough

But why the sage is uncontrollable, does he stays channelling and cannot be clicked? Or just he can't be ordered to do actions?

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by ChaoS_ThronE

Let me CnC...

Hero - Incomplete Story and etc? Stats is fine, but you can nerf the INT rate
Oh yeah, the name suits more to a female character (-dia thingy)
Orphideus/Orphedeus is better

Hmm... Agree. Changed. Except, his INT rate intentionally made high for ultimate

Originally Posted by ChaoS_ThronE

Mind Distortion - like TLG said, this is imba. You can remove almost 500++ HP to a normal (1500 around) heroes, let's not talk about tanks, leaving only 1000+ HP, buy dagon, use your Unholy Flames, and GG
What i want to say is. Remove current HP instead of Max. Even it only removes for 8 seconds. Yes i know the damage is not lethal, but what if an enemy with 500/1500 HP Distorted? 1/1000 right? and then a creep hits or you can just dagon...
Balancing the percentage will be good
Correct me if i am wrong

No you're right. Hm... I want to keep the max hp part. Even 500 => 1, with current changes (25%) it'll needs 2000 hp so 499 damage at 2000 hp is ok IMO

Originally Posted by ChaoS_ThronE

Unholy Flames - Like a Ion Shell based dps + Light Strike Array, or it is like wc3 kael skill. Very typical.

Except the fact that it deals variable damage

Originally Posted by ChaoS_ThronE

Mind Distortion - Like Puck's? The duration is shorter, and it can be triggered passively.

Not really. Puck's can be activated any time. While the active is can be used only in 3 seconds after the enemy cast spell. I hope you know what I mean

Originally Posted by ChaoS_ThronE

Summon Shadow Demon - Fix The name, are you summoning Eredar? Yes the Shadow demon is strong, but it relies on your mana (which is more like a Mana Shield). You can only survive for 20 second at max to keep it active, not counting the mana you remove if the demon is damaged. Include the ratio of mana loss please? 1:1?

The Shadow demon's status, is rather weak, and please state it's normal AS
90-100 damage at late game is absolutely nothing, Warlock's better. You might want to increase it
The Frenzy and Amplify is ok and balanced enough

But why the sage is uncontrollable, does he stays channelling and cannot be clicked? Or just he can't be ordered to do actions?

Well, I'll fix the name later but I think the one who needs change is Eredar not this.

Sage is uncontrollable. You can't order anything from him except order to Unsummon the Demon.

Oh, and buffed the Shadow Demon. For AS, I don't have fixed value but I estimate it would be about Balanar at higher lvl.

[Punj,Love Hater]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Mind Distortion => Genjutsu (gives impression on enemies if they really lost their hp => hallucination isn't it?)

Mind Read => Sharingan

ok i see! Will be reviewing it later!

[Nightlynx]

omg.

The. Model. Is. Imba.

[NoThlnG]

Added the BG Story. Credits to ParaDise.- & PubLicEneMy#1

[AbyssPetra]

think this fits the Demon

[JJE92]

Awesome model
Theme is kind of the typical "dark" theme, make him sound more like the sage that he is, try to improvise a bit.

Skill 1 has a really good concept, but is hell of overpowered. This means basically a certain death in most cases if the targeted enemy has less than about 35% of his HP. Honestly, make it current HP, it's still powerful, but way more balanced. It's risky, but rewarding if cast when the enemy has still high HP, less rewarding but more safe if cast when the enemy has relatively low HP. Sounds fair, doesn't it.

Skill 2 is kind of like Firestorm with a different damage mechanism. Not the most original skill, but okay. Could be improved.

Skill 3 is not yet completely clear to me. Is this a chance? Is this auto-activateable, but also manually activateable like Puck's skill? Or only a passive chance that activates once in a while? What about the subskill, I don't really see the connection atm? I'm confused atm.

I recognise your ult, it's nearly the same as the one you used in one of your CtH entries I had to judge, only some differences in the summon's skills
I must say, I do like the skill, but not for this hero. At your entry, it was so much more fitting than here. This hero channeling will be much more lame than your entry. This procentual mana degeneration is much more weakening for this hero than for your entry, because you have no skill to gain mana in some way.
The summon is uncontrollable, so you'll just stand there doing nothing. Which enemy will this summon attack? Randomly? Would be lame.
The damage output is sub-par, the only real power of this skill is to make you immune to damage.

Gameplay: Some interesting aspects, like the combo of the first two skills, but the rest is a bit incoherent. The core concept of the gameplay could need clarification.