Spirit Lance

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 02:32 PM

Do you remember the old Spirit Lance animation where Lancer actually threw a REAL lance and not something that looks just as OD's Arcane Orb?
I think this animation fit Lancer's theme much better.

Screen: (Thanks to Dead Vigilante; I couldnt get one myself as old versions are unplayable now)

Therefore my suggestion is to restore the old Visuals of Spirit Lancer, however, with a small addition.

I suppose you know the greenish clouds that enemies are surrounded by after being hit by Spirit Lance. Here's a screen:

The additional suggestion is to add these clouds to the Lance itself, so every Lance (also these thrown by images) leave a trail of green clouds behind them. I can imagine this would look really kickass.

Pros:
-Fits the theme better in my opinion
-Doesnt collide with Arcane Orb's visual

Cons:
-No objective cons I can think of

Bovver · 09-06-2009, 02:37 PM

I don't get it..I don't know his old projectile, so you should post a pic

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealTechN9NE

Because of the new patch, I cant play older DotA versions anymore, so theres currently no possibility to provide you with screenies of the old Spirit Lance. I would appreciate it if somebody could provide me with screenshots.

Everytime I have to quote myself, I lose a little belief in man being the peak of evolution.

Zirath · 09-06-2009, 02:46 PM

How about rather than giving people backtalk, you could make a quick testmap with the projectile if you know what it looks like since some of apparently don't remember.

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 02:51 PM

I have bad mapping skills. No, wait
I have NO mapping skills. Forgot to mention that.

But according to your sig, you like making maps. So could you please make one?

HappyCat · 09-06-2009, 03:08 PM

T-up. Some might think that it's weird to throw his own spear (how is he going to get it back?) but you can also look at it as a magical apparation of his weapon. Like RK conjuring and throwing a magical hammer, for example.

Twilice · 09-06-2009, 03:13 PM

Thumbs up, I liked the old a bit.

Zirath · 09-06-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealTechN9NE

I have bad mapping skills. No, wait
I have NO mapping skills. Forgot to mention that.

But according to your sig, you like making maps. So could you please make one?

I don't remember what the projectile looked like, so you'll have to tell me.

noerK · 09-06-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealTechN9NE

Do you remember the old Spirit Lance animation where Lancer actually threw a REAL lance and not something that looks just as OD's Arcane Orb?
I think this animation fit Lancer's theme much better.

Yes i remember. It was an odd spear thrown at the enemy... it was like a "lance"- no "spirit lance" .
i like the arcane Orb. The only problem is the color imo.
The current animation in white would be nice, but i think this needs an import. Dunno if i'm right but recoloring is just possible on lightning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealTechN9NE

Therefore my suggestion is to restore the old Visuals of Spirit Lancer, however, with a small addition.

I suppose you know the greenish clouds that enemies are surrounded by after being hit by Spirit Lance. Here's a screen:

The additional suggestion is to add these clouds to the Lance itself, so every Lance (also these thrown by images) leave a trail of green clouds behind them. I can imagine this would look really kickass.

Is an attachment on an projectile possible?.. Im sure its not.
Im also sure, that it would not look kickass..... it would be the same old n odd spear but with a banish-cloud..

from me it is a t-down..

@ Topicstarter. Don't suggest such a change, when ure not able to present it well. Take some time to learn mapping-basics. This will take 2 hours MAX.

What would you say, if someone would suggest an iconchange without an icon but an icondescription how it should look like -->and the excuse, that he can't use Photoshop?! ...

qlq · 09-06-2009, 03:23 PM

Is this what you mean?

Edit: edited screenie

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 03:28 PM

Thats it, quality is not a problem. Thanks a lot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zirath

I don't remember what the projectile looked like, so you'll have to tell me.

Edited my original post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noerK

Im also sure, that it would not look kickass..... it would be the same old n odd spear but with a banish-cloud..

Would have to test it out. As I said, its supposed to leave a trail, similar to Windrunner's powershot.
I think the lance would look great with a long green tail behind it. Its not like I want it to be a static object attached to it like the Desolator orb.

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Originally Posted by noerK

What would you say, if someone would suggest an iconchange without an icon but an icondescription how it should look like -->and the excuse, that he can't use Photoshop?! ...

This is not the same. Its not like Im suggesting two completely new things, the Lance visual and the clouds are/were implemented in DotA already, its just a matter of putting them together. I provided you with Screenshots as well so you actually just have to imagine the Lance with a green trail.

qlq · 09-06-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealTechN9NE

Thats it, quality is not a problem. Thanks a lot!

Edited my original post.

Check it again. I resized it accordingly.

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 03:43 PM

Nice.

The projectile is the one used by High Elf siege weapons, amirite?

Ety · 09-06-2009, 04:56 PM

what the hell? that's not a lance, it's an arrow

Zirath · 09-06-2009, 05:01 PM

Oh, I see. How about instead you use either Huskar's Spears or the Human Assassin Spears with an attachment? I'll try to make something quickly.

thoby123 · 09-06-2009, 06:08 PM

Gods I missed that projectile so much. That 'thwack' sound they made on impact was damn awesome.
I'm sure you guys can cook up a decent-looking attachment

Henry · 09-06-2009, 06:13 PM

Is this an arrow?

TheRealTechN9NE · 09-06-2009, 06:17 PM

Its a ballista projectile.

And yes, the sound was awesome.

Henry · 09-06-2009, 06:21 PM

So I suggest that you pick Huskar's projectile animation and put an effect on it, cuz like this will fit better in my opinion.

HELLRAISER · 09-06-2009, 06:22 PM

Yes but this is a "Spirit" Lance. Not just a lance.

09-06-2009, 02:32 PM	#1
TheRealTechN9NE Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 149	Spirit Lance Do you remember the old Spirit Lance animation where Lancer actually threw a REAL lance and not something that looks just as OD's Arcane Orb? I think this animation fit Lancer's theme much better. Screen: (Thanks to Dead Vigilante; I couldnt get one myself as old versions are unplayable now) Therefore my suggestion is to restore the old Visuals of Spirit Lancer, however, with a small addition. I suppose you know the greenish clouds that enemies are surrounded by after being hit by Spirit Lance. Here's a screen: The additional suggestion is to add these clouds to the Lance itself, so every Lance (also these thrown by images) leave a trail of green clouds behind them. I can imagine this would look really kickass. Pros: -Fits the theme better in my opinion -Doesnt collide with Arcane Orb's visual Cons: -No objective cons I can think of __________________ Current suggestions: Cosmetic: -Spirit Lance visuals Balance/Remakes: Scaling Geminate Attack/\/Epicenter+Blink fix/\/Sanity's Eclipse remake/\/Nether Ward buff _____________________________________________ Don't be calling me dog cause I want you to say it backwards

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09-06-2009, 02:37 PM	#2
Bovver Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 2,249	Re: Spirit Lance I don't get it..I don't know his old projectile, so you should post a pic

09-06-2009, 02:46 PM	#4
Zirath Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wherever Posts: 1,836	Re: Spirit Lance How about rather than giving people backtalk, you could make a quick testmap with the projectile if you know what it looks like since some of apparently don't remember. __________________ While I have partially returned to the forums, I am still not making test maps. If you have a small request, you can PM and I will try to work something out, but I do not have the time to make full test maps.

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09-06-2009, 02:51 PM	#5
TheRealTechN9NE Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 149	Re: Spirit Lance I have bad mapping skills. No, wait I have NO mapping skills. Forgot to mention that. But according to your sig, you like making maps. So could you please make one? __________________ Current suggestions: Cosmetic: -Spirit Lance visuals Balance/Remakes: Scaling Geminate Attack/\/Epicenter+Blink fix/\/Sanity's Eclipse remake/\/Nether Ward buff _____________________________________________ Don't be calling me dog cause I want you to say it backwards

09-06-2009, 03:08 PM	#6
HappyCat Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,280	Re: Spirit Lance T-up. Some might think that it's weird to throw his own spear (how is he going to get it back?) but you can also look at it as a magical apparation of his weapon. Like RK conjuring and throwing a magical hammer, for example.

09-06-2009, 03:13 PM	#7
Twilice Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,592	Re: Spirit Lance Thumbs up, I liked the old a bit. __________________ If you don't know what you are doing none else will either, this includes your opponents. Use this knowledge wisely.

09-06-2009, 03:23 PM	#10
qlq Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the abyss of the unknown Posts: 2,926 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Spirit Lance Is this what you mean? Edit: edited screenie __________________ removed due to severe case of butthurt

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09-06-2009, 03:43 PM	#13
TheRealTechN9NE Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 149	Re: Spirit Lance Nice. The projectile is the one used by High Elf siege weapons, amirite? __________________ Current suggestions: Cosmetic: -Spirit Lance visuals Balance/Remakes: Scaling Geminate Attack/\/Epicenter+Blink fix/\/Sanity's Eclipse remake/\/Nether Ward buff _____________________________________________ Don't be calling me dog cause I want you to say it backwards

09-06-2009, 04:56 PM	#14
Ety Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 1,750	Re: Spirit Lance what the hell? that's not a lance, it's an arrow

09-06-2009, 05:01 PM	#15
Zirath Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wherever Posts: 1,836	Re: Spirit Lance Oh, I see. How about instead you use either Huskar's Spears or the Human Assassin Spears with an attachment? I'll try to make something quickly. __________________ While I have partially returned to the forums, I am still not making test maps. If you have a small request, you can PM and I will try to work something out, but I do not have the time to make full test maps.

09-06-2009, 06:08 PM	#16
thoby123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 913 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Spirit Lance Gods I missed that projectile so much. That 'thwack' sound they made on impact was damn awesome. I'm sure you guys can cook up a decent-looking attachment __________________ Bottle fame, brew glory- A guide to the underloved, underestimated Alchemist. Now comes in semi-Premium quality! Currently trapped in study limbo, spastic activity for now SUGGESTIONS: Give Lich jazzhands! Alchie needs a new Greed! Pit o' Malice needs more pizzaz! Flesh Golem/Tombstone makeover anyone? Upgrade Complete! Newbie-friendly commands! Make BH's Wind Walk synergise! Make Gnoll a Gnoll! IMPLEMENTED: Give Dirge some real disease!

09-06-2009, 06:13 PM	#17
Henry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 339	Re: Spirit Lance Is this an arrow?

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09-06-2009, 06:17 PM	#18
TheRealTechN9NE Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 149	Re: Spirit Lance Its a ballista projectile. And yes, the sound was awesome. __________________ Current suggestions: Cosmetic: -Spirit Lance visuals Balance/Remakes: Scaling Geminate Attack/\/Epicenter+Blink fix/\/Sanity's Eclipse remake/\/Nether Ward buff _____________________________________________ Don't be calling me dog cause I want you to say it backwards

09-06-2009, 06:21 PM	#19
Henry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 339	Re: Spirit Lance So I suggest that you pick Huskar's projectile animation and put an effect on it, cuz like this will fit better in my opinion.

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09-06-2009, 06:22 PM	#20
HELLRAISER Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,827	Re: Spirit Lance Yes but this is a "Spirit" Lance. Not just a lance. __________________ Check my Suggestions out: New Hero Suggestion: Hades, Lord of the Underworld <--- New Hero Idea: Tarvallon, The Ancient Healer Supportive item: Cross of Isis <--- Early game Item: Cape of Heroism Mid game Item: Demonic Orb Late game Item: Helphastus' Glory Click for a complete list of all my suggestions True-er words never have been spoken before!