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Old 08-19-2010, 02:24 AM   #1
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Default Akasha's overhaul


Current Akasha's skillset is:

Shadow Strike's visual remake

1.1. Rename 'Shadow Strike' to 'Dagger of Agony' or something like this (she's queen of PAIN).
1.2. Change description:
Quote:
Hurls a poisoned cursed dagger which deals moderate damage, and then deals damage over time for 15 seconds.
The poisoned cursed unit has its movement speed slowed for a short duration.
Advantages:
+ fits Queen of Pain's theme.
Disadvantages:
- No one?

2. change icon:
Advantages:
+ icon looks like skill's missile;
+ current one is already used with Viper Strike;
Disadvantages:
- icon is already used by Vengeful Spirit as ultimate. So we must find any icon to replace it... Like this:
Quote:
2.2. change Venge's ulti's icon:
Advantages:
+ icon images 2 units: 1st is nearby, 2nd some far. There are some sense of swap coz their siluets are same.
Disadvantages:
- icon is already used by Keeper of the Light's Ultimate's subskill
Totaly:
* Better to have different icons of main abilities (current Akasha's shadow strike/Viper's ulti) than icons of main/sub skills (suggested Venge's Swap and KotL's ulti's Teleport). So i prefer to switch them.


Blink's visual remake

1. Improve animation and effects - visit this topic < there is testmap with nice bats-effect on blink.

Video demonstrate one of suggested animations. Made by Lycan.


2. Suggested icons:
Quote:
* already used buy Visage's Familiars, but current one already used by Antimage. I think it will be better to have same icons akasha and familiars than same icons on heroes.
* no MSI
Quote:
(border can be fixed easely)
* MSI
* fits the skill's effect suggested before.
* this icon made by Guardian Angel.
Quote:
* MSI
* fits the skill's effect suggested before.
Quote:
* MSI
* fits the skill's effect suggested before.


Scream of Pain's visual remake

1. Change effect. Suggested remakes:

1.1. Visit this topic.


1.2. Suggested by me:
Quote:
1.2.1. Use Abilities\Spells\Other\HowlOfTerror\HowlCaster.mdl model for scream-effect (already used by Lycan's Howl).
1.2.2. Use Abilities\Spells\Human\SpellSteal\SpellStealTarget .mdl for effect on affected units (looks like small sound-boom).

You can see it in testmap (link).
2. Add sound-effect to ability. Visit this topic, there are 3 testmaps with rather sounds.
I prefer "BansheeDead.wav". This sound used when banshee (dark prophet) dies. You can hear it in my testmap (link).

3. Change icon. Here is only 1 suggested icon, coz all other i seen before was ugly.
Quote:
*MSI
**low quality, need to improve.
***current one already used by Night Stalker's "Fear" and doesn't make sense of scream or pain
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Sonic Wave's visual remake


This skill is ok and it fits her theme. But there are some possible improvements/remakes.
1.1. Rename 'Sonic Wave' to something like 'Horn of Pandemonium' (or Howl of Pandemonium). (wiki).
1.2. Change description:
Quote:
Creates a gigantic wave of sound which deals heavy damage to all units in a line.
Quote:
Akasha trumpets into a Satanic Horn, creating a massive wave of demonic voices, which ruins all in a path.
Advantages:
+ Make her skill more than just wave of sound.
+ I spend my time;
Disadvantages:
- No one?

2. change icon:
Quote:

Advantages:
+ Current icon looks like a spiral of water or something like and these are the horns (means Horn of All Demons).
+ no MSI
Disadvantages:
- not perfect for demonic horn
or
Quote:
Advantages:
+ This icon is awesome for this spell-idea.
+ no MSI
Disadvantages:
- 2nd suggested icon is used by Satanic. But here is 1st suggested as a variant.
3. Some extra effects? Just let 'Horn of Pandemonium' to kill trees!!! Will be EPIC!


What we have by all changes? Next iconsets (i place icons randomly to make them better for look):

!!!
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If someone can improve or - do it pls. It will be great.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:39 AM   #2
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Default Re: Akasha's overhaul

I only like the first change minus the name change. The second suggestion (not your original idea), conceptually, is good specially the effect but the icon is making it look bad. The third suggestion (again is not originally your idea) is just another icon which people saw in the internet or other games and decided its fitting for SoP but did not put into consideration the quality and how high dota's standards over its icons. Seriously, you should scrap the last 2 since its just being redundant to re-suggest other people's suggestion.

If you really want to help try commenting and suggesting new things in their threads.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:48 AM   #3
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T-Up.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:59 AM   #4
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Me likes it
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:09 PM   #5
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Default Re: Akasha's overhaul

i dont like the ult change, rest especially dagger is nice
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:12 PM   #6
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Best Scream icon I've seen so far, though a bit pixelated.

Don't like the other ideas though, sorry
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:17 PM   #7
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Default Re: Akasha's overhaul

I tried to create correct borders for your icon. A Blink icon change could work, but I really like the current colors of her set. I'd go with an icon (and maybe name) change for Shadow Strike (something more poison-like) and a Blink icon change. T-down for the rest.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:07 PM   #8
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Decrease the size of the animation since it's way to big and way to obvious to where she comes from and goes to. But the animation on it's own is quite good actually. But not perse needed.


Those are zubats, I like comic in general but these doesn't fit next to her scream icon you've suggested.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Akasha's overhaul

Lycan, ty for video. Did you see another test-map with imported model?

She has best escape mechanism both with antimage. So getting some obviously isn't bad at all. Anyway, it can be minimized.

Both "batz" and "scream" icons need improvements, but their concept is good. So, i'm waiting for someone who can improve them/suggest better ones.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:31 AM   #10
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I only like your Shadow Strike change. Both VS and Akasha icons look greate, representing the skilll better. Aside from that, I don't think that it's necessary to change blink or sonic wave.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:45 AM   #11
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Aside from that, I don't think that it's necessary to change blink or sonic wave.
Skills still the same as before, there are only cosmetic changes and no any necessary ones.
Are you dislike all of suggested Blink/Wave changes (icons/effects/name etc)? Or just most of them?
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:07 AM   #12
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Skills still the same as before, there are only cosmetic changes and no any necessary ones.
Are you dislike all of suggested Blink/Wave changes (icons/effects/name etc)? Or just most of them?
I'll probably go for not liking all changes. The thing is, I like blink to be more silent, stealthy. I also think that blink's icon fits partially so I basicly agree on changing, but not to the suggested icon. About sonic wave I don't think that a horn really fits, since she "throws" the wave from her hand.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:02 AM   #13
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1st Skill: A simple tooltip and icon change. I like it
T-UP

2nd Skill: OMFG I MUST SAY. THE BLINK EFFECT IS WTF IMBAZORS AWESOME LOOKING! BUT ITS A LITTLE BIT OBVIOUS. MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AND KEEP THE GARGOYLE WING ICON!

T-UP

3rd Skill: Hmm... I'd like it more if the effect and the icon was black or purple because apparently, in your suggestion, Akasha has a purple, gray, black, dark-themed icon.

T-NULL

Ultimate: I'm not loving the icons suggested too much. What I really would love is to add an effect, maybe a 2 sec silence, but clearly this isn't the time and place to be sharing my opinion about this. Back to the icons...

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Old 08-21-2010, 08:52 AM   #14
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Mah laikes al yor sugastion bat tah ultimeh loks badh..
Teh-Don on tah ultimeh, tah resd teh-ap.

Sorry just practicing a language that i have found in my psp game.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:37 AM   #15
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Default Re: Akasha's overhaul

The Shadow Strike change is genius, but it mostly stops there; not really fond of any of your other ideas.

But back to Shadow Strike, I have to say I really like the idea behind it. I have to admit I'm not exactly keen on your proposed name (Dagger of Agony sounds too typical to me and it doesn't really catch the succubus's theme).

Still, pretty good idea (the first one, not the rest).
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:45 PM   #16
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1 skill: t-up

2 skill: GREATLY T-UP

3 skill: I think animation NEED to be changed but to this which u suggest (also will be great to change current animation to attack animation cuz of it same with enchantress). t-null

Ulty: I like it. Plus i like ur idea to make extra effect to cut down trees but i prefer to cut down RANDOM trees cuz it is just unique. T-UP
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:43 PM   #17
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TUp for skill 1, that's a great idea. The rest is rather mediocre Imo.
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1st Skill: I like it!
T-UP

2nd Skill: !!! This animation rocks! I am not sure whether bats fit her theme but meh,good enough. The icon needs some fixing.

T-UP

3rd Skill: Looks cool...

T-UP

Ultimate: I will stay neutral on this

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Overall great job. Iconset is not so good yet, but this one could fit:
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:36 PM   #19
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T-up. The blink looks amazing. The scream looks amazing too but a little too white, I saw that suggestion. It was good alone, but with the black themed blink, it doesn't seem to fit. Suggested icons for Sonic Wave is horrible sadly. XD Current one is better than those.
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I'm horny <3
T-up for the effects and for these icons :
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