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Old 08-21-2010, 03:46 AM   #1
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Default Dragon Ball Z feeling in dota


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When Goku fought Freezer in planet namec he went super saiya for the first time because of anger.


In dota, there's nothing that can give the same 'awesomeness' feeling as unlocking unexpected hidden potential, such as in the case of Goku becoming a super saiya. Everything about a hero is known from the start - all their abilities and their limitation. There's no unknown hidden potential that can be unlocked due to certain circumstances.

For instance, let sven and lina be couple. If lina dies then sven gets extra juice or something like that. Though, this method is too simplistic.. better methods are needed.

I suggest Ice Frog implements something that can give the 'epic' feeling of breaking through your own limitation... I don't know how but if only there's one...............
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:00 AM   #2
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If you want unexpected hidden potential I guess you could learn to play another her? One that you would not be too competent in?

For that awesomeness you are talking about, I think you could find it in good teamwork and team clashes within a game. For that unlimited levels and power there is space for it in maps like X Hero Siege; not here.
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naaaa there are so many things you (and me) dont know

here are some things i red recently - i have a bigger list but im to lazy to search now:
try to find the thread "tipp of te day" or sth there is ahuge amount of little tips you never heard about (ok some are wrong but anyway)

Naga Song of the Siren can be used to initiate a teamfight from half the map distance -it can also be used to sleep 4 opponents in a teamfight and focus the carry that just used bkb or has linkens

Repel can be casted on a useful way on opponents to prevent certain buff or heal spells

Treant can use spells in Nature's Guise withtout being revealed

Some people tend to forget that purge removes God's Strength, Overpower and Repel


-> its more the usage of abilities wich has unexpected potential!
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Keeper of the Light is Goku - His first skill is Kamehameha and his ultimate is super saiyan form, maybe his third skill is eat sensu beans.
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Definetly he is Goku, he even has the blinding light.
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:26 AM   #6
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he also dies a lot ;\
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he also dies a lot ;\

And when he revives there's the golden aura thingy..
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What you're suggesting would have huge game impact and would be highly experimental for a long time. Since there are so many heroes and items in DotA it would be really hard to keep up with.

However, as a mode, I think that could be really cool.

P.S. I'm a DBZ nerd. Sup.
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I thought it's Frieza.

Freezer?
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I thought it's Frieza.

Freezer?
You have to understand that not all nations have the same translations..

Also consider this.. Frieza's brother is named Koola..

Frieza = Freezer??

Koola = Cooler???
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LOL you guys definitely have a point bout kotl.

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Right.. epic thread u got here
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You have to understand that not all nations have the same translations..

Also consider this.. Frieza's brother is named Koola..

Frieza = Freezer??

Koola = Cooler???
ah it's all coming back now. good old dragonball z

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Keep imagining imba things OP.....
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Ehh... no. There are many DBZ tribute wc3 maps out there, so no need for that to affect dota.

I remember this one map where if you pick ssj3 goku, you have a kamehameha that fills 3/4 your screen and it travels all the way up to the end of the map.
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Ehh... no. There are many DBZ tribute wc3 maps out there, so no need for that to affect dota.
Eh no, there's no need to put in everything DBZ in dota, but just that 'over 9000' feeling.... y'know the things like when you're in pinch and everything looks hopeless, suddenly your friend's hero died and thus your hero gets 'emotionally ignited enough' to unlock his/her hidden strength and such.
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Eh no, there's no need to put in everything DBZ in dota, but just that 'over 9000' feeling.... y'know the things like when you're in pinch and everything looks hopeless, suddenly your friend's hero died and thus your hero gets 'emotionally ignited enough' to unlock his/her hidden strength and such.
Well, we do have bloodstone that is quite similar to that. Also techies. A good suicide at the right time can wipe out their enemy team.
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Eh no, there's no need to put in everything DBZ in dota, but just that 'over 9000' feeling.... y'know the things like when you're in pinch and everything looks hopeless, suddenly your friend's hero died and thus your hero gets 'emotionally ignited enough' to unlock his/her hidden strength and such.
Which enables your red hp hero to come back and beat the 5 full hp heroes that ganked you? For the epicness?
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Which enables your red hp hero to come back and beat the 5 full hp heroes that ganked you? For the epicness?
No! That'd make just make it imba. I was thinking bout some extra ms, stats and a 'hidden' skill....

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Something like this?
It's similar but different. I'm thinking more of an in-game effect between heroes due to their relationship in their background story. Say this guy hero is the lover of that lady hero.. lady hero dies, guy hero gets soo angry, his hidden potentials get unlocked (nothing too imba.. just some extra ms, stats and hidden skill maybe)..

But again, this method is too simplistic. The main goal is to achieve that 'going above limitation' feeling due to 'certain circumstances'. Needs better methods...
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Go Play "Fight of Characters" thats probably what u referring to, there's no reason to add more hidden skills that are already appropriate as it is and adding more hidden/buff skills? t-down, no point making heroes have imba hidden skills/buffs.....

Dota as it is now, is somehow balanced(though some heroes old/new need some nerfs&buffs).DOta is meant more for competition/team/strat/tourney play than just for fun play.Theres no point giving it inappropriate hero hidden skills/buffs thus making it more like "Naruto Wars" where their skills are totally OMFGUBERIMBA and too funny to see......

I doubt that ICY would put this kind of suggestion in the trash box as he can relate it to those games that i've said.....
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Go Play "Fight of Characters" thats probably what u referring to, there's no reason to add more hidden skills that are already appropriate as it is and adding more hidden/buff skills? t-down, no point making heroes have imba hidden skills/buffs.....
I understand what you mean, but really, the hidden stuffs don't have to be imba, as I have said it can just be extra ms, stats and a hidden skill but not an imba skill. It shouldn't change the gameplay too much as I see it more like 'icing on a cake'...
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hence why my garena names have been Cell, Perfect-_-Cell, and CELLTHESLAYER!
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However, as a mode, I think that could be really cool.

P.S. I'm a DBZ nerd. Sup.
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there is a game mode like this right? flag or what.. i think it's introduced in 6.67..
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I would rather see a new hero with a passive Loyalty.
For every allied hero that dies in 600 aoe, he gets X% damage, Y% ias and Z% ims.
X= 10/20/30/40%
Y= 10/20/30/40%
Z= 0/5/10/15%
Buff lasts 5/6/7/8 seconds. Or make it a passive ulti and a bit stronger.
Buff stacks with each other and refreshes the duration.

Would work wonders with Techies because you can start every battle buffed.

At the sven/lina couple, I don't like it at all. It would just force those heroes to be picked together AND always to go together. Picks would be very limited, and this would ruin the game.
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I would rather see a new hero with a passive Loyalty.
For every allied hero that dies in 600 aoe, he gets X% damage, Y% ias and Z% ims.
X= 10/20/30/40%
Y= 10/20/30/40%
Z= 0/5/10/15%
Buff lasts 5/6/7/8 seconds. Or make it a passive ulti and a bit stronger.
Buff stacks with each other and refreshes the duration.
This was the old Omniknight's ultimate before the remake.

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This was the old Omniknight's ultimate before the remake.

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I don't remember that. When was that?
And it was probable overpowered with his 5-6 skills (AFAIK, i read somewhere that he had more then 4 skills).
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i always get this feeling when playing sven. bkb needs 6 more seconds to finish off cooldown , and ulti needs 8 ...
run , run , run , nuke , run against 4 enemies , run , run and ...
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anyone saw goku in monkey form in dota?

you know, he walks in four legs, plus he also does that kamehameha thingy. and he gets really uber powerful when his hands turns red.
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anyone saw goku in monkey form in dota?

you know, he walks in four legs, plus he also does that kamehameha thingy. and he gets really uber powerful when his hands turns red.
you're not talking about ursa , are you?
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