[TWEAK] Eclipse

kanzakill · 08-23-2010, 05:46 AM

Simple suggestion. Elune shouldn't be so stingy.

Instead of being fully dependent on Lucent Beam, make it only partly dependent.

Level 1:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to or higher than 2:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled or its level is lower than 2:	Casts Eclipse with level 2 Lucent Beam
Level 2:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to or higher than 3:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled or its level is lower than 3:	Casts Eclipse with level 3 Lucent Beam
Level 3:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to 4:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled or its level is lower than 4:	Casts Eclipse with level 4 Lucent Beam

In short:
Minimum level of Eclipse's Lucent Beam is 2/3/4. (Thanks to Lill)

Opens up new strategies and imbalance.

ItIsNight · 08-23-2010, 05:51 AM

T-up for it. It still need Lucent Beam lvl 3-4 to use ulti at 6-7 lvl more effective, but it is not so useless if luna goes for other skills.

mobus · 08-23-2010, 05:55 AM

t-up
i would personally still always max lucent first but i like having options

Averrios · 08-23-2010, 08:37 AM

Idea is good but if it is NOT lvled make the beams 1 level more retarded ...

then I will t-UP

Level 1:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to or higher than 2:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam's level is lower than 2:	Casts Eclipse with level 2 Lucent Beam
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled :	Casts Eclipse with level 1 Lucent Beam
Level 2:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to or higher than 3:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam's level is lower than 3:	Casts Eclipse with level 3 Lucent Beam
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled :	Casts Eclipse with level 2 Lucent Beam
Level 3:	If Lucent Beam's level is equal to 4:	Casts Eclipse normally
.	If Lucent Beam's level is lower than 4:	Casts Eclipse with level 4 Lucent Beam
.	If Lucent Beam is not leveled :	Casts Eclipse with level 3 Lucent Beam

kanzakill · 08-23-2010, 09:41 PM

I don't think so.
Eclipse with level 1 Lucent Beam is just too pathetic.

Thank you for your help anyway.

DracoLich · 08-24-2010, 04:22 AM

i prefer old luna w/o beams and with dmg aura =(

Wimpex · 08-24-2010, 06:55 AM

t-up

Fate Trap · 08-24-2010, 11:57 AM

T-up

kanzakill · 08-26-2010, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DracoLich

i prefer old luna w/o beams and with dmg aura =(

I don't.

RoniRizz · 08-26-2010, 12:00 PM

T-up

Shadow Fury · 08-26-2010, 12:03 PM

T-Up!

kanzakill · 08-27-2010, 05:41 AM

I have a dream that one day Elune won't be so stingy.

RedLemon · 04-01-2011, 06:21 AM

T-down, you're always trying to screw up aspects of gameplay. If we let this kind of stuff happen, DotA would be way too easy.

uo111 · 04-01-2011, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedLemon

T-down, you're always trying to screw up aspects of gameplay. If we let this kind of stuff happen, DotA would be way too easy.

Funny comment.

This is a pretty good idea. The face that her ultimate forces a skill build on her is pretty terrible currently.

Unfortunately, even with this sexy change the build is still all but required.(four levels of lucent beam that is)

I honestly much prefer it without dependence on levels at all, but this is better than nothing.

LeeDy · 04-01-2011, 06:50 AM

t-up fo sho

rageagainst · 04-01-2011, 01:15 PM

Interesting. T-up.

WaruAthena · 04-01-2011, 01:32 PM

"Elune shouldn't be stingy"
That deserves a T-Up straightaway XD
But, problem is, how do you expect all that to fit in the skill description?
T-Up, though.

FleshTRNDstone · 04-01-2011, 06:30 PM

Current forces you to upgrade Lucent Beam or suffer having no ultimate..
***
Like your suggestion, but would preferably have them sepperate, and just make it that Eclipse gains X bonus damage/effects for each level of LBeam.
So it still encourages you to go Lucent Beam early game, but places no restrictions on your choices.

Redeemed A.I. · 04-01-2011, 09:38 PM

So if I did this right:

-Eclipse is cast normally if [(level of lucent beam+1)>=(level of eclipse)]

Otherwise

-eclipse is cast with [lucent beam (level of eclipse+1)].

Yeah,early game it will be much more useful.

T-up.

rageagainst · 04-01-2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FleshTRNDstone

So it still encourages you to go Lucent Beam early game, but places no restrictions on your choices.

It already does that because you can benefit from an additional spell/damage. It only depends on your choice of leveling Lucent Beam. I think it's a good suggestion as it is.

08-23-2010, 05:51 AM	#2
ItIsNight Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Snowy Russia Posts: 582	Re: [TWEAK] Eclipse T-up for it. It still need Lucent Beam lvl 3-4 to use ulti at 6-7 lvl more effective, but it is not so useless if luna goes for other skills. __________________ Suggestions of remakes/tweaks: Skills rescales, , , , , Visual suggestions: Akasha's overhaul, Suggestions of improvements: Interface (gametime/safegold/timer)

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FleshTRNDstone Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Somewhere in known space, South-Africa Posts: 1,358 Blog Entries: 15	Re: [TWEAK] Eclipse Current forces you to upgrade Lucent Beam or suffer having no ultimate.. *** Like your suggestion, but would preferably have them sepperate, and just make it that Eclipse gains X bonus damage/effects for each level of LBeam. So it still encourages you to go Lucent Beam early game, but places no restrictions on your choices. __________________ Icarus the Phoenix (6.70 - 6.74c) Awaiting your rebirth

04-01-2011, 09:38 PM	#19
Redeemed A.I. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Greece.Μακεδονία Posts: 8,675	Re: [TWEAK] Eclipse So if I did this right: -Eclipse is cast normally if [(level of lucent beam+1)>=(level of eclipse)] Otherwise -eclipse is cast with [lucent beam (level of eclipse+1)]. Yeah,early game it will be much more useful. T-up.