[HERO REMAKE] NERUBIAN WEAVER

[naiad]

Anub'seran. The name of this creature strikes fear into all of those who have seen the Nerubians. Even the famed assassin Anub'arak is hesitant to fight this beast, which comes from the plane of the spirit world. He can swiftly walk through his enemies, bending their bodies to his will, causing pain while he strides through them. With his powers over the timeless plane, he can also step inside and throw himself into the past to keep himself from death. He can call an attack from the future to strike his foes, making his onslaught more deadly. Anub'seran. Only the fools do not fear his name.

*currently, anubseran is seriously weak(perhaps the weakest of all agi heroes, especially for mid to late game), even anubarak can easily beat him. the funniest part is the last sentence, "Only the fools do not fear his name".

some of u may feel he is fine, but many feel the same way i do. thus, i'd like to suggest some changes to make him stronger (or u can say balanced). however, the changes i'd suggest may not fit really well to his current story, so let's just ignore the story for a while.

current skills:

1. watchers
   Raises an invisible Watcher from a corpse.
   Level 1 - 2 maximum.
   Level 2 - 4 maximum.
   Level 3 - 6 maximum.
   Level 4 - 8 maximum.
   Cooldown: 20/15/10/5 seconds. Mana: 10 all lvls
   
2. sukuchi
   Causes the Nerubian Weaver to move so fast as to become invisible. Any units passed through will take damage.
   Lasts 4 seconds
   Level 1 - 90 damage.
   Level 2 - 100 damage.
   Level 3 - 110 damage.
   Level 4 - 120 damage.
   Cooldown: 13/11/9/7 seconds. Mana: 60 all lvls
   
3. geminate attack
   Occasionally the Nerubian Weaver will send out two swarms, attacking an opponent twice. You must do an ordered attack to activate this.
   Level 1 - 6 second cooldown.
   Level 2 - 5 second cooldown
   Level 3 - 4 second cooldown
   Level 4 - 2.5 second cooldown
   Orb effect.
   Passive
   
4. time lapse
   Warps time back on itself, transporting the Weaver 5 seconds into the past.
   Cooldown: 60/50/40
   Level 1: 150 mana, 60 sec cooldown.
   Level 2: 75 mana, 50 sec cooldown.
   Level 3: 0 mana, 40 sec cooldown.

new skills:

1. watchers
   no changes
   
2. sukuchi
   make the animation (blue color) when NW passes through enemies can only be seen by NW and his team, so the enemies won't know/realize it easily.
   
3. geminate attack
   Occasionally the Nerubian Weaver will send out two swarms, attacking an opponent twice. remove this: "You must do an ordered attack to activate this"..
   Level 1 - every 8 attacks
   Level 2 - every 6 attacks
   Level 3 - every 4 attacks
   Level 4 - every 2 attacks
   NOT an orb effect.
   Passive
   
4. time lapse
   manipulating time, removing the Weaver's hp and mana 5 seconds into the past (weaver's position isn't affected), causing a collision of time and space. as a results, all enemies in 500 AOE lost an amount of their time and space.
   Cooldown: 60/50/40
   Level 1: 150 mana, enemies' attack and move speed are slowed by 20% for 5 secs.
   Level 2: 100 mana, enemies' attack and move speed are slowed by 35% for 5 secs.
   Level 3: 50 mana, enemies' attack and move speed are slowed by 50% for 5 secs.

i tried the best i can to improve weaver's role for his team. hope u guys like my idea. the number may b imba, but just focus more on the concept.

[Null-]

Originally Posted by naiad

[*]geminate attack
Occasionally the Nerubian Weaver will send out two swarms, attacking an opponent twice. remove this: "You must do an ordered attack to activate this"..
Level 1 - every 8 attacks
Level 2 - every 6 attacks
Level 3 - every 4 attacks
Level 4 - every 2 attacks
NOT an orb effect.
Passive

It is lifesteal abuse...imho,no good.

[Assasin_Cross]

NO ORB EFFECT???
that will make NW so strong

[WrathoftheLamb]

Like it, not only because I would no longer have to consistantly click on my enemies, but I could also be able to escape a trap and have the health I was in when I entered that trap(Talking about the ultimate here )

Although, I see how this can be abused and overpowered. How about a 60-80% chance to do Geminite. It would allow for it to not be as abuseable and still happen enough that it would help.

But, im just thinking here

[naiad]

perhaps my idea of geminate seems to make NW too strong because of the number... try to ignore the number.

imo about having orb effect or no, doesn't make NW too strong. many heroes, even the hard carries, also don't have orb effects.

[naiad]

Originally Posted by WrathoftheLamb

Like it, not only because I would no longer have to consistantly click on my enemies, but I could also be able to escape a trap and have the health I was in when I entered that trap(Talking about the ultimate here )

Although, I see how this can be abused and overpowered. How about a 60-80% chance to do Geminite. It would allow for it to not be as abuseable and still happen enough that it would help.

But, im just thinking here

this is a good idea, but imo having chance is already too boring because many skills work like that..

[zylick]

nooo
shucuchi will be imba
passive-too
ult-too
only watchers norm

[TK.darkro90]

corruption + geminate = imba in this remake.

try use a chance there, so even it is not a orb effect, it is have chance nw

[naiad]

Originally Posted by darkro90

corruption + geminate = imba in this remake.

try use a chance there, so even it is not a orb effect, it is have chance nw

well, it is. but if u add the number to every 4 or 6 attacks or something, it would not b that imba. thus, i wan u guys to not focus on the number, but more about the concept.

if it still seems imba, perhaps make it a chance is also good.

[Francis]

I don't like your new suggestions, simply because they are too imbalanced or impractical to implement. 'Nuff said.

[InvisAkaColin]

Absolutely TD, with the ult, your basically taking all of the skill/fun out of it D:

[takayi]

T-d

Anub'seran is imo just fine as it is right now... Watchers = FREE MAPHACK (Q_Q)...

Also, these new ideas... well, not an orb effect? Imba too much? Yes.
Sorry, lad, but t-d from me.

[naiad]

nvm if u guys dun like my idea..

for u who think that my idea is bad/imba/etc but agree to buff NW, at least give a better suggestion. if u wan to T-down pls state which part is bad/imba/etc and clarify ur reason(s).

frankly, i dare to state that the current NW is not fine, NW is weak.

[EseQueL]

Wtf! Weaver is fine!
I don't like ur suggestions!
No remake needed for Weaver!
Just learn how to use him!

And i think he just need his sukuchi more damage
120 damage is low even f u spam it...
150 damage! And it will be better

[fruta]

very imba lol
if germinate is not orb-effect anymore, i'll start to learn using him.

[m1pe]

Geminate definitely OP.
Also I don't think enemies should get AS decrease from his ult (will make Weaver too powerful against enemies like Troll), MS decrease seems kinda balanced though.

[Shengar]

But the buff on enemy when you pass through them with Sukuchi is not removed right?

[naiad]

Originally Posted by esequel

Wtf! Weaver is fine!
I don't like ur suggestions!
No remake needed for Weaver!
Just learn how to use him!

And i think he just need his sukuchi more damage
120 damage is low even f u spam it...
150 damage! And it will be better

i dun think buffing sukuchi dmg will fix NW's problem..

Originally Posted by juLizen

very imba lol
if germinate is not orb-effect anymore, i'll start to learn using him.

that's a good start

Originally Posted by m1pe

Geminate definitely OP.
Also I don't think enemies should get AS decrease from his ult (will make Weaver too powerful against enemies like Troll), MS decrease seems kinda balanced though.

well, it's only for 5 secs. isn't really a deadly skill if troll uses blind on NW. the purpose is to make NW more useful because currently he has no nukes and no disables.

perhaps the slow or the duration can b reduced if it is still imba.. but hey why i have to repeat this again, again, and again....??? dun focus on the number, pls focus more on the concept...................!!!!

Originally Posted by Shengar

But the buff on enemy when you pass through them with Sukuchi is not removed right?

i suggest, it can only be seen by NW and his team... in other words, it's changed instead of removed.

[Assasin_Cross]

if NW using HoTD or Satanic + Eye of Skadi = IMBA

[naiad]

Originally Posted by Assasin_Cross

if NW using HoTD or Satanic + Eye of Skadi = IMBA

if u think geminate+orb item is imba, u should look at critical+orb item first. bellow i make a comparison to clarify it.

geminate:

1. dmg type: hero (correct me if i'm wrong)
2. total dmg when applied = 2x NW's dmg
3. time to proceed: clear

critical:

1. dmg type: pure
2. total dmg when applied = NW's dmg + (number of crits x NW's dmg)
3. time to proceed: random

if i compare geminate with critical, the only goodness of geminate is the time to proceed. however, it's not really a goodness because logically, something random is possible to proceed more in an amount of time. e.g. critical may proceed 3 times in 3 attacks, while geminate cannot.

thus, i can say:
-critical > or = geminate i suggested
-critical >>>>> current geminate

p.s. u can take any critical from skill/item and compare it to geminate